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T&B
T&B

Me
Location: London/Bristol
Member Since: 30th Aug 2003
Total posts: 607
Posted:ok going to post this in the right section now

think this is going to be a half rant half disscusion type of post

rant part:
many staffer today only seem interested in learning contact and not how to spin. This might sound stange coming for me as i generally spends most of my time with a staff rolling over one part of my body or another but I it is important to know how to spin properly a fluidly.

When you spin fire in front of people that don't know much about staff if you go straight into contact they won't have a clue how hard it is and cos it's so hard to keep in plane it just looks wobbly and generally pants. Also you have to hold the staff at some point (well maybe) and if you can't spin fluidly when you do it just makes you look like a really bad spinner.

the other thing is that spinning a staff fast is an art, it's not easy to do well, it look grate when it is done well and if you don't pratice it you'll never be able to do it.

The times I've got best responce from a crowd the burn normally goes abit like: big burn off, 1 min of just nice spinning, next min start teasing them with afew contact move, next 30sec or so do some big fat contact combs then end it with some nice fast spining and afew throws.

right thats the rant over with the disscusion part is carrying on in the same vane. what spinning moves do you like?

i'll start you off with afew

2 beat stuff: thumb end stays in front of you little fingure end behind you, this stuff is grate for looking silly (alway a good thing) eshally by doing lots of turns by shuffulling you feet round in as many tiny step as you can get away with. also twisting your self up with extra spins then staying twisted by going into 2beat spinning

carrying an extra spin over your head: bit of a hard one to explain, basicly from backward figure of 8 when the staff is behind you bring your arm over your head (so your head goes into the space between your arm and the staff) this will give you an extra beat behind you. this looks really nice when done smoothly.


ok am going to shut up now hope this has made sense.
thought and comment welcome.


Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all Ccensoredt


Fine_Rabid_Dog
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Posted:Written by: strugz

Then try contact with nice planes FRD ubbloco




Thats what I worked on this weekend. Two almost full days of nonstop spinning and I still cant get any of it looking perfect!

Bah! Total lameness!

But I've almost cracked steves (elusive B@astard that it is)... and came oh so close to the matrix. And a loverly miss Lemming showed me hoe conveyore belts work ubblove smile


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arbitrary_number_2
newbie
Location: Adelaide, SA,
Member Since: 15th Oct 2005
Total posts: 21
Posted:i reckon the best twirler is the person whose contact and twirls are more or less the same.I love seeing it when a twirlers twirls get closer and closer to their body and then without noticing it you realise that their hands arent guiding the staff anymore. spinning but still keeping contact with the body is a beautiful way to twirl. And real satisfying to do, it makes you move your body and forces you to twirl, not just the staff.


T&B
T&B

Me
Location: London/Bristol
Member Since: 30th Aug 2003
Total posts: 607
Posted:Written by: Fine_Rabid_Dog

Contact, in my eye, is becoming more and more overrated. I'm becoming less impressed by it



don't know I'd go as far as this. I still think contact stuff is some of the most impressive stuff that can be done with a staff but it's not the be all and end all of staff and looks best when combied with grate all round spinning.

Written by: mcp
I don't think people should fight over this


I do wink It'd make cheaking hop far more interesting


Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all Ccensoredt


mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:Aye, but I prefer to leave the arguments to the poi spinners. It's much more funny that way, cos I have no particular side I want to be on...

Right then, <gets into a martial stance> bring it on T&B!


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


bluecat
bluecat

geek, level 1
Location: everywhere
Member Since: 15th Dec 2002
Total posts: 5300
Posted:*ponders whether to enter debate....*

should i? should i not?

hmm,mmmmmmm.


meg? make up my mind for me, please.

ta.


Holistic Spinner (I hope)


mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:Only if you're on my side! wink

Or bored...

Or you want to use your leet capoeira skills to beat us both up.... biggrin


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


T&B
T&B

Me
Location: London/Bristol
Member Since: 30th Aug 2003
Total posts: 607
Posted:Written by: mcp

Right then, <gets into a martial stance> bring it on T&B!



why would I want to fight with you, you're only a girl, I was hoping for a proper fight not a one sided, no effort, walk over tongue


Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all Ccensoredt


bluecat
bluecat

geek, level 1
Location: everywhere
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Total posts: 5300
Posted:indeed. good that you've spotted you've no chance tim, so why bother?

R


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mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:biggrin

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


Lavatwilight
Lavatwilight

old hand
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
Member Since: 11th Aug 2004
Total posts: 834
Posted:ubblol
is all my contribution to this thread


Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars

Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film


Kyrian
Dreamer
Location: York, England
Member Since: 15th Mar 2002
Total posts: 4308
Posted:there's something wrong with 1337 spelled leet..... its like... i mean, i hate 1337... but....
its still wrong!!!!


Keep your dream alive
Dreamin is still how the strong survive

Shalom VeAhavah

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Harry_Potter
Harry_Potter

ToadStool Circus Acts
Location: Derbyshire
Member Since: 3rd Oct 2005
Total posts: 181
Posted:if its spelt right it should be 31373, Elite, or thats the nearest u can get. But doesnt all that talk annoy you. Pwn, Own, Noob, Haxor etc etc.

Yo-yoist, Staffer and 3 Ball and Club Juggling
'Its people like us, who make them feel talentless.'


mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:If it was leet, it would be written in binary. As it is, it's just l33t.

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


T&B
T&B

Me
Location: London/Bristol
Member Since: 30th Aug 2003
Total posts: 607
Posted:WTF confused confused
and I thought I as abit random????

p.s. Meg and Rob stop ganging up on me or I'll get my mum on you ubbcrying ubbcrying


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mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
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Total posts: 5276
Posted:oooooooo, poor little timmy doesn't have an older brother! You could get Psi to try and beat us up, he almost has enough hair to match the two of us. (You however, as a pushover on the hair front.)

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


-sandy-
-sandy-

old hand
Location: Bristol
Member Since: 12th Jul 2004
Total posts: 716
Posted:if we're taking sides im gonna create my own side and woop you all.... bring it ooon!
on the spinny contacty thingy i am particularly loving a new move ive robbed off rob (pardon the pun).
its that cool spin into a matrix from shoulder to oposite arm and then catch it between your legs (uberstaff 05 vid), lots of potential for weird spinning entry and twisty spinny exits. Also found if you turn a bit more and dont catch between the legs you can make it spin down your leg and catch it with your foot.
i think the main problem with most contact is its done around the shoulders and arms and if you are doing a mostly contact set it can become a little boring keeping the staff in one area of the body. getting it to travel the whole length of the body breaks up a set more and confuses people as to what the hell you just did. This is definittly something im gonna be playing with more from now on.
i know im preaching to the converted to tim and rob but meg when was the last time you used any of the lower part of your body? Hmmmm?


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strugz
strugz

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Southampton - Possibly...
Member Since: 6th Mar 2002
Total posts: 3964
Posted:Written by: -sandy-

i know im preaching to the converted to tim and rob but meg when was the last time you used any of the lower part of your body? Hmmmm?



is it just me thats reading that out of context ubblol

Great choice of words sandy ubblol

So......meg?

Id agree with the whole contact thing being dominated by the upper part of your body - however ive come to get around that by sitting down doing contact and generally squatting alot......... it kinda helps......... going up and down all the time really messes with your contact and can get the staff rolling in all sorts of unwanted and unexpected places smile

Which is usually how the most unlikley / unthought about moves are created IMO biggrin


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T&B
T&B

Me
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Member Since: 30th Aug 2003
Total posts: 607
Posted:oi you two get your dirty contact talk out of my thread spank

Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all Ccensoredt


strugz
strugz

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Southampton - Possibly...
Member Since: 6th Mar 2002
Total posts: 3964
Posted:oh yeh sorry..........

**spinny spinny spinny spin spin spin**

like a girly ballerina ubbloco


"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."


mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:legs don't have hands so everything you do with them is contact! Yay!

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


Ninja_Dave
Ninja_Dave

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Total posts: 58
Posted:i hate my legs


mcp
mcp

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Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:so do i wink

but in the words of bender: "I like yoo!"


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


bluecat
bluecat

geek, level 1
Location: everywhere
Member Since: 15th Dec 2002
Total posts: 5300
Posted:meg. get off my computer and lets do some filmage.

spank (glesgae stylee...)


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Durbs
Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 5687
Posted:Yay!
Woot!
For filmage

*looks out at dampness*

Bugger


Burner of Toast
Spinner of poi
Slacker of enormous magnitude


Kyrian
Dreamer
Location: York, England
Member Since: 15th Mar 2002
Total posts: 4308
Posted:Rob's hair is just hair, tho.....

and meg's hair is LEGENDARY.


Keep your dream alive
Dreamin is still how the strong survive

Shalom VeAhavah

New Hampshire has a point....


mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:Alright Vodka! Fuzz yer arse fer lovebites yer bampot.

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


_Clare_
_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast
Member Since: 22nd Oct 2002
Total posts: 5967
Posted:ubblol

Alcofrolics


Getting to the other side smile


Kyrian
Dreamer
Location: York, England
Member Since: 15th Mar 2002
Total posts: 4308
Posted:ubblol

go firepoise!

and I agree about the vodka... but er... is the rest of that in english??!!! umm


Keep your dream alive
Dreamin is still how the strong survive

Shalom VeAhavah

New Hampshire has a point....


Fine_Rabid_Dog
Internet Hate Machine
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Member Since: 26th May 2004
Total posts: 10530
Posted:Its english english.

biggrin


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mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:roughly translated doric, innit?

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


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