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Getting to the other side
Getting to the other side
Written by: Mr Chutney
It very much depends on the type of release-
Same direction catches (where the poi is caught so that it continues in the same direction it was released from) are practically impossible with non weighted handles, and even if you do pulll one off, nailing the timing such that you could easily drop it into a weave or butterfly pattern would be very difficult.
Moving on, 'taps backs' and 'wibbles' absolutely need some counterweight, as you are flicking the poi in the oposite direction to the way the head is flying, using the opposite ends weight to shift the momentum (wibbles are far easier to understand in person, but I'm sure you have a good idea of them already).
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Written by: Mr Chutney
OWD- I wasn't saying it wasn't possible ad infinitum, though my experience of unweighted, unknotted poi in throws is much the same as Durbs describes with his fluffy orange poi, and I've tried teaching many, many poiple various releases with untied sock poi with very limited success.
Written by: Mr Chutney
If I remeber correctly you use water filled balloons for weights- could these influence the way your poi fly as water is able to shift within the balloon in quite a unique fashion? Also, the material of sports socks is a bit more rigid, wheras the thinner 0ver-the-knee socks many hoppers use are very flimsy and will go floppy against any wind resistance.
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I don't know- I just wanted to see what other poiple thought- do the purists abhor all these throwy things many spinners now play with, or is it just another step? Does modifying the poi miss the point? Is there a point!?
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Written by: Mr Chutney
For example- could you spin one poi, outward butterfly (right hand clockwise) release it under an outstretched left arm and allow it to flyback such that it can be caught ready to fluidly repeat, potentially continuously?
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(I'm linking to one of Matt on Spherculisms videos here, though its in flash. The release he's doing is opposite to the one I'm describing (inward rather than outward- and harder imo), but the idea is the same. LINK)
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[EDIT] Just been thinking back to the vids of yours that i ahve seen (I have quite a collection actually, but albatross and technical poi stand out for this discusssion) I do see what you mean- your poi don't seem to stay realeased for very long- I guess the throws/ releases I'm talking about involve the poi bing in the air for longer (most are direct translations of club juggling throws). I see from the 'augmented 5-beat' vid how you do the stall releases- which is effectively what they are, an upward stall released at the point of stall, allowing the head to hang for just a moment in the air. Counterweighted handles don't really affect this type of release, though if anything, catchin two 1 handed might actually be more difficult if the handle were bulky.
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Yes: if you get hold of COL 2005, i do it on my clip- continuous underarm releases to same-hand catch from reverse (outward) butterfly, alternating hands.
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I'd call the move in augmented 5-beat a transfer, because at no point is the poi airborne- it simply gets placed in one hand by the other.
By release, I'm talking about the poi being released and being airborne and completely out of the hand.
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So, i'm not sure where this leaves us Dave- You're shown that more throws are possible with untied poi than certainly I was playing with, though I still think there must be something about your poi which makes it possible. Are all your poi relatively short?
Written by: Chutney
Still, whilst I am very muuh enjoying the throwy discussion, this thread has gone a little wayward- Should I take it that you think for all but very specific throw related patterns you feel that counter-weighted handles are unecessary?
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"You can't outrun Death forever.
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"Last of The Lancers"
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Definition of poi- A Hawaiian food made from the tuber of the taro that is cooked, pounded to a paste, and fermented.
Ahnold discussing poi - "It is naht a toober!"
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