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Written by: spritie
Mike, is there any way that you could give the women some form of long term birth control instead? I think the only such thing available in the states (at least that you wouldn't have to come back more than yearly to mess with) is the IUD. I may be very wrong (and please correct me if I am), but doesn't having ones tubes tied early mess with hormones and then possibly cause complications later in life?
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Also, what do you have against open adoptions since you mentioned anonymous ones specifically?
-Mike
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Written by: becci
There is no guarantee tho that adoptive parents, (however well checked out and vetted), will definately all remain together in a happy relationship, with never having any financial problems etc etc etc for the next 18years, whilst they are responsible for that child.
What do you propose doc happens to the children who have been adopted and end up in single parent households on welfare????
-Mike
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Written by: Birgit
Agree with No. 1 - would be silly to have the pill free for 13-y-olds cause you really shouldn't interfere with their hormones that early, unless there's a medical reason for it. So free condoms and mandatory sex-ed, yes of course.
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But No. 2 I just can't agree on. Some of my friends have been born to teenagers, and I can't say they are worse people for it. On the contrary, they are better friends with their mums than most. In the past, it was usual for 15-y-olds to have kids, and it is possible, even though nowadays society is structured differently, and 15-y-olds aren't adults. However, if they grow up in families they're probably more grown-up than a 24-y-old student with his head up in the clouds.
There is a difference between a 17-y-old getting pregnant in a relationship with a guy who acts responsible, and both families supporting them, and a 17-y-old party-goer with parents who don't give a damn or can't manage to help getting pregnant from one of the 10 guys she slept with that month. You can't treat them all equally.
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Finally, if a woman has 3 kids, and her rich husband suddenly decides to run off with his secretary, and it turns out she's left with nothing (happened to someone I know so it's not hypothetical), would you sterilise her because she needs social benefits now? You'd highly reduce all chances of her finding a new partner (who'd have to care for 3 kids with no chance of having his own with her one day) and coming off the social benefits.
-Mike
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A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: Doc Lightning
I think part of this system would be that that rich husband WILL pay child support or he WILL wind up in prison. The system as it is is ridiculously easy on deadbeat dads.
Written by: becci
What a wonderful idea...with which i totally agree..
except I would take it a step further to say that... even non-rich dads should have to find a way to pay what is necessary to bring up a child, if they dont earn enough then get 2 jobs, as simple as that. Just because the an ex doesn't earn much doesn't mean that the cost in raising a child (and i am talking about keeping above poverty line) goes down.
The money has to come from somewhere and I agree it should not come from tax payers money, except in some very special circumstances.
When will people start coming down heavy on dead beat dads instead of mums on welfare?
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
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Written by: Doc Lightning
It needs to be based on who has income. In the event of a separation, the cost of childcare should be based on income. If mom makes $10,000 a year and dad makes $90,000 a year then dad covers 90% of the cost.
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Written by: becci
I think you may actually be confusing two issues here.
The immunisation thing you are on about i think is the MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccination, which if I remember rightly in some reseach has been linked to autism.
-Mike
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Written by: becci
But the networking thing I think you are talking about is for chicken pox, for which there is currently no vaccine.
-Mike
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Written by: becci
I actually have had my children vaccinated. I was just stating that "some people" believe that there is a link with autism and MMR that is why they decide to not have their children vaccinated, or to opt for the seperate jabs.
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Is the chicken pox vaccine widely available in the states then? as it is not at all here. Here chicken pox is seen as one of those things that all children will probably get at some point.
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Just out of interest how much do vaccines cost in the U.S?
I think when it was in the news that people were opting to go private and pay for the MMR ones seperately they were about 50 pounds ( for some reason my computer doesn't have pound symbol) each.
Here all childhood ones are free on the NHS. (Maybe the budgeting bigwigs consider the chicken pox one to be too expensive to administer to all)
-Mike
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