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Fine_Rabid_Dog


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Posted:What ever you do, don't go taking me seriously wink



Why the hell is philosphy reserved only for poi?



"Poi is life"...... where the hell is staff in that equation? tongue



Poi gets all the "There is no move" BS... what do we get? Nowt.



S'not fair. I want to be able to terrify newbies with such confusing words of wisdom, but yet there doesn't seem to be any spiritual side to staff... Lame!



Is it because staffers are, by default, meat heads? Is it beacuse philosophy is reserved only for the wussier side of object manipulation?



Should I just shut the hell up before I get lynched?

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biggins
SILVER Member since Sep 2002

biggins

member
Location: In Bed

Total posts: 165
Posted: Written by: Mags The Jedi

So, what have we proved,



twirling staff makes you talk like swiss tony?

 Written by: Mags The Jedi

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Agnosticfaithhealer
BRONZE Member since Apr 2006

newbie
Location: Victoria, BC

Total posts: 4
Posted:Hm, I just read through this whole thread and one thing i noticed is that no-one seems to have mentioned this (and i would say this goes for poi too).

Staffs move in pre-determined motions, whose rules are laid down by the laws of physics. The flow that people always talk about is just that, moving with the motion that inertia and momentum define. Therefore, my philosophy of staff (and i've only been doing this for 6 months, so I'm JUST starting rolls) is simply this: Its my way of playing with the universe, more complicated rolls are more complicated ways of doing it. Just another example of the huge playground thats been provided for us humans.

In all honesty though, I feel the same way about music and longboarding, so as a definitive staff philosophy this might not work for everyone.


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Mynci
BRONZE Member since Apr 2005

Mynci

Macaque of all trades
Location: wombling free...

Total posts: 8737
Posted:I like what you've said agnosic bu I recon he universe revolves around the staff. IT remains fixed in space and time a WE ALL revolve around it...(just shows how much fun it is really ubblol )

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

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Chronofracture333


Chronofracture333

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Location: I am worldwide and lush

Total posts: 329
Posted:As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are moves we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some moves
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The moves we don't know
We don't know.
So get moving.

...(thanks to D Rumsfeld)


*no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no*

"Oooh, what a shiny new move!"

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Dut
SILVER Member since Mar 2002

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Location: Nashville, TN

Total posts: 380
Posted:rumsfield would completely neglect the things we think we know, but are wrong about. :P

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nearly_all_gone
SILVER Member since Aug 2004

nearly_all_gone

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Location: Southampton

Total posts: 1626
Posted: Written by: Tyr

Ignore Phenomenological it smells funny.



Funny that, it's the one one which I think actually applies. Staff - interaction. It's your relationship to the world, and how you experience and interact with it that staff can teach you about. Sometimes you can move obstacles, sometimes you just have to get your timing right. Sometimes there's something about you in the way of progress, and sometimes there just is no progress to be had in a certain area. Different objects (different staffs) can produce different effects - the short staff is phenomenologically closer to some moves than long staffs, and vice versa. Different staffers - how you relate to the Other. Not encroaching on someone else's space, and giving people the props they deserve. Other people not respecting these rules can get you bonked just as good as if you don't respect the process of acquiring knowledge, such as trying to do something before you're ready (also known as learn it THEN burn it). I can see direct relations to Husserl, Heidegger, Levinas and Sartre there.



My philosophy: Let the staff takes you where it takes you, and let it show you what it shows you but heed the first lesson: don't let it hit you in the face/nuts. Because that's not a cool thing to do.



Hmm. Good thread. I like Chumpy's "woman-based" comments. Particularly that when you first meet a woman, you have to keep her at arms length because 'she could be dangerous' ubblol Also i8beefy2's reference to 'the bad place'.. biggrin



*wanders off to attempt to make Staff his 'biatch forever'*


What a wonderful miracle if only we could look through each other's eyes for an instant.
Thoreau

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mystatrip


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Posted:So many philosophies----so little time.

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Charles
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Charles

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Posted:Staff Retention Philosphies.

1. Treat your staff with respect at all times.
2. Remember, they are all individuals and deserve individual recognition
3. Do not force them to do what you want to do, tell them where you want to go and let them lead the way.
4. And the key to staff retention...don't let go! :-)


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tim_marston


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Posted:durbs what the [censored] is UCOF?,
my staff philosophy is this
the harder you practise the better you get,
unfortunately antti seems to always do more than anyone else so dont worry about it to much.
tim


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Mr Majestik
SILVER Member since Mar 2004

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Posted: Written by: tim_marston



durbs what the censored is UCOF?







ubblol ubblol ubblol



UCOF is a member silly, see his profile heyah



(dont worry, i wondered what UCOF was when i first joined the forums too,i just didnt ask) wink



by my memory, UCOF stands for "United Chains Of Fire", but has also been used as "Ugly Cows Of France", "Uranium Chip Oxidation Factory", "Unlucky Cloud Of Feathers" and currently i believe its "UnConvincingly Overtly Funny"



*edit: quite right ms orical, he has been "Ultimate Chamopion Of Fighting" although i think thats all in his head. wink

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tim_marston


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Posted:this place is mental...............

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The Misguided Oracle
GOLD Member since Aug 2005

The Misguided Oracle

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Location: Brisvegas

Total posts: 404
Posted:and don't forget the unbeatable champion of fighting (or something like that)

"My body is a well tuned machine... It just needs a competent driver." - ?

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tim_marston


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Posted:what hes a cage fighter aswell?

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Sixth
SILVER Member since Oct 2005

Sixth

Devil May Cry
Location: Manchester / London

Total posts: 327
Posted: Written by: Charles


Staff Retention Philosphies.


2. Remember, they are all individuals and deserve individual recognition




OOOoooOooOoooo ubblove


I give hope to others but I keep none for myself.

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DeepSoulSheep
GOLD Member since Sep 2002

DeepSoulSheep

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Location: Berlin

Total posts: 2617
Posted:My staff remains still.

I move the universe around it! meditate


I live in a world of infinite possibilities.

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tim_marston


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Posted:2. Remember, they are all individuals and deserve individual recognition


you are right,i will, from now on recognise their individuality...........why didnt i think of that?


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Fine_Rabid_Dog


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Posted: Written by: tim_marston


you are right,i will, from now on recognise their individuality...........why didnt i think of that?



You haven't been smoking enough drugs?

ubbangel


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tim_marston


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Posted:cheers rabid i'll get right on it......skinning up as we speak..........................................

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Sixth
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Sixth

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Location: Manchester / London

Total posts: 327
Posted:yeah its true in a way...each staff does have its own individualness....for instance...mine likes sticking to contact moves...and shes awesome in spin offs smile I must be going insane...

I give hope to others but I keep none for myself.

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tim_marston


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Posted:i have five 3foot staffs and one four foot staff but they are all free spirits in my mind.......together we run free.

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simta
BRONZE Member since Apr 2006

simta

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Location: hastings

Total posts: 1182
Posted:i put this in another thread but its too good not to be put here aswell

"you have have a staff in your hand and you move with it"

Keep
It
Simple
Stupid(i am thats why i play with fire even though all those warning things told me not to)


"the geeks have got you" - Gayle

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tim_marston


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Posted:simta...........................very well put

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simian


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110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Location: London

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Posted:well, if you're going for simplification, then why is the movement necessary?

or the staff for that matter...

and most people round here are actually quite opposed to the whole "in your hand" part.

but there you go, staff is many things to many people, and staff is also a stick.

if i'm playing a rousing game of billiards, then i've got a stick in my hand, and i'm displaying skill and technical ability to my audience, other similarities etc.
am i doing staff?

well, no. Obviously not. But why?


"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."

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shadows_shaded
BRONZE Member since Feb 2006

newbie
Location: Central Coast, NSW

Total posts: 23
Posted:Staffs have a certain unique philosophical quality here...
they burn, therefore, they are.

Where as if you burn,
you are not.

Fear and respect it.

Philosophically speaking, they have personalities, make choices, and can act freely if they choose. Depending on the very tangible hand staff co-ordination of the user, they can commit arson and get off on user charge of stupidity.

From a surrealist perspective, these staffs have diplomatic immunity and we should fear them unquestioningly.

From a monarch totalitarian perspective, we shall continue to burn the staffs until such time as we are burned ourselves. At which point the staff shall realise that it in fact needs us possibly more than we needed it.
Based upon this philosophy, I'm grabbing a quad-strength coffee.


The voices told me to say it. No really...
Ask them.

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shadows_shaded
BRONZE Member since Feb 2006

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Location: Central Coast, NSW

Total posts: 23
Posted: Written by: simta


i put this in another thread but its too good not to be put here aswell

"you have have a staff in your hand and you move with it"

Keep
It
Simple
Stupid(i am thats why i play with fire even though all those warning things told me not to)



Sh*t. Going by my last post. I possibly should have read that first. Ah well...


The voices told me to say it. No really...
Ask them.

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simta
BRONZE Member since Apr 2006

simta

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Posted:lol

well the movement isnt necessary but if you dont move you become stagnant

and as for in your hand, it may start there but movement takes it to anywhere else it can be


simian - the reason it is not the same as if you were playing a rousing game of billiards at the the gentlemans club, is in what you have said

you are playing a game of billiards therefore because you happen to use a long thin piece of wood and display skill with it, it isnt doing staff is it


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mcp
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mcp

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Location: Edin-borrow.

Total posts: 5276
Posted:my new philosophy:

staff

my old one: staff

ubbloco


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simian


simian

110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Location: London

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Posted:so billiards is different to staff because its billiards?

hmmm, interesting...


"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."

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simta
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simta

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Location: hastings

Total posts: 1182
Posted: Written by: simian


so billiards is different to staff because its billiards?


pretty much


"the geeks have got you" - Gayle

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tim_marston


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Posted:interesting

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