Written by: quiet
psyrush: do you think that physical events can have non-physical causes?
Written by: MynciWritten by: quiet
psyrush: do you think that physical events can have non-physical causes?
I do.....all human physical events start with a mental cause.
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Written by: nearly_all_gone
I think this boils down to Free Will vs Determinism...
Written by: nearly_all_gone
Determinism doesn't accept non-physical causes, Free Will assumes it. If you don't believe in non-phsyical causes, then (I believe) you are a determinist. If you do, then I imagine you will hold Free Will. I don't think you can be a dterminist and believe in non-physical causality, but I guess that's a contraversial statement
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Written by: nearly_all_gone
Well, that's your opinion. Your opinions on compatiblism are equally contraversial to anything I've said in this thread, so I'm not sure why you're claiming that my post is presumptuous, as obviously I could level the same criticism at you.
Written by: nearly_all_gone
I think this boils down to Free Will vs Determinism...
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
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"Last of The Lancers"
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Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
What a wonderful miracle if only we could look through each other's eyes for an instant.
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"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
What a wonderful miracle if only we could look through each other's eyes for an instant.
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Written by: PsyRush
In response to nearly_all_gone's comparison of this to free will vs determinism: do you think it's possible that free will can exist in a universe that's purely physical?
Our understanding of the physical universe can be limited if we only see things in terms of Newton mechanics which make everything seem really simple and mechanistic, but we know now that things aren't that simple (even Newton himself would agree), so there might be room for free will. And then you have to ask, where does this free will come from?
And say we did, in a sense, discover the soul, and were able to quantify it. Would this make it suddenly a physical entity? Define non-physical and physical.
Personally i've seen mind effect matter many times, but hey, don't take my word for it, do some experiments for yourself. For all i know i could be completely deluded
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The mind appears to be a construct of the brain rather than some kind of descision making prosces.
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."
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