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Pasta of Muppets
Location: in the interwebs...
Member Since: 1st Sep 2004
Total posts: 2719
Posted:Now, I have been on HoP for a couple days short of a year, and it has been a very eventful year too.

I would like everyone's opinion, using the slip provided, as to why HoP is possibly the nicest bunch of peeps it has ever been anyones pleasure to encounter.

At PLAY, I got talking to a small group of the VDubbers who had ambulated over to watch the show on Saturday Night. The comments ranged from 'Ive never seen anything like it, its all so amazing', referring to the performers, to comments like 'You are all so welcoming', 'you hear about the youth of today, and how its so bad, then we meet a group like you', 'the atmosphere here is so wonderful'. I had to agree.
They also couldnt understand that we were, at base, an online community, and that the hard work of Dunc and the gang had all been put in for the community (that is, not just HoP, but the whole juggling/spinning/OM community).

hug hug hug hug hug

So, why do you think this is?


ohmygodlaserbeamspewpewpew!
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polarity
polarity

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Location: on the wrong planet
Member Since: 16th May 2005
Total posts: 1228
Posted:I think a certain kind of person gets drawn to O-M. It's not like a lot of other hobbies, like sports where there is a competitive side, and a thing where you have to wear certain things and use certain brands of equipment to fit in.

It's a performing art, so we get to be expressive, and very individual. It's not about being able to do someting someone else can't, but developing your own style, and perfecting it in your own eyes.

Part of it is about putting a smile on someone elses face. It's not something you can do on your own. Then it's only practice for showing to someone later.


Then there's the whole aesthetic side of things. Everything has to look pretty, but that can't happen unless there's something inside where it can come from. Miserable grumpy people can't make a start at this kind of thing because they'd never be happy with the small advances they make at the beginning, and never get into it. It's all about knowing there's something inside you and wanting to see it blossom.

It's not surprising everyone's into hugging in a big way. More than being visual it's an extremely kinaesthetic activity, full of rolling, fluid motions, and pressure and counter pressure. I'm guessing it goes further than hugging too.... wink

I think there are just a lot of really nice people, who have been exploited or abused by the rest of society because they are so nice. We've become very shy and withdrawn, up until the point we find out that everyone else here is the same in some way, and then we just go kind of crazy from wanting to go and be nice to people who will accept it.

One of my strongest beliefs is that I get the most pleasure out of life from making other people happy. It's just difficult finding people who won't take advantage of that, and avoiding those who will take offence that I decide to be nice to people who don't take advantage.


It's nice knowing that you can trust people to the point where you can drop your trousers and run around in front of them, after knowing them for just 2 days. That doesn't mean I'm making a habit of it though wink


You aren't thinking or really existing unless you're willing to risk even your own sanity in the judgment of your existence.

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Mint Sauce
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Location: Lancs England
Member Since: 7th Sep 2003
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Posted:this is a bit offtopic

Written by: polarity


Part of it is about putting a smile on someone elses face. It's not something you can do on your own. Then it's only practice for showing to someone later.

Then there's the whole aesthetic side of things. Everything has to look pretty,



i think i spin for purly selfish reasons i spin cos it feels good i love the feeling of the poui ilove the feeling of finding somthing new. i very rarly spinn in front of people. not many people outside of hop can say they have seen me spinn and not a lot of hoppers have seen me spin in person redface


before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)

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Durbs
Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 5688
Posted:Hmmm

~ I don't think it's because we're all OM of some sort or other.
~ I don't think it's because people post personal stuff here so to some degree we're all "known" before we meet
~ I certainly don't think OM attracts a certain type of person

It's actually hard to judge - for me especially the whole OM community is a complete escape from my everyday life. Regardless of what percentage of my time is taken up with OM, it's still just a part of it, there are so many other aspects to what I do with my time.
I know personally, at a spin-meet, I undergo some small character change (Much as Mr Sauce was saying) - I'm more open, more friendly, more extroverted, more relaxed...
I don't think of this as "coming out of my shell" (although to some degree I guess it could be) - It's just that as OM is actually quite seperate from the rest of my life, I can go there and (could) be completely different to how I would be normally.
If this is the case (which for me I think it is) - then I wouldn't chose to be rude, closed, arrogant, inconsiderate etc. I would chose to be more open. I can approach people I've never met before, talk to them, play with them, hug them - and if they don't like me, I don't like them, we don't click, we don't meet again - Who cares?

So my personal 2 cents are it's a form of escapism - and no-one in their right mind would chose to be anti-social, especially when it comes to meeting new people for the first time.

The tricky thing is then trying to intergrate all these different aspects of my life together.
(E.g. bringing my girlfriend of 7 years to a spin meet - which I've tried, but I do think it would be VERY weird)


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mykrme
mykrme

burning from inside
Location: anywhere but here
Member Since: 13th May 2005
Total posts: 165
Posted:Written by: Mint Sauce

being around hoppers dose something strange to me in normal life I am totally totally shy and do things for myself without at least a good 30 min preparation and if it involves meeting others I dont know I'm even worse (shamed to admit I even didnt turn up for a job once cos I was to scared)


I'm also very shy, in real life...but when I have poi in my hands...I'm a different person biggrin well, very different wink

and yes, polarity , it's about showing it all to others and making them happy....when they accept it. smile

greets to all of you, by the way, you're great! ubbrollsmile


that's YOUR opinion...

from fire were born, to fire we return...

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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:" use certain brands of equipment to fit in." - Thinks about gettng some Nike poi. biggrin



"One of my strongest beliefs is that I get the most pleasure out of life from making other people happy. It's just difficult finding people who won't take advantage of that, and avoiding those who will take offence that I decide to be nice to people who don't take advantage" - You are so spot on there. ts the problem for lots of poeple on here I think- finding others who wont take advantage of your nicety and goodwill. You are a dude, and I hope to talk to you more in the future. I also have neglected to mention that I missed you being naked frown


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Superman
Superman

member
Location: Houston, Texas
Member Since: 13th Mar 2001
Total posts: 829
Posted:i hate all you people,,,,

wink


Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear--not absence of fear.


- Mark Twain

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jo_rhymes
jo_rhymes

Momma Bear
Location: Telford, Shrops
Member Since: 10th Apr 2005
Total posts: 4525
Posted:hug well, to be honest, i'm a nice gal 8 times out of 10..well i try. it's nice to meet people who are like minded and dont see the point in being nasty, selfish gits. Modern life is hard enough without people being mean. so lets spread that love baby! oh yeah!! like flora buttery! hug ubblove grouphug

Hoppers are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly.

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georgia-k
georgia-k

Member
Location: out to lunch
Member Since: 14th May 2005
Total posts: 22
Posted:honestly everyone on here is so nice it's ridiculous.... no proper flame wars at all! wink but seriously, this is the nicest bunch of people probably anywhere and i hope i'll meet somme of you in person soon

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newgabe
newgabe

what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
Location: Bali
Member Since: 3rd Mar 2005
Total posts: 4030
Posted:Written by: 87wt2gxq7


And the lack of anything even remotely snake-like wink





Lack of snakes !?!



Plenty of fireysnakes around...But none better than Ry's!


.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....

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newgabe
newgabe

what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
Location: Bali
Member Since: 3rd Mar 2005
Total posts: 4030
Posted:A friend said to me once "I love being around circus stuff cos it's full of strong women and centred men..."

.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....

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squarexbear
squarexbear

....of doom!
Location: Hastings, UK
Member Since: 17th Apr 2005
Total posts: 585
Posted:good thread..this is something we talk about a lot when we're spinning. we havent come up with anything concrete yet...

i think spinning just attracts a certain type of person, someone who isnt afraid to make friends and ask stupid questions, who wants to learn and improve, and who can cope with some fairly odd situations. pretty much every spinner i've met has been intelligent (i don't mean clever - i mean intelligent) and had a slightly odd sense of humour. badgers says it all.

how much that comes from you and how much you take from the poi i don't know.

i'm sad i missed play frown but definitely coming next year!


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GothFrogette
GothFrogette

grumpy poorly froggy
Location: Nuneaton
Member Since: 10th Oct 2004
Total posts: 3999
Posted:HOPpers are just the greatest people in the world.there has never been a place where i have ever felt as though i fit in..... ever. i love you guys hug hug hug hug hug

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newgabe
newgabe

what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
Location: Bali
Member Since: 3rd Mar 2005
Total posts: 4030
Posted:Um, can somebody explain the badgers to me redface

.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....

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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:ubblol

You will understand in time. biggrin

Even I dont fully understand yet. Bender and Bovril might though.. confused Have you tried asking them?


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JtJ
JtJ

Check ya later
Location: Lower Shaw Farm
Member Since: 28th Jul 2005
Total posts: 500
Posted:although you are all quite nice people, you are a bit strange (please pardon my generalisation, there are exceptions . . .;)) which is probably partly why HoP meets are so fun!

Jake the Juggler

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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:"you are a bit strange"

Firstly, strange is relative. tongue


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Skulduggery
Skulduggery

Pirate Pixie Crew Captain
Location: Wales
Member Since: 12th Aug 2004
Total posts: 8428
Posted:Jonny just admit it... We ARE strange. I think that's why we get along so well.

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fluffy napalm fairy
fluffy napalm fairy

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land
Member Since: 12th Dec 2001
Total posts: 3638
Posted:I have lots of thoughts, but they all lead back to one thing.

We love to play.

There are so many people I know who think you get too old to play, or have to play in different, controlled, cool ways. We get excited by fluff and glitter and kittens, and can lose our inhibitions and play like fools in front of each other and genuinely enjoy that grin you get when you find something new. No social constraints. Play, giggle, smile, hug (optional), chat, laugh, you can't help but be friendly (even if you're shy) and positive.

When you're that open, doing such a social thing, like Jem says - good behaviour speads (and Dunc puts it pretty well too) smile

Makes me think of what Andrea wrote somewhere ...... here

{( Incidentally I find the gushy-gushy overflowingwithkindness over-eager peaceloveharmony attitude a little irritating too. What I enjoy here is the genuine goodness in people and the way it is naturally expressed.)


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house_of_mill
house_of_mill

old hand
Location: Manchester England
Member Since: 20th Jul 2004
Total posts: 896
Posted:Pete I blamed the badgers as it wasnt me ,but i dont get what you mean Hoppers being Nice people, i find them really annoying they way they offer you things you cant refuse, like cakes and drinks and Pings, the way they spin things round beautifully to make you lose track of thought and the way they are always willing to help people out even if it puts them out of there way.

Oh wait I got it the wrong wa round its my attention span thats annoying these guys are top I never thought i'd be inviting people I've only just met into my home as a crash pad but it feels fine it feels great becuase your great yes you! And you! And you Too!


*Thats one of my favourite Nurseries over there,*

Roman, Trippie Hippie,On the way back from Play Festival

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Cantus
Cantus

Tantamount to fatuity
Location: Down the road
Member Since: 30th Jul 2001
Total posts: 15965
Posted:Written by: fluffy napalm fairy
We get excited by fluff and glitter and kittens,



ubblol


I had a point to make and it was all serious and quite clever but I've completely forgotten it.

Erm go back and read what Durbs, Dunc and polarity said. Find the best bits of those and rework it into the idea that i said it all.....

phew glad i got out of that one....


"I'll carry this....It's harder to spill a hat" - Chellybean
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Mynci
Mynci

Macaque of all trades
Location: wombling free...
Member Since: 27th Apr 2005
Total posts: 8737
Posted:Wow, what about people who don't like spinners like.... and .... oh and of course there's the .....
(think someone should put this on another forum like a bikers forum or granite eaters ubblol)


A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

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jo_rhymes
jo_rhymes

Momma Bear
Location: Telford, Shrops
Member Since: 10th Apr 2005
Total posts: 4525
Posted:oh dear, i'll put you out of your misery.
Badgers, snakes etc.......go to www.badgerbadgerbadger.com
very silly and good fun all round :P


Hoppers are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly.

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Matty_B
Matty_B

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Location: Blu's Pocket
Member Since: 16th Feb 2005
Total posts: 1314
Posted:Personally I have met some prats that spin, but they generally stay away from any socialising with the rest of us, and therefore don't really exist within the 'spinning community' I have met a a guy in cardiff that does staff, he is not very good and is likely to not get better, though he enjoys it so there is ntohing wrong with that. - I tried to invite to the local juggling club and told him about PLAY but he is not interested, and it is probably a good thing, smile

Good one on the badger badger badger front Jo, always makes me laugh when I see that offtopic


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bender
still can't believe it's not butter
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Member Since: 14th Nov 2001
Total posts: 6979
Posted:badgers and undergarments are our friends.

you must embrace them, like a smelly newspaper.


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newgabe
newgabe

what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
Location: Bali
Member Since: 3rd Mar 2005
Total posts: 4030
Posted:Badgers. I recently went out on a date with a chap who called himself Badger. He knew that spinning stuff was my hobby cos I told him and anyway we saw someone selling glowies at a stall and I said ooh er etc. When we were at my place for the cup of coffee thing he asked me what I meant by fire poi. I showed him a DVD of a Seriously Good International touring troupe's v. sexy firepoi routine which also features cheering crowd etc.



You know what he said?

Wait for it...



* Is there a point to it? *





eek



I am a HoPper so I tried to be nice, even under this degree of provocation, but needless to say that particular badger was not an impressive specimen and was soon put out with the smelly newspapers.



I prefer this one:




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Groovy_Dream
Groovy_Dream

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Member Since: 26th May 2005
Total posts: 449
Posted:I've noticed that within every subculture people are more friendly to each other than say, they would be to people on the street.

In general i think firetwirlers are the more reflective type that can see the more important things in life, like being nice.


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robnunchucks
robnunchucks

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Location: manchester uk
Member Since: 14th Jul 2004
Total posts: 363
Posted:they way i look at it is if you wanta spin you need to have someone teach you and generaly speeking people only teach people they like so everyone who learns to spin must have at least one spinner who likes them so people who are dickheads dont get taught to spin smile and so cos the first spiners were nice people only nice people become spinners if the first spinners had been dickheads there would only be dickheads spinning thats my theory anyways smile

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shen shui
shen shui

no excuses. no apologies.
Location: aotearoa
Member Since: 4th Jan 2005
Total posts: 1799
Posted:i think that when newbies come into HoP they see the vibe that is already there, and it appeals to that base instinct of love and acceptance and peacefulness that Everybody craves (whether consciously or not), and they're like, aahhhh i've come home... and they take their chance to shrug off the conditioning from society to be closed off and unfriendly to strangers and they open like a delicate little flower (aahhh i love spring), bathed in the warm glow of love that is HoP.

HoP rules. eventually everybody in the world will be a HoP love-hippie... world domination thru love... hhmmm...

maybe its just luck. (red pill or blue pill....? hmmm... (ergo, luck? psh! (taint no such thing, its all synchronicities and stuph like that...)))

bounceubbrollsmilebounce2


those that know, dont say. those that say, dont know.

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mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:I'm not.

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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BansheeCat
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Location: lost
Member Since: 29th Jul 2005
Total posts: 1247
Posted:I am not either

"God *was* my co-pilot, but then we crashed, and I had to eat him..."

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