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the happy manmember
37 posts
Location: Essex


Posted:
hey, can anyone help me?

what is an anti spin weave?

any tips on doing it?

thanks

chris

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spiralxveteran
1,376 posts
Location: London, UK


Posted:
A weave where the poi go in the wrong direction compared to your hands. So for instance a forwards AS weave has the hands doing a backwards weave motion - each hand does over-back-under instead of over-under-back.

Tips - it should sort of feel like a weird isolation ubblol And try doing it in the wall plane first and turning your body on each side.

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SassfireGOLD Member
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Posted:
sounds impossible confused

*goes away and cries*
actually no....need to think this over with a drink beerchug
might understand it eventually ubbidea

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the happy manmember
37 posts
Location: Essex


Posted:
is it doing the motions for the reverse weave with the poi spinning forwards vice versa? because i did that and it just felt like a five beat weave.

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VampyricAcidSILVER Member
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Posted:
hmmm, this sounds likea job for *i've-hurt-my-foot-and-have-a-day-off-man*!!! now, lets see if this works

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animatEdBRONZE Member
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Posted:
I'll do a break down later on, once I've woken up some...

'Tis a bit of an ass of a move to get your head round first thing...

I take it you can do other antispin things? I would suggest learning antispin flowers first, then learning other anti spin things... It'll make it easier if you have some understanding of antispin first...

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the happy manmember
37 posts
Location: Essex


Posted:
Written by: Vampyricacid


hmmm, this sounds likea job for *i've-hurt-my-foot-and-have-a-day-off-man*!!! now, lets see if this works




ubblol

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the happy manmember
37 posts
Location: Essex


Posted:
yeah i can do antispin flowers.

tell me if im wrong but anti spin is where your hands move in the opposite direction to the poi.

other than anti spin weaves and flowers what other anti spin moves can be done?

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animatEdBRONZE Member
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Posted:
in theory, EVERYTHING can be antispun. Except antispin. That would just be silly...

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the happy manmember
37 posts
Location: Essex


Posted:
hmmm lol some examples please ? smile

ps. still need help wiv the anti weave!!!

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animatEdBRONZE Member
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Posted:
I'm not the best person to ask about antispin moves... I'm guessing you've done a search?

Anyway, AntiSpin weave...

spin forwards. right arm goes under the left arm and forwards, as left arm goes backwards and slightly up, towards your body. (so you end up with arms crossed-ish). next you uncross your arms on your left side of your body. then push your right arm under left arm so that your arms are like thy were earlier, but on the other side of your body. uncross, repeat as desired.

Not easy to explain. I doubt you'll get it from this, but hey. This move took me hours of solid practicing before I got anywhere with it... It's easier to see it.

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Put Water into a cup, it becomes the cup, put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, put water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
Water can flow, or it can Crash.
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colemanSILVER Member
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Posted:
there's a tonne of discussion on antispin weaves here.

rev gives a very good explanation along with some indispensible diagrams that show poi and arm positions to guide you through.


cole. x

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the happy manmember
37 posts
Location: Essex


Posted:
thanks, is there any chance u can give me a link to a video of it?

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colemanSILVER Member
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Posted:
i don't actually have a decent video of this move i'm afraid.

i'd have a go at making one but to be honest i'm crap at it and can only do the version with inside crossovers (where the hands only transition into buzzsaw rather than back to their own sides).
and i don't have a video camera which doesn't help much either wink

whereabouts in essex do you live?


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animatEdBRONZE Member
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Posted:
Watch Oli's 'sending signals to spaceships'.

He does the AntiSpin Weave in there. (it's the bit where you watch it and think 'what the hell is going on there?)

As for tutorial vids... You're gonna have to ask someone nicely to make one...

Empty your mind. Be formless, Shapeless, like Water.
Put Water into a cup, it becomes the cup, put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, put water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
Water can flow, or it can Crash.
Be Water My Friend.


the happy manmember
37 posts
Location: Essex


Posted:
lol, im near colchester.

ltc that sounds cool ill look it up.

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the happy manmember
37 posts
Location: Essex


Posted:
oh can someone post a link to the video you suggested as i searched and cant find it. thanks c

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animatEdBRONZE Member
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Location: Bristol UK


Posted:
Try [Old link]

Didn't look too hard.. it was on the first page of the videos section!! smile

Empty your mind. Be formless, Shapeless, like Water.
Put Water into a cup, it becomes the cup, put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, put water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
Water can flow, or it can Crash.
Be Water My Friend.


RevBRONZE Member
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Posted:
I'll try and make videos next month with the new camera I'm getting..

I also find that antispin is best done isolated.. (even though my isolations are weak at best) because the isolation helps keep your hands out of the way of where the poi need to go... or at least thats my excuse at the moment.. I have no real data to back that up.. crossovers are pretty important too.. they cross at top and bottom instead of front and back.. I could get into why I think perpendicular crossovers are important.. but I'd just confuse people.. myself included..

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VampyricAcidSILVER Member
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Posted:
ooooh yay video.... yeah i tried and failed, it made my head hurt!! (oooh btw rev Fear and Loathing is finally comming out on DVD 5th september!! first time EVER on dvd in this country)

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Posted:
you should order the criterion collection 2 dvd set online.. its got all sorts of interviews and clips of hunter and what not.. its really cool.. but also really sad.. because you can see how he was struggling with suicide then in some of the interviews.. pisses me off that no one really tried to help him.. /end offtopic

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the happy manmember
37 posts
Location: Essex


Posted:
on the topic of weird weaves what is an inverse weave? (or inverted weave)

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RicheeBRONZE Member
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Location: Prague, Czech. Republic


Posted:
the happy man: Kind of a Weave with "Iversion" technique, in "inversions, insides, atomics, oh my!" thread you fill find more..

Back to topic:
Seems to me that Anti-spin Weave is different form the "Long arm Anti spin Flower" that hands do no stay in the same plane, but help the other hand to make a Quarterfoil shape on its side.
So normaly in the Anti-sin flower is one Quarterfoil shape but in Anti-spin Weave ther are two Quarterfoils and of course the hand going differnet way. They are more on the front and passing the sides.

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Dragon7GOLD Member
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625 posts
Location: Aotearoa (NZ), New Zealand


Posted:
Mine always ends up Horozontal !?! Is it ment to do that?

Nvrm /me goes back to doing it like that weavesmiley

[Nx?]BRONZE Member
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Posted:
its certainly not flat...

its a weird move man, but horisontal is not how i do it

head full of atoms, dont know whats up or down.

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RevBRONZE Member
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Posted:
it works at any angle.. that's the beauty..

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simian110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
3,149 posts
Location: London


Posted:
antispin weaves can go as flat as any other weaves, can't they? no reason why not, and i reckon mine are pretty flattish.

Here's a question: what are some examples of stuff you can do with antispin weavey things?
turning and fountainy stuff is nice
what else?

taking the crossover point to the top of the circle and doing it over your head is scary eek

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SkulduggeryGOLD Member
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Posted:
Simian don't make me spank your lil monkey butt! Anti-spin weaves are not natural and should be punished with large amounts of slaps to the buttocks!

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RevBRONZE Member
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Posted:
simian- in short.. you can do anything that you can with normal spin..

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simian110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
3,149 posts
Location: London


Posted:
Written by: The Reverend

you can do anything [with antispin] that you can with normal spin..






umm



No. That is a lie.



hmm, well maybe it's technically true.



But in practice, the movements required make some stuff really hard. i haven't managed to isolate a waistwrap stretch yet, so how the hell am i gonna antispin one?



straightarm weaves can't work with antispin, can they?



more about crossover points, thats kinda obvious but cool:

if you take the crossover point of a spin weave so it points up or down at a 45degree angle from your hands THEN: not much happens. The circles you're making get a bit higher or lower. Woo!

if you take the crossover point of an antispin weave so it points up or down at a 45degree angle from your hands THEN: the shape that the heads are making turns into from a + to an x



Written by: Skully

Anti-spin weaves are not natural and should be punished with large amounts of slaps to the buttocks!






No - they are entirely natural. But i agree that they should be indeed be punished spank

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the happy manmember
37 posts
Location: Essex


Posted:
Written by: Richee



Back to topic:
Seems to me that Anti-spin Weave is different form the "Long arm Anti spin Flower" that hands do no stay in the same plane, but help the other hand to make a Quarterfoil shape on its side.
So normaly in the Anti-sin flower is one Quarterfoil shape but in Anti-spin Weave ther are two Quarterfoils and of course the hand going differnet way. They are more on the front and passing the sides.




what is a quarterfoil shape?

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