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TheWibbler
GOLD Member since Apr 2003

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Location: New Zealand

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Posted:Wow wow wow, i just can't believe what an awsome juggler this guy is wink

http://thewjf.com/garfield2005.html
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Check those records at the bottom 8O

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flid
BRONZE Member since Aug 2002

flid

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Warwickshire

Total posts: 3136
Posted:you link has been done wrong, it should be:

http://thewjf.com/garfield2005.html
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bluecat

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Location: everywhere

Total posts: 5300
Posted:and

ubblol
ubblol
ubblol

for reasons most jugglers will know - this man is not your type, mr T, biggrin

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TheWibbler
GOLD Member since Apr 2003

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Location: New Zealand

Total posts: 920
Posted:Flid I think it's dispicable how you changed his great outfit into that silly white one wink

Yeah Rob I know, smile

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Posted:i know yo know.
and i know you know i knew you knew.

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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay

Total posts: 7330
Posted:that's what you get from banning poi from your covention sucka ubblol


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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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_Clare_
BRONZE Member since Oct 2002

_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast

Total posts: 5967
Posted:I would pay good money to see you guys doing your version of the rap vid.

I'm sure there'd be a few females willing to be music-vid ho's. shrug biggrin


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TheWibbler
GOLD Member since Apr 2003

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Location: New Zealand

Total posts: 920
Posted:haha, that would be kinda fun smile

rob i know you knew................ahem, anyway

Wasn't it this guy who we saw at ejc who did a really bad poi performance on stage?

Feel free to share this link around any juggling sites smile

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bluecat

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Posted:no.
twas thomas dietz.

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TheWibbler
GOLD Member since Apr 2003

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Location: New Zealand

Total posts: 920
Posted:OH

well i guess i'll be needing a link to his profile as well then wink

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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay

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Posted:not only has matt stuck it to garfield but the wjf have too - by politely inviting mr gatto using compliments and telling him he can come for free! ubblol

i reckon he'll turn it down but damn, i so hope he doesn't...


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they do porridge."
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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay

Total posts: 7330
Posted:cor, this juggling malarky moves fast...

gatto says...


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"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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Posted:ubblol

'screw you guys, i'd beat you hands down, if i hadn't practised for a week. so instead, pay me, and i'll come and perform and show everybody that the 'winners' aren't the best.
yours
AG'


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TheWibbler
GOLD Member since Apr 2003

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Location: New Zealand

Total posts: 920
Posted:Written by: bluecat

ubblol

'screw you guys, i'd beat you hands down, if i hadn't practised for a week. so instead, pay me, and i'll come and perform and show everybody that the 'winners' aren't the best.
yours
AG'


ubblol



ubblol ubblol ubblol

That's a bit more like it


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2bags
BRONZE Member since Apr 2004

2bags

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Location: bristol, uk

Total posts: 272
Posted:not seen the vids yet - my connection is down frown and i don't think the owner of the pc i'm using would appreciate me downloading lots of big videos, but...

kinda agree with garfield on this one (though perhaps not quite with how he expresses his feelings smile).

gatto is clearly a better technical juggler than garfield. but if gatto doesn't care about competing anymore why does he find it necessary to release a vid that would be his wjf entry if he did compete?

if you read gatto's faq he comes across as far more of a prick than garfield. and i suspect garfield's comments are made to fit in with his stage persona, whereas gatto actually seems to mean what he is saying.

i've seen bits of some of garfield's performances on video and i've seen gatto perform in person and i certainly prefer garfield as a performer.

just me thinking this, or does anyone else agree?


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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

big and good and broken
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Posted:Written by: 2bags

gatto is clearly a better technical juggler than garfield. but if gatto doesn't care about competing anymore why does he find it necessary to release a vid that would be his wjf entry if he did compete?




as far as i can tell, he did that because he has been persistently been baited by garfield prior to and following the wjf competition last year.

garfield basically just kept saying (admittedly in a pretty entertaining fashion) that gatto wouldn't enter because his claim to being the "world's greatest juggler" was false and that he couldn't back the statement/title up.

so anthony records a few of his practice sessions and easily shows that garfield is talking out of his arse.

gatto does seem a bit aloof but it is obvious that if he took the time out of his show schedule to compete, the result is pretty easy to predict...


cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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_Clare_
BRONZE Member since Oct 2002

_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast

Total posts: 5967
Posted:Wow.

Handbags at dawn.

smile


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TheWibbler
GOLD Member since Apr 2003

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Location: New Zealand

Total posts: 920
Posted:SO then, who are the most fascist jugglers around?

Cos i've met some really rude ones,

I'm thinking perhaps we could set up a juggling competition, way beyond skill or talent, where the winner is the one with the most fiercly fascist ideals, then we could make some nice awards and a little webpage to go with it. smile

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2bags
BRONZE Member since Apr 2004

2bags

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Location: bristol, uk

Total posts: 272
Posted:i think most people would agree that gatto would beat garfield in a wjf style competiton, as i said gatto is clearly a better technical juggler.



but i strongly dislike gatto's attitude. he comes across as thinking he's too great to compete in a competition with other jugglers. same thing with him not going to conventions anymore. to me it sounds like he thinks he is too good to attend such things. what's that about?



in terms of who is the best juggler out of gatto and garfield, to my mind it is clearly garfield because he is entertaining. if garfield really meant the things he says about how great his juggling is then he would just prance about on stage doing a long sequence of very difficult juggling tricks, much like gatto does. but instead, garfield comes up with lots of silly tricks and says lots of funny things making his performances very enjoyable to watch, and making me think he doesn't take his juggling quite as seriously as he'd like people to believe.



i think gatto deserves far more mockery then garfield does.



edit: after firepoise's earlier post i thought i'd just edit this and say that that's only how i see it, and add a smiley face at the end just so no one gets upset: smile.

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_Clare_
BRONZE Member since Oct 2002

_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast

Total posts: 5967
Posted:(spank steve posted too fast)



ubblol



Is this ever going to happen with staff/poi'ers?!! Hope not.



(although the vids would be funny)

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bluecat


bluecat

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Location: everywhere

Total posts: 5300
Posted:er.
the last time gatto went to a convention he couldn't move for jugglers sitting down and staring at him.
i wouldn't go if thats what i was getting.
i totally disagree with you 2bags, but don't quite have time to explain everything right now. maybe later...
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2bags
BRONZE Member since Apr 2004

2bags

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Location: bristol, uk

Total posts: 272
Posted:perhaps we can discuss this at play around a camp fire? smile

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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay

Total posts: 7330
Posted:sounds almost inevitable... ubblol

this thread is required reading for campsite juggling debate geeks smile


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"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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2bags
BRONZE Member since Apr 2004

2bags

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Location: bristol, uk

Total posts: 272
Posted:just tried to read all of your link coleman and gave up halfway through. does that mean i won't be able to take part in the campfire debate? that's not fair, it won't be a debate unless i'm there - what fun would it be if everyone was sat around the fire agreeing with each other? ubbrollsmile



p.s. for anyone interested struggler's first post about halfway down the link gives the best pro-gatto argument. i've not found a decent pro-garfield one there yet.

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pre
SILVER Member since Jul 2005

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Total posts: 161
Posted:youve never heard of jason garfield wow lol Jason garfield was the first professional juggler I heard of no offense but im laughing my brains out right now he's only the est at ball juggling you sergey igantov whos the best at rings and vova galchecnko who the besst at clubs he does some amazing things but realize hes been practicing these moves for 18 years

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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay

Total posts: 7330
Posted:i your humble opinion of course, right pre? ubblol

define 'best'.

because there is a lot of subjectives in that definition - i would say that in each of your categories (balls, rings clubs) there are many people who could be considered 'the best' gatto, dietz, lucas, ben beever, peter bone, toby walker...

imho, gatto is the best all-round technical juggler (i.e. taking into account overall technical ability with balls, clubs and rings) alive today.


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"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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Seb


Seb

Penguin of Mass Destruction and Tricky Bugger to the court of Claire the Askew
Location: Check behind you.

Total posts: 643
Posted:Golly. there are juggling celebrities.
I juggle myself- no, that isn't right. I myself juggle sounds pretentious though and saying I juggle balls or I drop clubs is almost redundant.
AnyWAY, I juggle but I hadn't come across fan followings or for that matter love/hate followings within the community before.
Point me at some decent videos? #He idly asked#


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