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Kyrian
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Posted:I hadn't even actually heard the term ginger haired used before I went there- in the US we are boring and say red. But what I missed was the apparently deragatory nature of it, and what a problem it can actually be. Talking to people, I've since learned that as a red-head in britain you expect to be abused about it all through school and in general even when you are out walking... this mystifies me, but after I started looking for it I found a lot of stories. So...

Brits, is it really that bad? Does it depend where you are?

Have any non brits seen it? Particuarly orange people might be called carrot top here, and are stereotyped to not like their hair, but... its certainly not much!

I know its essentially just another form of racism, and this one even has a gene seperating them from others, but.... how very strange! Any thoughts or explanations welcome...

Kyri ubbrollsmile


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Chickpea
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Posted:nature or nurture -
i know that i have a very quick fiery temper, and im ginger,
but i dont know if i have a fiery temper because its been impressed upon me for the last 22 years that redheads are fiery people...or because its a trait of redheads.
I do know that there are certain traits which go along with being a redhead. e.g. apparently we bleed more easily/dont clot so well, also redheads are supposed to have a higher pain threshold that non-redheads....but dont ask me for the research, theyre just things ive been told through experience of working in hopsitals and talking to old staff
so my question is nature or nurture...?


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Posted:I've had a thought today (i know shocking) on my walk to work, as i passed a little girl who had ginger hair, and was wearing glasses.

Most of the gingers i know, (not all though) wear glasses!

I wear glasses and am ginger - so that's one person! Who else on here, who is ginger wears/needs glasses/contacts?


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Chickpea
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Posted:i wear glasses. (when i can find them!)

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Kyrian
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Posted:my aunt wears contacts. but my good friend has perfect vision (curse him!) and he's ginger.
and of the two boys i went to secondary school with who were ginger, (brothers) one wore thick glasses and one had good vision.... so i don't know!


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NOn
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Posted:used to wear glasses but don't anymore..... but two friends who are ginger and don't (i think) wear glasses unless they have sneaky contact lenses.... but... i have noticed that i squint a lot in the sun and someone mentioned that this might be because of having pale eyes which take in more light, so perhaps it is much easier to damage your eyes because of genetic reasons too.... don't know about the fireyness, for me it can go both ways, depends who you talk to.... in fact i've met a few people who seem to hold the opinion that i am both firey devilish and angelic simultaneously.... so really don't know on that count. However i am also a pisces, and they are supposed to be emotional, so maybe that's the reason, nej?

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Kyrian
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Posted:Not all redheads have light eyes mind......

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Posted:this is true, maybe they are the ones that don't wear glasses.... biggrin

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Kyrian
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Posted:oooh, sneaky. i wonder if thats even true......

it could be, for all i know! (which is a very very tiny portion of the population).


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Mynci
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Posted:can I relinquish my honorary ginger title??? well have done now. see ya'll in another colour debate soon.

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Posted:i used to be a fiery red-head in my younger years, but then i seemed to have calmed down thankfully smile

plus i have light ish eyes, a strange blue-y-grey colour, and i have perfect vision.... ubbrollsmile


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Kyrian
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Posted:there we go then smile

you suck tho, just to let you know. ubbrollsmile

i'm blind as a freaking bat... light eyes, no gingeryness tho tongue

well, soe highlights, but i don't think that counts!


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Posted:funny, recently i was on the mainland and was discussing local words with a guy from melbourne nad a guy from london. weasked if they knew what minger meant and the british dude was like "yeah orright, its from ginger, like you see a brid wiv orange hair...........". (he was a funny guy) but anyway, the guy from melbourne didnt have any idea what we were on about. In tassie minger isn't about the hair colour, its a description of girls that dress like tarts(who wear supre clothes) and are total air heads.

i just thought it was funny that 1. the term minger has skipped the mainland and come straight to the second smallest state and 2. that its meaning has changed totally.


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Kyrian
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Posted:I thought minger in britain actually just meant ugly... ??

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NOn
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Posted:yeah, i thought that too... it just conviently rhymes with ginger, but the majority of people towards whom i have heard the word used are not ginger... this guy was a leetle confused methinks...

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Posted:Minger means ugly here in Britian. Well everywhere i have been it means Ugly.

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