-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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Written by: Sethis
I always thought that enlightened self interest was better than dying for a cause. Like then you can run away and do more to help your ideal? If you let them search your bag, then start up a rally to protest the invasion of privacy. I think this would be slightly better than refusing and (possibly) getting arrested/shot.
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Written by: Firepoise
I'm not sure it helps to compare the holocaust and the second world war to random bag searches.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Written by: Doc Lightning
This is a fundamental part of living in a democratic society. I find it very sad that so many can't understand it, Firepoise. I am sad that people seem to take their right to be secure in thneir person, home, and belongings for granted and that they would give it up for even a false sense of security.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
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Fact is that some people are going into crowded places with big bags full of explosives; i see no reason why there could not be a day when a bag is searched and found to contain a bomb- given that possibility, it's inevitable that some portion of the population will support bag searches.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Getting to the other side
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
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These are the reasons I disagree with the effectiveness of random searches. It seems to me to simply be something that the police are doing to reassure the public. Reassurance is fine, but it's still invasive and ineffective.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: Phellan
It would seem that perhaps these checks might *perhaps* find the odd explosive, at best. But how many news groups have smuggled faked explosives aboard planes, into goverment buildings, etc to test such defenses? You see it all the time on American TV.
Written by: Phellan
Truth is the odds of locating such an explosive are relatively low, at best it just gives individuals a sense of reassurance, that's human nature, we believe we are safe because such precautions are in place.
Written by: Phellan
The Violation of a citizens right by the goverement will never be justified, the moment it is we slide down a very slick slope. It's not because the goverment is evil or misguided -- it's because in our fear we will allow our goverements to take those rights and to make us safe, and in doing so we will be guided by fear and hate of those who make us afraid. And those emotions can never be used for good.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: onewheeldave
I'll just point out that the above quote merely contains the opinion that searches are purely for reasurance and consequently are ineffective, without giving any reason or evidence that this is the case.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
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If a driver is suspected of being drunk, he/she can be pulled over and forcibly tested for the presence of excess alcohol. This is accepted, and it is good.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: Doc Lightning
Now that we've established that they don't work unless you search EVERYONE...
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: Sethis
Hang on, does anyone have any idea how many entrances would need to be guarded to protect the subway/tube? And are they seriously going to be searching people who work there?
And even if you do tie up the entire police force with random searches, then you get huge increases in crime, and further drain on police resources.
And how simple would it be for 2 terrorists to bypass the system?
Terrorist 1 goes to the checkpoint, and looks shifty. Police pull him over, and he makes a fuss about the search. 2nd terrorist just walks past while police are busy arguing with his accomplice. And don't try to tell me that the police are stopping everyone who goes past.
Searches just don't work.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Getting to the other side
After much consideration, I find that the view is worth the asphyxiation.
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I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
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