Forums > Beginner Poi Moves > What would you call this?

Posted: 22nd Jun 2005
that's not a nwbie question - that's a lovely move and a great description



generally those are called 'pull-through wraps' - a wrap on a body part that is pulled-though to an opposing plane so that it unwraps without stopping or changing direction.



also referred to as 'fake airwraps/half hyperloops' for reasons that may or not become obvious to you later.



you can spin that move so that it stays split-time if you want to - instead of drawing your hand back before the wrap, move it upwards instead so that the wrap happens a quarter of a circle/beat later.

the wrap will last less time but it looks a bit more controlled and doesn't break up your spinning by changing the relative timing of the poi.

i like it lots



and by the way - i'm rubbish at same direction split-time reels too





cole. x

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Posted: 22nd Jun 2005
Changing the relative timing of the poi doesn't break up my spinning as I feel it. The movement is back into 3-beat weave as soon as my arms spin on the left side.
I'll try the version you mention, I need to feel the movement to fully understand it.
I hate it when my mind knows what it's supposed to be, but my body can't do the movement yet, they just work at too different speeds sometimes
The fountain for me right now is only good for very short uncontrolled backmassages, I hit myself every single time, tangle and come to a complete stop. Then I look in the book, understand completely how it's supposed to be done and proceed to fail utterly again. Endless fun

But thanks for the quick reply, now I know I can do a pull-through-wrap as well

/Dennis

Posted: 22nd Jun 2005
some people (eg. poibox) also call simply these thru-wraps, as they are sort of a class of thru wrap in a way.



you can also do them both over (wrapping on the backhand arm when doing a forward weave) or under (wrapping on the forhand arm).



they are infinitely useful for getting yourself out of situations where you have reached too far into a rotation and need a cheet to get out.



You can also use them in a plethora of ways to transition in and out of weaves into other moves. I played with them almost exclusively for months this past winter,

-v-

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Posted: 22nd Jun 2005
dont they add an extra beat to the 3 beat weave? ive been trying them out and it feels like a 5 beat weave imo.

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Posted: 22nd Jun 2005
indeed they do clb

with a normal 5bt weave, your wrists twist round each other to add an extra circle on either side.

with this move, the poi twisting around your wrist adds the extra circle.


cole. x

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

Posted: 22nd Jun 2005
Cool then ive understood them
thanx Cole

CLB

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Posted: 30th Jun 2005
as a result, these cheeky thru-wraps can be a good way of introducing people to the 5-beat weave - just slide the crossing point up a bit until your wrists cross instead of your arm and the cord, and hey presto! you now have an uncle named bob.

B
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Posted: 1st Jul 2005
this is known as a 3 beat weave variation me and my buddies call it the split weave

Posted: 21st Dec 2005

Written by: pre

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this is known as a 3 beat weave variation me and my buddies call it the split weave

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Funny. Everyone else is calling it a thru-wrap...

Meh

Posted: 22nd Dec 2005
Great bump Cantus but yea, let's get rid of this split weave thing, it only serves to complicate things and it feels more like a five beat weave variation anyway.

I found this a fairly easy thread to understand and as a result managed to nail this pattern in a matter of minutes, although my split time needs a little cleaning up. But hey! it was a nice break from torturing myself trying to work out the most frustrating move I've come across,,,,,carryovers. ( Mot's, Spinning in Paris )

I like the smaller circles inside larger circles effect this pattern makes and I'll probably end up using it as a transition into the five beat, maybe from the windmill.

Coleman, one thing I found to improve my same direction split time reels was to simply just lift them up into the windmill when they start to go strange, regain control, then drop the poi back down. Gives a nice high/low circles pattern too.