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nearly_all_gone
SILVER Member since Aug 2004

nearly_all_gone

Pooh-Bah
Location: Southampton

Total posts: 1626
Posted:So I want to make my chains a little shorter. If I just cut one of the thin bits between the balls and use that as the top of the ball chain, that's OK, right? I just don't want to break my first set.

Sorry. redface Believe me, I searched long and hard before asking such a dense question. There's probably a good reason it doesn't seem to have been asked before.


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spritie
SILVER Member since Sep 2001

spritie

Pooh-Bah
Location: Galveston, TX

Total posts: 2014
Posted:Yup, that's perfectly fine. If you were to purchase your ball chain in an actual shop (i.e. not via online) that is exactly what they would do to give you some from the massive roll of the stuff they have. This is of course assuming you have some sort of connector that then links to the ball chain.

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nearly_all_gone
SILVER Member since Aug 2004

nearly_all_gone

Pooh-Bah
Location: Southampton

Total posts: 1626
Posted:Yeah I do smile Thanks a lot, I just thought I'd better ask as there's no way I'll manage to get more before Glasto next wednesday wink

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flid
BRONZE Member since Aug 2002

flid

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Warwickshire

Total posts: 3136
Posted:I shortened a set from hop this way a few years back. Then I changed the chain completely cause ballchain sucks tongue



You just gotta be careful you close the clasp completely around the end balls, it's gotta be the more likely point to fail


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nearly_all_gone
SILVER Member since Aug 2004

nearly_all_gone

Pooh-Bah
Location: Southampton

Total posts: 1626
Posted:That's cool. I got it pretty tightly closed, which was surprising considering how hard it was to open it up.

They're swinging much nicer now, thanks guys. biggrin


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Mags The Jedi
GOLD Member since May 2004

Mags The Jedi

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Location: Cornwall, UK

Total posts: 2020
Posted:Written by: flid
Then I changed the chain completely cause ballchain sucks tongue



Except it doesn't. Ball chain rules. tongue

devil


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vanize
SILVER Member since Aug 2001

vanize

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Austin, Texas

Total posts: 3899
Posted:ballchain only sucks if you are vegan.

-v-

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Dunc
GOLD Member since Aug 2003

Dunc

playing the days away
Location: The Middle lands

Total posts: 7263
Posted:ballchain does suck....if you don't look after it or secure it properly or buy the wack non-stainless steel variety wink

Let's relight this forum ubblove

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Beth


Beth

Miss Whippy
Location: Cornwall & Oxford

Total posts: 1262
Posted:i agree, ballchain does suck goats and it breaks easily and doesnt whip catch well!

Aim high and you'll know your limits, aim low and you'll never know how high you could have climbed.

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Malcolm
SAPPHIRE Member since Nov 2003

Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP

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Posted:Please note that there is many types of ball chain. Some are very dangerous, some are great.
Also depends on what you do with it.

It is quite sad when people say general statements about ball chain when there is so many types.
eg like "All hippies are vegans" ubbrollsmile peace

See Ball chain information


"May your balls always burn"

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Valura
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

Valura

Mumma Hen
Location: Brisbane, Australia

Total posts: 6391
Posted:I love ball chain and have never had a problem with any of my ball chain from HOP

TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"

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vanize
SILVER Member since Aug 2001

vanize

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Austin, Texas

Total posts: 3899
Posted:stainless steel 15 gauge ballchain is God incarnate.

I won't spin fire with anything else. ever.


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DoktorSkell
SILVER Member since Jan 2005

DoktorSkell

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Location: Van Diemans Land

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Posted:I personally use SS oval link.

But one thing i love about spinning with ball chain is. You can feel all the weight on the end of the chain (the fire head)

With SS oval link. You can feel the weight all the way up the chain

Cable poi blow goats


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Antiworm
GOLD Member since Sep 2003

Antiworm

member
Location: Independence Oregon

Total posts: 15
Posted:i never saw that page before which Malcolm made a link to above. Now i understand completely why my NPS #15 ball chain eventually broke ( after about a year of hardcore use ). i don't remember reading any warnings that it was not appropriate for fire, but maybe those were added after i bought it. i am also a vegan ( almost ), so that may have been another part of the problem. i am very happy with the oval twist chain, it suits my needs and my large cathedral wicks very nicely.
i do miss the maneuverability of ball chain though, it was especially nice for buzzsaws ( though i have adapted to my new chains ).


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vanize
SILVER Member since Aug 2001

vanize

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Austin, Texas

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Posted:ALL chain must be inspected and occasionally replaced. even SS welded oval link can fail from heat fatigue eventually unless it is quite large size.



granted it lasts longer than ballchain, but really, it takes all of about $4-5 for a couple hundered burns to maintain your ballchain. it isn't like that should be a huge burden on anyone. If it is, the rest of your fire equipment is probably substandard too.



A year of hardcore use will fatigue your equipment in its entirety. Inspection and maintianance are not optional for fire performers!!!


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Antiworm
GOLD Member since Sep 2003

Antiworm

member
Location: Independence Oregon

Total posts: 15
Posted:No, my fire equipment is not substandard.

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PyroWill
GOLD Member since Aug 2004

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Location: Staines

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Posted:ubblol

An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind

Give a man a fish and he'll eat 4 a day hit a man with a brick and you can have all his fish and his wife

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Antiworm
GOLD Member since Sep 2003

Antiworm

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Location: Independence Oregon

Total posts: 15
Posted:But i admit that i am substandard.

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JauntyJames
SILVER Member since Dec 2004

JauntyJames

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Location: Hampshire College, MA, USA

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Posted:I beg your pardon, but what does being a vegan have to do with ballchain?

So far as I've heard, most metals have little to do with cruelty to animals.

Or am I just being dense and not getting the joke?


-James

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nearly_all_gone
SILVER Member since Aug 2004

nearly_all_gone

Pooh-Bah
Location: Southampton

Total posts: 1626
Posted:Didn't you know? They extract the metal for chains from the bodies of goats. All those cans they eat's gotta go somewhere.

It takes 4 goats to make one #13 ball.


What a wonderful miracle if only we could look through each other's eyes for an instant.
Thoreau

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Antiworm
GOLD Member since Sep 2003

Antiworm

member
Location: Independence Oregon

Total posts: 15
Posted:Written by: vanize

ballchain only sucks if you are vegan.



i never quite thought about it, but it doesn't make any sense. Does it?


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likwid
SILVER Member since Feb 2002

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Location: dallas, texas

Total posts: 53
Posted:twisted oval link is likwid's preferred chain of spinning.. lol

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