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I like Languages.

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I know what you mean. Just about all of arashi & revs posts are greek to me. Even when they are talking about stuff I know how to do

From now on, all technical posts should contain a video link or at least a disclaimer saying "video not supplied, don't bother"

"My skin is singed but it heals my heart and with glowing pride I'll wear my scars." -Davey Havok

I haven't learned any new moves in years. I pretty much got nearly everything that was possible at the time a couple of months after I started, back in 1999.I managed to get basic butterfly, reels and weaves in the first weekend, then added corkscrews and chase the sun later. I've been able to pull off a btbw badly for ages, but haven't progressed much otherwise.

A lot of it comes down to me having very bad coordination, but it's mostly just not being aware that there were so many new moves out there to try.

I've been stuck on front weaves for ages, which really isn't helpful, as it's a move that can't be held in planes like lots of others, so I'm probably pretty messy by now, although I prefer a slow tai chi style weave using as much space as possible, which just ignores planes and becomes freeform.

Hopefully I'll be able to learn a lot at Falmouth, and spend the next year or so putting it into practice. That's if I have time with all the other stuff I'm planning on doing

Now I've found HoP I'm determined to catch up, and learn at least a couple of things before Falmouth, at least getting btbw into wall plane and switching sides.

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"My skin is singed but it heals my heart and with glowing pride I'll wear my scars." -Davey Havok

wherever you go, there you are

nate - I have been spinning a lot longer than you and don't understand it either. If you feel like that - imagine how I feel

Geologists do it in the dirt................

dont worry too much Nate........ afterall its only poi

You still have your staffs



(but i know what you mean )

"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

Step (el-nombrie)

tHeReS gOoD aNd EvIl iN EaCh InDiViDuAl fIrE, iDeNtIfIeS nEeDs AnD fEeDs OuR dEsIrEs.

I said something very similar to what nate said to poibox a couple weeks ago, and he gave me a pep talk along the lines of what Mr. Chutney said.

But really Nate, you are extremely talented with poi (technically superior to myself for sure), if a little cocky...

We all suffer our down periods where we feel like we are on a never-ending plateau. But you have to travel thru that period till you body-mind interface assimilated enough to take it to the next level, which I find tend to happen suddenly when it does happen.

And you told me at Falmouth 3 that I was one of the most interesting spinners to watch that you had ever seen - which I took as a huge compliment coming from you - I was kinda shocked even when you said it. So maybe what you should address while you are on this technical plateau are things like matters of style - what did you see in my spinning that you liked, and how can you work that into your spinning, etc...

And taking a break is always a legitimate form of expression as well.

One last thing I find that helps inspire me - teaching other people poi. Especially if you can find an especially talented student and work closely with that person for a while. Their joy of learning poi rubs off, their mistakes often fuel ideas for new variations, and occasionally they even blow you away by imagining and executing something completely different that you never thought of.

-v-

Wiederstand ist Zwecklos!

nate



what chutney said was bang on



the inversions thread is classic hop new ground material - its a new area of poi that everyone currently thinks of slightly differently and that needs lots more exploration before it is in a form with a solid structure (and hence can be easily/logically taught).

the only way to understand is to read it all, try and spin the bits you think you understand slightly and ask tonnes of questions (by pm if you prefer) about what bits you don't get.

the thread you mentioned has a few connected videos and there are more that relate to it scattered around (with the exception of the atomics stuff).



in fact, in the case of that thread, it covers three areas of poi that have been barely explored by a very few people (even less that feel willing/capable of discussing it using nothing other than text and the occasional video clip).



i love what dragon said: there are massive areas of poi that are untapped that don't require lots of technical knowledge to get on with yet they remain ignored.



there's plenty around and *tonnes* of it you could think about learning.



that's what uberpoi and falmouth are for though, right?



solutions before then?



1. read what drew just said



2. read 'you can go to the ball' and do searches on anything you haven't considered fully.



3. search for all of andy's (poiboxII ) posts from the last year or so and fully explore the suggestions he gives.



4. take what you already know and make it unique to you - make variations that are the same move technically but look very different stylistically (e.g. i used to love longarm variations and mixed tempo, now i work more on full and part isolation of moves and i'm just this week playing with inverting beats again).

a new variation is often more revealing and useful than a 'new move'.





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Nate, it just peaks and troughs mate. Everyone I know has hit a plateau at least once. Sometime you feel it's a never ending learning scale, other times the inspiration is so low you can't even be bothered to pick them up.



Stop 'trying' so hard and don't think that you 'have' to find something new. As posted above a variation is easily just as satisfying, if not more so than new moves.



If you're feeling uninspired you can't force yourself to enjoy it, forget about it for a while, learn something else (not staff!! ) and then take your new knowledge back to your poi.



There's a million answers to this, all and none of them will help you out, but surely in time something will.



Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon! And for the rest of your life. And remember, there is no 'behind' to be left in buddy

Let's relight this forum

THANKS EVERYONE!! although i'm reading this a little too late because i learnt a shite load of amazingly cool poi in ireland mainly thanks to fnf!

brilliant help from everyone here and im saving this thread in my bookmarks so i can return when i need to

glass i cant wait to meet you at uberpoi......i mean it, i really cant, sooo excited

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Nate, you could always destroy every poi spinner in the world with a mega death ray, then you'd be the only, and best, or at least destry the simple ones and the imprefect ones, and just create pure races, hmmm forced breeding here i come

An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind

Give a man a fish and he'll eat 4 a day hit a man with a brick and you can have all his fish and his wife

"Will's to pretty for prison" - Simian