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chemical attraction
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Posted:
could someone please make a vid on how to do a butterfly waistwrap.i would be much obliged...thank you
could someone please make a vid on how to do a butterfly waistwrap.i would be much obliged...thank you
Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:
ok I just followed your instructions to the 'T' (/ 'btb bf ww')
I can do that. I think.
ok I just followed your instructions to the 'T' (/ 'btb bf ww')
I can do that. I think.
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Posted:
yeah - it seems only girls are good at doing this move
if you manage to get a full bf ww can you do a video extension please fluffy?
miss pink had a lovely split-time btb bf ww thing that i saw on friday that looks a lot like the 'mirrored bf ww' that arashi describes in the thread i linked to above...
ooooh, there's just so much to play with!
cole. x
yeah - it seems only girls are good at doing this move
if you manage to get a full bf ww can you do a video extension please fluffy?
miss pink had a lovely split-time btb bf ww thing that i saw on friday that looks a lot like the 'mirrored bf ww' that arashi describes in the thread i linked to above...
ooooh, there's just so much to play with!
cole. x
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Posted:
erm I don't have any camera stuff which is why that one I posted was literally a few seconds to help people - I don't have time or stuff to make a proper variations one - sorry
erm I don't have any camera stuff which is why that one I posted was literally a few seconds to help people - I don't have time or stuff to make a proper variations one - sorry
Geologists do it in the dirt................
Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:
and I can't do it in front the same way as btb yet so a full bf ww is going to take abit of work.
and I can't do it in front the same way as btb yet so a full bf ww is going to take abit of work.
Geologists do it in the dirt................
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Posted:
i forgot i could do ww ttn.
(at self)
off to try that thing you described in t'other thread.
R
i forgot i could do ww ttn.
(at self)off to try that thing you described in t'other thread.
R
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Posted:
ahaa!
yep, i can do that, i think a couple of ways(makes for strange splittimeness)
and, sorry cole, i was assuming your parents thangs as yours.
ahaa!
yep, i can do that, i think a couple of ways(makes for strange splittimeness)
and, sorry cole, i was assuming your parents thangs as yours.
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Posted:
video please mr cat - cos i know you got a camera...
cole. x
video please mr cat - cos i know you got a camera...
cole. x
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Posted:
as well as the willpower of a sheep and the spare time of a chicken without a head.
as well as the willpower of a sheep and the spare time of a chicken without a head.
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Posted:
solution:
so, next time you try simply point the camera at yourself first
good job i'm seeing you in a couple of weeks
full btb bf ww by uberpoi...?
cole. x
p.s. the new uberchallenge is underway
solution:
Written by: bluecat
yep, i can do that, i think a couple of ways(makes for strange splittimeness)
so, next time you try simply point the camera at yourself first
good job i'm seeing you in a couple of weeks
full btb bf ww by uberpoi...?
cole. x
p.s. the new uberchallenge is underway
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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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Posted:
well, i can do all three bits (the iso ww, the ww throw pirouette, and the ww throwboth to other side ww) so that should be fine
well, i can do all three bits (the iso ww, the ww throw pirouette, and the ww throwboth to other side ww) so that should be fine
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Posted:
cool - that's my two challenges (one old, one new) that you should have completely nailed by uberpoi then
i'll have to think up a better one that will take you longer to get now
btb 5bt weave into double trebla, 270 pirouette, catch in btb ww position so that the first beats are the carries.
i know that's all just poi juggling but if anyone can attempt it, its probabloy you - everyone else has got two years
cole. x
p.s. i found out last night that throwing and catching poi into and out of isolations is a lot harder than it sounds/should be...
or maybe its finally time i invested in some handle-end weights...
cool - that's my two challenges (one old, one new) that you should have completely nailed by uberpoi then
i'll have to think up a better one that will take you longer to get now
btb 5bt weave into double trebla, 270 pirouette, catch in btb ww position so that the first beats are the carries.
i know that's all just poi juggling but if anyone can attempt it, its probabloy you - everyone else has got two years
cole. x
p.s. i found out last night that throwing and catching poi into and out of isolations is a lot harder than it sounds/should be...
or maybe its finally time i invested in some handle-end weights...
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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Posted:
right.
nailed the ww pirouette to ww the other side(and to think i'm supposed to be making a video!) but it is muuuuch easier sametime than split time, so i think i'll have challenge 2 by next week.
challenge 1 i don't remember...? help?
challenge 3: 5btbtb into double trebla is ok, but the double trebla into a full pirouette is hard enough, let alone 270degrees. hmmm.(runs off to practise single treblas into pirouettes...)
are we off topic yet?
right.
nailed the ww pirouette to ww the other side(and to think i'm supposed to be making a video!) but it is muuuuch easier sametime than split time, so i think i'll have challenge 2 by next week.
challenge 1 i don't remember...? help?
challenge 3: 5btbtb into double trebla is ok, but the double trebla into a full pirouette is hard enough, let alone 270degrees. hmmm.(runs off to practise single treblas into pirouettes...)
are we off topic yet?
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Posted:
Trebla?
Que?
Trebla?
Que?
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Posted:
between the leg throw from behind-so named because a between the leg throw fro in front is called an albert, and albert reversed is trebla.
geddit?
between the leg throw from behind-so named because a between the leg throw fro in front is called an albert, and albert reversed is trebla.
geddit?
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Posted:
waaaaaay off
challenge 1 was: full (same-time) btb bf ww.
challenge 2 was: an isolated btb ww but replacing carries with a front wallplane throw to other side with a pirouette under the throws.
challenge 3 was: btb 5bt weave into double trebla, 270 pirouette, catch in btb ww position so that the first beats are the carries.
and if challenges 2 and 3 seem too easy, you can make them 'proper' ( ) by converting to split-time butterfly versions - i.e. spin exactly the same moves but with poi spinning in opposite directions.
cole. x
Written by: bluecat
are we off topic yet?
waaaaaay off
challenge 1 was: full (same-time) btb bf ww.
challenge 2 was: an isolated btb ww but replacing carries with a front wallplane throw to other side with a pirouette under the throws.
challenge 3 was: btb 5bt weave into double trebla, 270 pirouette, catch in btb ww position so that the first beats are the carries.
and if challenges 2 and 3 seem too easy, you can make them 'proper' (
) by converting to split-time butterfly versions - i.e. spin exactly the same moves but with poi spinning in opposite directions.cole. x
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they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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Posted:
but cole, full btbbfww by your definitionelsewhere must be split time. or at least thats how i understand it(and spin it, on todays evidence).
so
1: can do, split, and badly same
2: can do if poi are same time(just got it twice)but not split
3: aargh.
(what, like leftfield?)
but cole, full btbbfww by your definitionelsewhere must be split time. or at least thats how i understand it(and spin it, on todays evidence).
so
1: can do, split, and badly same
2: can do if poi are same time(just got it twice)but not split
3: aargh.
(what, like leftfield?
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Posted:
challenge 1:
lazy cat making challenges easier for himself by not reading my posts...
read the whole of the first post on the proper btb bf ww thread - i mention that the split-time version is the completely analogous version but the same-time version is the real killer.
in fact, its one of the first things i say:
i go on to say that i can do one cycle of it but that its the carries that kill my planes and prevent me from doing it repeatedly or turning with it.
if you get to the point where you can do a few cycles btb or do a full ww like this (front linked with back) i reckon you'll have it nailed.
challenge 2:
same-time?
are you doing weave or bf?
if its weave it should blatently be splitime - who does a parallel ww once they've learnt them?
challenge 3:
nah, like roots manuva
cole. x
challenge 1:
lazy cat making challenges easier for himself by not reading my posts...read the whole of the first post on the proper btb bf ww thread - i mention that the split-time version is the completely analogous version but the same-time version is the real killer.
in fact, its one of the first things i say:
Written by: coleman
if you take a standard btb waistwrap and reverse the direction that one of the poi is spinning in, you get a butterfly waistwrap.
that move, spun same-time is the killer.
i go on to say that i can do one cycle of it but that its the carries that kill my planes and prevent me from doing it repeatedly or turning with it.
if you get to the point where you can do a few cycles btb or do a full ww like this (front linked with back) i reckon you'll have it nailed.
challenge 2:
same-time?
are you doing weave or bf?
if its weave it should blatently be splitime - who does a parallel ww once they've learnt them?
challenge 3:
nah, like roots manuva
cole. x
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they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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Posted:
1. but!
same time is NOT a proper analogous bf version of the ww. if you go to same time then you are not just changing the direction of one of the poi, but also its timing. so. imo i've done 1.
2: thats why i said i couldn't do it split. i'll practise but i reckon i'm at least on the way.(oh, and 'me' is your answer; i relly like sametime ww)
3. maybe uberpoi2?
(like q-tip)
1. but!
same time is NOT a proper analogous bf version of the ww. if you go to same time then you are not just changing the direction of one of the poi, but also its timing. so. imo i've done 1.
2: thats why i said i couldn't do it split. i'll practise but i reckon i'm at least on the way.(oh, and 'me' is your answer; i relly like sametime ww)
3. maybe uberpoi2?
(like q-tip)
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Posted:
dude - read my posts!!!
then you say:
you crazy man...
1: like i said, if you change the challenge, it doesn't bloody well count!
the split-time version was never as hard as the same time and the thread i pointed you to said so.
i could do the split-time version far more intuitively back when i posted that thread - it was the same-time (butterfly-time) version that stumped me and just about every other spinner i presented it to.
just cos you can't be bothered to read it and can do what you thought you'd read more easily, doesn't mean you've completed the challenge
i could run 27 metres of the london marathon and think i'm finished because i misread the word 'miles', but it doesn't mean i get to claim first prize and a marathon certificate does it...?
you're just a big blue cheater
2: again, sorry - not the move described by the challenge.
you're just trying to rush things and claim partial uberness in the face of something you can't do yet - you'll have it one day.
3: since i'm never going to go for that stuff, all i want is to see someone spinning it one day - i'll be happy.
if you get it by uberpoi 2 (or within two years) i'll be more than happy
cole. x
dude - read my posts!!!
Written by: coleman
the split-time version is the completely analogous version but the same-time version is the real killer.
then you say:
Written by: bluecat
but!
same time is NOT a proper analogous bf version of the ww.
you crazy man...
1: like i said, if you change the challenge, it doesn't bloody well count!
the split-time version was never as hard as the same time and the thread i pointed you to said so.
i could do the split-time version far more intuitively back when i posted that thread - it was the same-time (butterfly-time) version that stumped me and just about every other spinner i presented it to.
just cos you can't be bothered to read it and can do what you thought you'd read more easily, doesn't mean you've completed the challenge
i could run 27 metres of the london marathon and think i'm finished because i misread the word 'miles', but it doesn't mean i get to claim first prize and a marathon certificate does it...?
you're just a big blue cheater
2: again, sorry - not the move described by the challenge.
you're just trying to rush things and claim partial uberness in the face of something you can't do yet - you'll have it one day.
3: since i'm never going to go for that stuff, all i want is to see someone spinning it one day - i'll be happy.
if you get it by uberpoi 2 (or within two years) i'll be more than happy
cole. x
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they do porridge."
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Posted:
fine!
fine!
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am i bovvered though?
am i?
really, do i look bovvered?
am i bovvered?
am i?
bovvered?
no.
so shut up den.
cole. x
am i bovvered though?
am i?
really, do i look bovvered?
am i bovvered?
am i?
bovvered?
no.
so shut up den.
cole. x
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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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Posted:
so far off you might be on easter island...
doof
doof
so far off you might be on easter island...
doof
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happy easter
doof
cole. x
happy easter
doof cole. x
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they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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Posted:
'don't tell me what to do.'
(doof)
'don't tell me what to do.'
(doof)
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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I don't understand.
I don't understand.
Geologists do it in the dirt................
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chemical attraction
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chemical attraction
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Posted:
Neither do I lol
Neither do I lol
annoying boy
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but i've eventuallay understood the weave waistwrap. =) i can do all 4 front and 2 of the BTB 4. so soon i can do the full one! :cheer:
https://www.semlyen.net/cosmosjugglers/lib/contents.htm
i don't remebember who, but someone referred to this site in another WW-thread. it helped a lot.
/me goes practising
but i've eventuallay understood the weave waistwrap. =) i can do all 4 front and 2 of the BTB 4. so soon i can do the full one! :cheer:
https://www.semlyen.net/cosmosjugglers/lib/contents.htm
i don't remebember who, but someone referred to this site in another WW-thread. it helped a lot.
/me goes practising
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Posted:
sorry guys, just me and cole being silly.
we'll stop now.
s all round.
R
sorry guys, just me and cole being silly.
we'll stop now.
s all round.R
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Posted:
Ive finally got round to watching this.... wow i was doing it all wrong - no wonder i wasnt getting anywhere!!!
Thanks fluff! xxx
Ive finally got round to watching this.... wow i was doing it all wrong - no wonder i wasnt getting anywhere!!!
Thanks fluff! xxx
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