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Nucleopoi
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Posted:could someone please make a vid on how to do a butterfly waistwrap.i would be much obliged...thank you

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fluffy napalm fairy


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Posted:ok I just followed your instructions to the 'T' (/ 'btb bf ww') wink

I can do that. I think. smile


Geologists do it in the dirt................ spank

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coleman
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Posted:yeah - it seems only girls are good at doing this move rolleyes

if you manage to get a full bf ww can you do a video extension please fluffy? ubbangel

miss pink had a lovely split-time btb bf ww thing that i saw on friday that looks a lot like the 'mirrored bf ww' that arashi describes in the thread i linked to above...

ooooh, there's just so much to play with!


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Posted:erm I don't have any camera stuff which is why that one I posted was literally a few seconds to help people - I don't have time or stuff to make a proper variations one - sorry shrug

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Posted:and I can't do it in front the same way as btb yet so a full bf ww is going to take abit of work. ubbrollsmile

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Posted:ubblol

i forgot i could do ww ttn.

ubblol(at self)

off to try that thing you described in t'other thread.

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Posted:ahaa!

yep, i can do that, i think a couple of ways(makes for strange splittimeness)

and, sorry cole, i was assuming your parents thangs as yours.


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coleman
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Posted:video please mr cat - cos i know you got a camera... wink


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Posted:as well as the willpower of a sheep and the spare time of a chicken without a head.

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coleman
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Posted:solution:



Written by: bluecat


yep, i can do that, i think a couple of ways(makes for strange splittimeness)





so, next time you try simply point the camera at yourself first tongue



good job i'm seeing you in a couple of weeks hug



full btb bf ww by uberpoi...?





cole. x



p.s. the new uberchallenge is underway devil


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Posted:well, i can do all three bits (the iso ww, the ww throw pirouette, and the ww throwboth to other side ww) so that should be fine ubblol

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coleman
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Posted:cool - that's my two challenges (one old, one new) that you should have completely nailed by uberpoi then biggrin



i'll have to think up a better one that will take you longer to get now rolleyes



btb 5bt weave into double trebla, 270 pirouette, catch in btb ww position so that the first beats are the carries.



i know that's all just poi juggling but if anyone can attempt it, its probabloy you - everyone else has got two years ubblol wink









cole. x



p.s. i found out last night that throwing and catching poi into and out of isolations is a lot harder than it sounds/should be...

or maybe its finally time i invested in some handle-end weights...


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Posted:right.
nailed the ww pirouette to ww the other side(and to think i'm supposed to be making a video!) but it is muuuuch easier sametime than split time, so i think i'll have challenge 2 by next week.
challenge 1 i don't remember...? help?

challenge 3: 5btbtb into double trebla is ok, but the double trebla into a full pirouette is hard enough, let alone 270degrees. hmmm.(runs off to practise single treblas into pirouettes...)

are we off topic yet?


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Posted:Trebla?

confused

Que?


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Posted:between the leg throw from behind-so named because a between the leg throw fro in front is called an albert, and albert reversed is trebla.
geddit?


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coleman
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Posted:Written by: bluecat
are we off topic yet?





waaaaaay off wink



challenge 1 was: full (same-time) btb bf ww.

challenge 2 was: an isolated btb ww but replacing carries with a front wallplane throw to other side with a pirouette under the throws.

challenge 3 was: btb 5bt weave into double trebla, 270 pirouette, catch in btb ww position so that the first beats are the carries.



and if challenges 2 and 3 seem too easy, you can make them 'proper' ( wink ) by converting to split-time butterfly versions - i.e. spin exactly the same moves but with poi spinning in opposite directions.





cole. x


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Posted:but cole, full btbbfww by your definitionelsewhere must be split time. or at least thats how i understand it(and spin it, on todays evidence).

so

1: can do, split, and badly same
2: can do if poi are same time(just got it twice)but not split
3: aargh.

angelblue
(what, like leftfield? wink)


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coleman
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Posted:challenge 1:
ubblol lazy cat making challenges easier for himself by not reading my posts...

read the whole of the first post on the proper btb bf ww thread - i mention that the split-time version is the completely analogous version but the same-time version is the real killer.

in fact, its one of the first things i say:

Written by: coleman

if you take a standard btb waistwrap and reverse the direction that one of the poi is spinning in, you get a butterfly waistwrap.

that move, spun same-time is the killer.



i go on to say that i can do one cycle of it but that its the carries that kill my planes and prevent me from doing it repeatedly or turning with it.

if you get to the point where you can do a few cycles btb or do a full ww like this (front linked with back) i reckon you'll have it nailed.


challenge 2:
same-time?
are you doing weave or bf?
if its weave it should blatently be splitime - who does a parallel ww once they've learnt them? wink


challenge 3:
tongue


angelblue
nah, like roots manuva wink


cole. x


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Posted:redface

1. but!
same time is NOT a proper analogous bf version of the ww. if you go to same time then you are not just changing the direction of one of the poi, but also its timing. so. imo i've done 1.

2: thats why i said i couldn't do it split. i'll practise but i reckon i'm at least on the way.(oh, and 'me' is your answer; i relly like sametime ww)


3. maybe uberpoi2?

ubbangel
(like q-tip)


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coleman
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Posted:dude - read my posts!!!



Written by: coleman


the split-time version is the completely analogous version but the same-time version is the real killer.





then you say:



Written by: bluecat


but!

same time is NOT a proper analogous bf version of the ww.





you crazy man... rolleyes





1: like i said, if you change the challenge, it doesn't bloody well count!

the split-time version was never as hard as the same time and the thread i pointed you to said so.

i could do the split-time version far more intuitively back when i posted that thread - it was the same-time (butterfly-time) version that stumped me and just about every other spinner i presented it to.

just cos you can't be bothered to read it and can do what you thought you'd read more easily, doesn't mean you've completed the challenge rolleyes

i could run 27 metres of the london marathon and think i'm finished because i misread the word 'miles', but it doesn't mean i get to claim first prize and a marathon certificate does it...?

you're just a big blue cheater tongue



2: again, sorry - not the move described by the challenge.

you're just trying to rush things and claim partial uberness in the face of something you can't do yet - you'll have it one day.



3: since i'm never going to go for that stuff, all i want is to see someone spinning it one day - i'll be happy.

if you get it by uberpoi 2 (or within two years) i'll be more than happy smile





cole. x


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Posted:ubblol

fine!


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coleman
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Posted:am i bovvered though?
am i?
really, do i look bovvered?
am i bovvered?
am i?
bovvered?

no.

so shut up den.

wink


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Posted:so far off you might be on easter island...

doofhug2doof


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coleman
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Posted:happy easter

hug2 doof hug2


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Posted:'don't tell me what to do.'

ubblol

hug2

(doof)


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Posted:frown

I don't understand.


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Nucleopoi
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Posted:Neither do I lol

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Disc0


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Posted:ditto
but i've eventuallay understood the weave waistwrap. =) i can do all 4 front and 2 of the BTB 4. so soon i can do the full one! :cheer:

http://www.semlyen.net/cosmosjugglers/lib/contents.htm
br>i don't remebember who, but someone referred to this site in another WW-thread. it helped a lot.

/me goes practising


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Posted:sorry guys, just me and cole being silly.

we'll stop now.

hug2s all round.

R


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Vixen
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Posted:Ive finally got round to watching this.... wow i was doing it all wrong - no wonder i wasnt getting anywhere!!!

Thanks fluff! xxx


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