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raveman


newbie


Total posts: 3
Posted:whaich do you prefer and for what reasons? i use both and i just

wanted your oppinions

thanx,
raveman


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Lavatwilight
GOLD Member since Aug 2004

Lavatwilight

old hand
Location: Wellington somerset, UK

Total posts: 834
Posted:ok so i use short sticks from time to time, and they are lovley, but staff has more flow to it and more having to find space to move in that baton, and for that it gets my vote smile

Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars

Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film

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wing


member
Location: New Haven, CT

Total posts: 52
Posted:I'm in love with both, I could never decide.
linda


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strugz
BRONZE Member since Mar 2002

strugz

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Southampton - Possibly..., Uni...

Total posts: 3964
Posted:IMO

Staff is much harder, and has many more possibilities, its also IMO lends itslef to body flow and movement............. for people teching themself anyway, its much easier moving round a 5ft staff with some pattern, than moving round a stick less than 1m biggrin

Two staffs is where its at though wink

::still no staffy gremlin::


"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

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ado-p
GOLD Member since May 2004

ado-p

Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland

Total posts: 3882
Posted:mmmm four staff contact...

well... a man can dream

smile


Love is the law.

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Kyle McLean
BRONZE Member since Jul 2003

Kyle McLean

Living it up
Location: Brisbane/Berlin, Australia

Total posts: 364
Posted:devil

Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film

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ado-p
GOLD Member since May 2004

ado-p

Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland

Total posts: 3882
Posted:thought that might get your attention wink

just thinking about three is enought make my head explode.

i like doing contact with really short sticks. so i reckon i might like baton too.

must ring that baton teacher i met

smile


Love is the law.

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UCOF
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: , United Kingdom

Total posts: 15414
Posted:Written by: Strugz
Staff is much harder





Written by: Strugz
its much easier moving round a 5ft staff with some pattern, than moving round a stick less than 1m





Which is it then? wink



For the above reason (a baton being smaller), I reckon baton twirlerising is much harder as a smaller thing goes faster.


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strugz
BRONZE Member since Mar 2002

strugz

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Southampton - Possibly..., Uni...

Total posts: 3964
Posted:I was waiting for someone to pickup on that - well done Mr UCOF, you passed the contradiction test wink

**staff is still harder / better and far more satisfying than baton**

tongue

**goes to practice reading what he wrote**

smile


"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

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minimaniac


minimaniac

The Ladiees Man
Location: near swindon/ oxford

Total posts: 360
Posted:i say baton's are nice but there is nothing better than spinning a nice staff and so i guess i will have to sway towards the staff.

big up contact staff!!!


I'm going to leave the army and run away to the circus

if not i will just become a MI5 agent !!!

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Faberg
GOLD Member since Aug 2003

veteran
Location: Dublin, Ireland

Total posts: 1459
Posted:my twins are only about a meter

does that make them batons?

or staffons??

ubbrollsmile


My mind not only wanders, it sometimes leaves completely smile

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UCOF
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: , United Kingdom

Total posts: 15414
Posted:Faberge: I prefer the term: Baffs smile



I wonder what the opinions would be if you posted the same question on a baton twirling site?



wink


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minimaniac


minimaniac

The Ladiees Man
Location: near swindon/ oxford

Total posts: 360
Posted:i reckon you would get the answer
"what are staffs?" and
"oh there to big to spin!"


I'm going to leave the army and run away to the circus

if not i will just become a MI5 agent !!!

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Frederick the Reckless
BRONZE Member since Aug 2004

Frederick the Reckless

Troupe Leader and founder, Fire and Steel
Location: Oregon, USA

Total posts: 241
Posted:i actually am even on both counts. the baton lends itself better to speed and tight maneuvers, but the staff flows extremely well... i do blindfold with both, and find the staff better suited to this. however when it comes to combining dance and firebreathing, the baton is SO much better for breathing and continuing to flow. the baton requires more manual dexterity to make it look good, therefore i love the challenge. the staff is something that requires more body control, balance, and fluidity, and that is a welcome challenge too. if i truly had to choose between the two, i honestly could not.

Frederick the Reckless,
Troupe Leader,
Fire and Steel

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Disc0


annoying boy
Location: Sweden

Total posts: 160
Posted:i'd say staff.
i've never tried batons but i think staffs round 6ft is the most lovely thing to watch, and therefore that's the thing i'd like to learn really good.

but double fire-batons isn't a shame either.... biggrin


fire is just light and heat.
it's you friend!

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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kin...

Total posts: 7330
Posted:its not the size, its what you do with it that counts.

apparently.

personally, the "one styleness" of baton twirling means i very quickly get bored watching them.

obviously this could be my untrained eye not recognising the subtle differences in style but when it comes to sticks i like playing with the larger kind smile

need more wick on mine now though... devil


cole. x


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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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fluffy napalm fairy


fluffy napalm fairy

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land

Total posts: 3638
Posted:i want to learn baton twirling.

I love my short sticks but I'm falling in love with my new big sticks too - rapidly!

ubblove

to watch - two big sticks biggrin


Geologists do it in the dirt................ spank

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strugz
BRONZE Member since Mar 2002

strugz

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Southampton - Possibly..., Uni...

Total posts: 3964
Posted:2 big sticks glad to hear it wink

"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

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fluffy napalm fairy


fluffy napalm fairy

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Brum / Dorset / Fairy Land

Total posts: 3638
Posted:biggrin

except the hurt more....................... *oops*


Geologists do it in the dirt................ spank

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PrayerFireAngel
BRONZE Member since Mar 2005

PrayerFireAngel

member
Location: Merced, Ca, USA

Total posts: 30
Posted:At the present I would say Staff. I am learning Staff with Susan Orr's Baton twirling videos. My best friend was making fun of the videos but I have learned a lot in the past few weeks. I am guessing that when you do the half or full throw & spin around it hurts more getting conked in the head with the staff. My head is still sore from the other day & I was afraid I had split my skull open. I also have a nasty bruise from an elbow roll gone wrong.

May All Your Prayers Be Heard...

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Frederick the Reckless
BRONZE Member since Aug 2004

Frederick the Reckless

Troupe Leader and founder, Fire and Steel
Location: Oregon, USA

Total posts: 241
Posted:Written by: coleman

personally, the "one styleness" of baton twirling means i very quickly get bored watching them.




if the user has only one style, then yes they get boring quickly. i change it up quite a bit with all my fireprops, so that each performance set is different. this keeps the audience from getting hypnotized into a coma.


Frederick the Reckless,
Troupe Leader,
Fire and Steel

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bender
GOLD Member since Nov 2001

still can't believe it's not butter
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Total posts: 6979
Posted:i like small staves and i vote*

Laugh Often, Smile Much, Post lolcats Always

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Nephrurus
BRONZE Member since Sep 2004

Nephrurus

newbie
Location: Penrith, NSW, Australia

Total posts: 10
Posted:Double staff are the bizz-nass!

But then theres doubles contact.... it comes in a close second......


"If you light a man a fire he will be warm for the night. Set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life!"

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Klaymen



Location: Melbourne, Vic.

Total posts: 180
Posted:I've never thought of my 1m double-staffs as batons, they're so frikkin' heavy because I made them from steel, they're heavier than most big staffs, and have just as much momentum because of this =).

I think of baton as those utterly light mini sticks that change direction super easily and can be thrown effortlessly etc.


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