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Dentrassi
GOLD Member since Apr 2003

Dentrassi

ZORT!
Location: Brisbane, Australia

Total posts: 3044
Posted:ok, ive been playing around with this idea for a month or so now, but without the time to really dedicate to nailing it.



i figured out this concept when thinking about 5 hole staff theory [who was it that posted that thread anyway?] - but rather than thinking about what 'holes' are there to be played with, what body parts can be used.



The matrix is a brilliant starting point - it used 4 out of 5 of the classical 'holes' [ie under arm, neck/shoulder, neck/shoulder other side, underarm otherside - the only 'hole' it doesnt use is between the legs, no pun intended...]. but rather than thinking about it in terms of holes, contact staff is better thought of in pivot points.



the entrance to what i call the matix [Sydney contact staff scene is bugger-all so i may have some definitions wrong] rotation staff anticlockwise is to enter with my right hand to left side of neck so it rotates around neck and you can tilt your body and use over exagerrated hand movements to flick it around under my right arm pit to the front side.



here i have used 2 pivots - 1st my neck, then 2nd my shoulder/armpit to spin the staff around.



Just before this point, if i enter into a cartwheel to my left side, the staff can spin around my back as an extra pivot to catch on my left side as i exit from the cartwheel.



Now - i have managed to do this twice out of 50 or so attempts. the first time i tried it, as soon as i was halfway though the cartwheel - all i could focus on was the staff on my back - and i forgot the second half of the cartwheel, and landed heavily on the dirt.

but it feels like most contact - very weird until you are used to the muscle memory. I think another problem is i dont yet have enough explosive athletic power to flip 87 kg of me around fast enough



i dont really have time in my life to practise too much as present, but wondered if anyone else have played around with this idea with more success?



anyway, peace, love, and hugs, to all the contact staffers out there. peace kiss hug

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-sandy-
BRONZE Member since Jul 2004

-sandy-

old hand
Location: Bristol, United Kingdom

Total posts: 716
Posted:Yea the no-hander took me a little while, then it just sorta came to me, i spent a fair while practicing 1 handed with the 1 hand as the far hand then just tried to put it down as late as possible until it worked. The main thing seems to be the force with which you kick off from your second leg and how hard you throw your head at the floor! Its 90% guts to get a clean one, oh and standing on a hill helps smile

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BrettStar
PLATINUM Member since Oct 2004

BrettStar

old festy hand
Location: , Australia

Total posts: 765
Posted:wow a hill! never thought of that... hmm... this thread needs more videos... makes stuff way easier to learn i find smile

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-sandy-
BRONZE Member since Jul 2004

-sandy-

old hand
Location: Bristol, United Kingdom

Total posts: 716
Posted:Starting to land cartwheel rolls a bit more regularly now, managed 3 on tuesday smile trying to cartwheel on the spot seems to help as this keeps you under the spin of the staff.

So far i've only landed cartwheel rolls where im placing the staff in with my hand then doing a cartwheel, my next goal is to do it from a steve matrix and hopefully exit with one too. yay! proper ultimate rolls! May take a little more practice though.


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Suibom


Suibom

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Location: Oregon, USA

Total posts: 577
Posted:Hmm.. I'm surprised Nate's vid is not here. A friend of mine here in Oregon that's got some great contact work. The part you want to see is at the end of the vid:




peace,
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LastSeraph
SILVER Member since May 2007

LastSeraph

stranger
Location: Wales

Total posts: 1
Posted:...anyone on this thread know of any links to videos involving cartwheels/ aerial cartwheels and staff please - attempting to learn and getting very tangled...

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DyamiTK
GOLD Member since Mar 2008

DyamiTK

beginner forever
Location: Santa Cruz, Ca, USA

Total posts: 159
Posted:there is this:



I'm sure I've got some more, I'll post 'em if i fine 'em.


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DyamiTK
GOLD Member since Mar 2008

DyamiTK

beginner forever
Location: Santa Cruz, Ca, USA

Total posts: 159
Posted:oh and the legendary contact matrix cartwheel but someone has probably already posted a link to that

it's near the end, I don't remember the time exactly:



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HeyNick


stranger


Total posts: 2
Posted:Aileen at the Vulcan does a pretty awesome contact cartwheel, she starts with almost a mime move with the staff one her neck and both hands holding it like a clip, then cartwheels. It looks pretty cool.

Lester from Firegroove also does a cool halo cartwheel, these people need to get some damned video of these moves already!


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DyamiTK
GOLD Member since Mar 2008

DyamiTK

beginner forever
Location: Santa Cruz, Ca, USA

Total posts: 159
Posted:



go to 3:25





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Dwarf_star
PLATINUM Member since Oct 2006

Dwarf_star

"setting things on fire legally since 2004
Location: NewZealand, New Zealand

Total posts: 7
Posted:I don't know quite what you mean in the blog but I have mastered a one handed cartwheel with the staff spinning behind my back, it stalls and changes direction into a wrap when you exit.
If this sounds like what you are talking about I would be happy to video it for you to see.
I am also around 80 kg so weight is no problem with this version.

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Pyrolific
BRONZE Member since Jan 2001

Returning to a unique state of Equilibrium
Location: Adelaide, South Australia

Total posts: 3289
Posted:DynamiTK - thats a great vid showing some kickass object manipulators who all happen to be women. You guys at Vulcan have obviously got something special happenning in your scene - welldone!

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gumop


newbie
Location: belgium

Total posts: 36
Posted:DynamiTK the matrix cartwheel done on the next level contact staff isn't done with a lot of luck ?




This a french staffer called Alain who can do a chinese twist with a staff on his shoulder wink


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gumop


newbie
Location: belgium

Total posts: 36
Posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv9UfTk1CHM


Sorry for the link mistake...


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Total posts: 413
Posted:Cool!

ninja


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gumop


newbie
Location: belgium

Total posts: 36
Posted:it's possible to do a angel cartwheel entrance and exit smile

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