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Analemma


Analemma

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Posted:I dont know the name of this one but it can be found HERE in the staff lessons. Someone told me its called pinwheel?!?



Definitely more diffucult with Poi, so what one has to practice first:



a.) forwards and backwards onehanded weave with each hand

b.) onehanded passing (quite tricky to pass both Poi at the same time)



good luck and have fun



andy



PS: For those who can already do it - there is an antispin variation too, but its even "a little bit more difficult" biggrin


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Posted:i'm confused..
so you just have the oi act like a staff and pass them behind your back?


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Posted:the challenge lies in the "just" biggrin

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Posted:I don't think it's pinwheel andy, I think pin wheel is the shortened buzzsaw but horizontal instead of vertical, of course I could be very wrong biggrin

So basically the same as the meteor move but with poi yeah? hmmm.....that pass above the head must be super tricky! And as for anti spin.....well lets say you've just filled my afternoon with something new to learn ubblove ubbrollsmile hug


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Posted:cool, I can do the antispin version with staff, so I might have a go...

thanks for showing me that multiplex stuff, got very inspired last night....

on a side note, last night i got THE butterfly, which is anti-spin shoulder/hip reels. so in forwards bf the poi go bth the behind the bum then to the front, its ugly on the wrists, o yes.

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Posted:Yeah that's a bit of a wrist and shoulder killer that one smile

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Rev
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Posted:dude I've soo been working on that.. not the bottom half but the top half because I've been trying to get a 5bt onehanded fountain.. and you can't do a 5bt onehanded weave without passing..

for once andy.. I'm completely there with you man.. beerchug


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Posted:Written by: Dunc

I don't think it's pinwheel andy, I think pin wheel is the shortened buzzsaw but horizontal instead of vertical, of course I could be very wrong biggrin



I HAVE seen less cool people refer to buzzsaws as pinwheels. But that was on the INTERNET. And you know THOSE people. wink


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Posted:A certain someone PMed me and called me a liar so I have no choice but to show you...

THE INTERNET!

Do not doubt these people, they have a website and are therefore correct.

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Posted:some of thos bf vairiations are sick who is that

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Rev
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Posted:that's frickin awesome man...

but since its an american site.. shouldn't it be, according to our dictator, on the interenetS.. you seem to have only one internet.. I'm not sure if that counts.. do you have another interent to back it up? ubbloco


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Posted:Written by: Rev

do you have another interent to back it up? ubbloco



Just hit "refresh". biggrin


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Posted:Oops... I thought I was joking but it appears the Temple of Poi also uses the phrase 'pinwheels' to mean buzzsaws...

See?


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Posted:OK... the horse is dead but I've found more pinwheels...

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Posted:sounds like meteor talk to me... umm

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Rev
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Posted:Check and mate.. LOL... nice one bruva! nice one!

but to get back on topic.. anybody been playing with what andy's talking about? I don't have my btb stuff down enough to get the bottom pass yet.. but I have the top part both ways.. wink


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Posted:Written by:
OK... the horse is dead but I've found more pinwheels...




So how should we name that beauty? NYC sounds too amerikan, somehow . . . .

Written by:
don't have my btb stuff down enough to get the bottom pass yet.. but I have the top part both ways..


Its coming . . . and its not that easy but I am shure you gonna enjoy the trip wink

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sounds like meteor talk to me...


It is . . . only with the added finger challenge of passing from one hand to the other behind the head and behind the back both ways with 2 seperate Poi at the same time ubbidea

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Posted:pinwheels was all charles idea.... i remember....

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Posted:no way dude - i've been working on that for like a month.

still suck at the pass though...


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Posted:Written by: NYC

Oops... I thought I was joking but it appears the Temple of Poi also uses the phrase 'pinwheels' to mean buzzsaws...

See?



actually, ToP uses "pinwheel" to mean "windmill".

a buzzsaw is a buzzsaw, everybody knows that. ubbangel


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Posted:Isnt it staff theme, what about to ask some staffer? can recomend Ben-ja-men smile

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Rev
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Posted:andy- do you do your passes at the same time? my hangup is that I'm still in the habit of passing the poi one at a time.. typically with a half circles worth of spin in between.. when I try to break that habit, I usually end up tossing one of the poi (the bottom held one, whihc seems odd).. the toss itseld isnt really that bad.. it just doesnt really help with this pattern.. LOL..

as far as a name.. qwertyuiop... sure it doesnt have that over obvious zang to it like most moves, but I doubt there are any other moves with the name.. ubbloco besides.. I think people just name moves after what they look like, so they either a) they don't have to rememebr the name, they can just do the pattern to remember what it was called.. or b) just remember the name, since a lot of times we come up with stuff and can't remember what it was we did or necessarily how we did it..


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Posted:Written by:
do you do your passes at the same time?



otherwise it wouldnt look like in the video . . .


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when I try to break that habit, I usually end up tossing one of the poi (the bottom held one, whihc seems odd).. the toss itseld isnt really that bad.. it just doesnt really help with this pattern.. LOL..


Tossing in this pattern is possible as well but makes it more complicated imo - I tried to start some discussion HERE but I think it will take some time till it will become more common.

keep the fire burning!

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Posted:acutally mine still look like same time passes... its just the hands are next to each other for half a circle... it just makes it look like the pass takes taht long. you can't tell that they are passed individually.. which is why I asked...

and I've heard about your tosses into onehanded.. have you landed any onehanded tosses to onehanded? I'm no where near ready for any of those, but I have some of you other multplex things down.. I guess I should be talking about that in the other thread huh? :runs off:


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Posted:Why not call it a roundhouse? smile

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Pyrolific
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Posted:A Staffer says: Pinwheel with Poi.

In staff language on this site that move is definitely a pinwheel. nice one for doing it tho. are you using double finger loops?


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Posted:Moderator and Staffplayer from Australia says pinwheel - that is a good argument to actually call it a pinwheel ubbrollsmile

To answer your questoin: I am using doublefingerloops, but for passing and throwing I havent found the perfect handle yet. (What works are KNOEPFE at the end of the string - this way you can combine them in one flick into a meteor and back - full tension is possible too)

ubbidea



What seems to work quite well when passing is to hold both between thumb, index and middle finger when passing. But again - 1000 possibilities out there - find out which one suits you best . . .


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Posted:Written by: PoiBoxII

(What works are KNOBS at the end of the string - this way you can combine them in one flick into a meteor and back - full tension is possible too)
ubbidea




That looks like a button. Is that the size you're suggesting? Like a large button? confused


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Analemma

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Posted:recommended size: around 2 centimeters, but best is to find your own preference.

Its like the size of your loops - everyone is spinning with different ones . . .


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Stout
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Posted:But,,,But,,,But. a pinwheel only has one fixed center of rotation. In this pattern the point of poi rotation moves in a circle.Unless, of course you want to call the center of rotation that imaginary point in the center of the pattern

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Stone
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Posted:Cheers stout,

A fixed centre of rotation.

My original message:

I really dont have an opinion on this one, because I dont know what a real live pinwheel looks like. My guess is something like one of those lucky number wheels you see on TV or at Fetes?

bec and elke the call it a windmill in their fire twirling book, but I was quickly corrected when I, um, mentioned this in staff moves wink There is also a club move called a pinwheel.


Its equlivant in poi would to be spin split-time one poi in front, belly button high The other behind, same height as front (to right or to left). Do a couple of beats, then swap front and back hands. Harder than it looks. Many moons ago, I actually called one of my first staff moves the pinwheel.

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