"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
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Lycan:are you a citrus fruit?
Orange:no
Lycan:dam, i wanted to make citrus fruit pie.
*Lycan walks off completely unaware he has once again been outwitted by the intellectual orange*
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Lycan:are you a citrus fruit?
Orange:no
Lycan:dam, i wanted to make citrus fruit pie.
*Lycan walks off completely unaware he has once again been outwitted by the intellectual orange*
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
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If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
Written by: onewheeldave
I anticipate that 'hypocrisy' will be brought into this ie why should alcohol/tobacco be legal and not marijuana- the main thing I'd ask people to reflect on with this is that alcohol/tobacco have been legal so long that-
1. they are (sadly IMO) accepted, seen as the norm, and prohibiting them fully would seem to be impractical
2. if they were freshly discovered today, they would be banned
3. in the case of tobacco, efforts are being made to gradually scale down use, by, for example, it being made illegal in increasing numbers of countries, to use it in public places
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
Lycan:are you a citrus fruit?
Orange:no
Lycan:dam, i wanted to make citrus fruit pie.
*Lycan walks off completely unaware he has once again been outwitted by the intellectual orange*
.All things are beautiful if we take the time to look.
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Just to put a different slant on this; is it not possible that a contributing factor to the devastation caused by the legal drugs, is precisely the fact that they are legal, and thus easily obtainable and usable in public?
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
Written by: Stone
There are good indications that SN interventions will fit comfortably within our harm minimisation policy framework. Unlike health promotion approaches that seek to scare people off behaviours because they are risky (or shame people out of them because they are ‘bad’), SN approaches takes a neutral stance – they do not present alcohol consumption as either evil or virtuous. Importantly, there is an assumption that manyyoung people do and will continue to consume alcohol - the challenge lies in finding evidence-based ways to diminish the likelihood of them harming either themselves or others in the process. SN is a promising candidate in this regard
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
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Written by: roarfire
Yes smoking is horrible for your health, breathing, lungs, teeth, body in general....but alcohol long term also has disadvantages...liver damage, addiction.
Written by: Stone
To be honest Dave, I don’t see it as a competition. Drugs always seem to cause problems one way or another, no matter how the are distributed.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
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Written by: Stone
Pdf file extracts:
About the Social Norms approach:
The foundational research was undertaken in the late 1980s by social scientists Perkins and Berkowitz, who discovered widespread misperception of alcohol-related attitudes and behaviours among college students at Hobart and William Smith Colleges in upstate New York.
Beck and Trieman’s finding that “teens' drinking behaviors are not driven so much by a need for peer approval or to be accepted by a group, but rather by what is perceived of as normal behavior among one's close friends”25,19.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
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"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Written by: Stone
Giving views on hypocrisy and other subjects does not erase them from discussion.
Written by: StoneWritten by: onewheeldave
Just to put a different slant on this; is it not possible that a contributing factor to the devastation caused by the legal drugs, is precisely the fact that they are legal, and thus easily obtainable and usable in public
Then why aren’t they banned like the other, they were also legal at one time?
Written by: onewheeldave
1. they are (sadly IMO) accepted, seen as the norm, and prohibiting them fully would seem to be impractical
2. if they were freshly discovered today, they would be banned
3. in the case of tobacco, efforts are being made to gradually scale down use, by, for example, it being made illegal in increasing numbers of countries, to use it in public places
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
I had a dream that my friend had a
strong-bad pop up book,
it was the book of my dreams.
Written by: coleman
but the counter argument is that given a wider choice of legal drugs, would alcohol and tobacco use decline and hence, the problem associated with them fall also (replaced with other problems but very likely, problems that affect society at large in a much smaller way)?
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: onewheeldave
Like I've said many times before, there's scope, and need for multiple approaches to the problem- some of those approaches will be education based, others will be legislation based.
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
I had a dream that my friend had a
strong-bad pop up book,
it was the book of my dreams.
Written by: coleman
can you define 'the problem' more clearly please dave?
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
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Written by: coleman
the reason i have argued against so many of your assertions in the past is that i see 'the problem' at large as being the restrictions placed by elected governments on individuals' personal liberties and you see the problem at large as being the flaws or weaknesses in the human condition that encourage us to experient with and enjoy recrational drug use.
cole. x
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
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Written by: coleman
the reason i got that impression was your repeated opinion that 'the problem' can be overcome with carefully chosen legislation and education.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
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Written by: Tao Star
i think the problem is not the need to experiment, but the dependancy that it sometimes leads to.
Written by: Tao Star
at least when things are legal there is support for those people who take it too far.
And as far as i have seen, banning people from taking some drugs doesn't stop them getting addicted or messing their lives up.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"is optimism in austria just a lack of information?"
-Alfred Dorfer
It is our fantasies that make us real. Without our fantasies we're just a blank monkey' - Terry Pratchett