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DoktorSkell
DoktorSkell

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Posted:I was doing some contact the other day when this old lady asked me how the ball sticks to my hand.

I love it when that happens ubblove


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animatEd
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Posted:I was doing some contact with a stage ball the other day, and I had some kids do exactly the same. I managed to convince them that there was a little hamster inside the ball and it was running all over my body!!

Was so funny!!


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Gelfling
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Posted:Ever had peeps ask if its done with magnets? Once joked that I had an electro-magnet relay system in my arm - they didn't get the joke <memo to self - being a science geek isn't always the way forward>

>What do you think about the state of the Earth?
>I'm optimistic.
>So why do you look so sad?
>I'm not sure that my optimism is justified.

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Vixen
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Posted:.... you mean thats not how its done? xxx

tHeReS gOoD aNd EvIl iN EaCh InDiViDuAl fIrE, iDeNtIfIeS nEeDs AnD fEeDs OuR dEsIrEs.

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Gelfling
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Posted:SSSSSSSHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh - don't tell anyone will you eek

>What do you think about the state of the Earth?
>I'm optimistic.
>So why do you look so sad?
>I'm not sure that my optimism is justified.

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Pooh-Bah
Location: Bristol
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Posted:I really want to learn contact juggling...where do i start and which is the best ball to start with?

some help would be really great!!


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coleman
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Posted:Written by: starpoi

where do i start and which is the best ball to start with?



here and this one (100mm)

ubbangel

you might want to check out contactjuggling.org too.

they're pretty friendly over there smile


cole. x


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swingdemon
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Posted:and you want to do this course .

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Can't juggle won't juggle .....

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Pooh-Bah
Location: Bristol
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Posted:thank you!!

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Gelfling
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Posted:If you have small hands you can try filling a tennis ball with rice and then coating in electricians tape - alot cheeper than acrylic and easier to repair.

>What do you think about the state of the Earth?
>I'm optimistic.
>So why do you look so sad?
>I'm not sure that my optimism is justified.

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DoktorSkell
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Posted:I see a lot of people asking what to use.
ummm... a contact juggling ball? thats what i use ^_^

Just kidding. Good on you for wanting to learn contacty skills Starpoi.
its a lot of fun and really rewarding.
it may take ages to learn but the mesmorised look on peoples faces when you do it is priceless ^3^


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Pooh-Bah
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Posted:well i've ordered my ball. theres so many to choose from. think i'll wait till i can do it before i spash out on one of those spangly clear ones. Got the one cole suggested, thanks!

is the book with the black and white cover by james ernest worth getting?


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Gelfling
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Posted:I personally didn't find it helpful - but by the time I got the book I could already do all the moves described so that's probably why. However, the book does descibe the moves very well so it could be worth getting. I guess it depends on how you learn best - I would personally recommend watching videos featuring contact jugglers.

>What do you think about the state of the Earth?
>I'm optimistic.
>So why do you look so sad?
>I'm not sure that my optimism is justified.

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coleman
coleman

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Posted:never seen 'the book' but cj.org has tonnes of videos of moves - all recently catergorised by number of balls.

you can then post on the forum if you need extra tips smile

other than learning palm isolations and multiball, i use a stage ball at the moment too - great for body rolls and it dosesn't make you cry when you drop.

4" acylic... one day ubbrollsmile


cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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DoktorSkell
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Posted:Not only are the video's good for learning.

But they are oh so good to watch.

*whores over other peoples contacty skills*


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fair luna moon, fair luna bright
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Shu
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Posted:Written by: Vixen


.... you mean thats not how its done? xxx





so u go bust my bubble!

*me sulks in corner*





(mine has a chubb chubb in it!)


Regards hug

Shu
(Ice-E FyreStorm - Group Manager & Performer)

You know those people your parentals warned you about?... I'M ONE OF THEM! ubbloco
Yes, i do bite!!

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DoktorSkell
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Posted:Written by: Shu

Written by: Vixen

.... you mean thats not how its done? xxx



so u go bust my bubble!
*me sulks in corner*


(mine has a chubb chubb in it!)



Whats a Chubb Chubb?


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Pooh-Bah
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Posted:i was thinking that!

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DoktorSkell
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Posted:Has your contact ball arrived yet starry?

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Kodiac
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Posted:...*wants to learn contact juggling* Too bad I'm only a silly, poor, american teen. Buying all them expensive videos and books is not something I'm looking forward to. *Curses McDonalds for employing teens* It's practically the only place we can get a job now! Well, there and any other fast food joint. Hopefully I can find a mentor in Contact juggling that way I don't flub up too much and lose interest, cause I know I'm not getting to England any time soon for that nifty class. *goes off to study free videos and lessons on contact juggling while using an orange to roll around as his hands are so big.*

If you strap a piece of buttered toast, butter side up, to a cats back, would the cat get stuck in mid air if thrown due to quantum indecision?

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DoktorSkell
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Posted:Nyoooo.....

Poor Kodiac *pats*

Contact balls really arent THAT expensive. to learn you only need one of them and it will last "almost" forever. Even though dropping it will get it scratched and chipped

*chases my contact ball as it rolls down a hill hitting rocks on its way down*

Some people say its allright to learn contact with something equivalent to an acryllic ball. but i think its worth investing in a proper ball so that its not weird and you have to re-learn when you want to change to an acryllic later.

i say to all people. buy quality equipment. good props are worth the money


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Pooh-Bah
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Posted:not yet frown
stupid royal mail


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coleman
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Posted:Written by: DoktorSkell

Some people say its allright to learn contact with something equivalent to an acryllic ball. but i think its worth investing in a proper ball so that its not weird and you have to re-learn when you want to change to an acryllic later.

i say to all people. buy quality equipment. good props are worth the money



an acylic is only 'the best prop' for learning certain contact moves imho.
i use acylics for multiball and palm spins/transfers.
everything else i use a stage ball for.

admittedly, if i had a 4" acrylic, i'd use it a lot of the time but even then, if you are learning body rolls a rhythmic gymnastics ball will see you picking up the theory much faster and making much more productive progress.
i bought one to head bounce with but i ended up using it to learn body rolls.

i have chest rolls fairly solid now with a 4" stage ball and half chest rolls with 3" acrylics are sorted too - in under 3 months smile

i saw three beautiful contact routines last night ubblove
one of them had a tonne 2 and 4 ball stuff that i've been playing with but done 10 times better and with 10 times the amount of creativity and flow.
i'm glad i'm a newbie sometimes ubbrollsmile


cole. x


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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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animatEd
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Posted:I learnt it all with an acrylic. I've only got my stage ball recently, but it does help to learn some stuff with.

Acrylics are much easier to learn isolations with, but body rolling is easier with a big stage ball.

I've been contact juggling for about 7 months now, and I can do quite a lot of the butterfly moves, chest rolls both ways, behind the neck roll and almost nailed the pirouette, various stalls, elbow transfers, quite a few isolations etc etc... believe the 'trick' to learning stuff is to slow it right down, oh, and practise. lots of it. The type of ball doesn't really make a difference, it's just personal preference.


Empty your mind. Be formless, Shapeless, like Water.
Put Water into a cup, it becomes the cup, put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, put water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
Water can flow, or it can Crash.
Be Water My Friend.

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coleman
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Posted:the voice of reason smile

agree with all of what you just said mr the circus.

was well impressed with your skills at falmouth by the way.
watching you made me want to start learning the cage you know...
its getting closer but i'm still a *looooong* way off solid ubbrollsmile


cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
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they do porridge."
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animatEd
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Posted:thankx man!! *redface

Cages are a fun move. how are you getting on with it? Can you do prayer butterfly? That'll help you nail them.

When you do cages, your hands need to be in a bear claw sort of shape. When you roll the ball over, you'll want to give it a tiny throw in the air, just enough to take the weight of the ball off your hands, but stay in contact with the ball and roll it slowly over your fingers. you'll get it in no time.


Empty your mind. Be formless, Shapeless, like Water.
Put Water into a cup, it becomes the cup, put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, put water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
Water can flow, or it can Crash.
Be Water My Friend.

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Gelfling
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Posted:I learned with hockey balls and then went on to making my own out of electricians tape foam balls and rice. The home made ones are better than anything else I've come across for learning stuff with since they are 217g in mass and 85mm in diameter - but I guess that's the same with any prop you make for yourself.

Basically acrylics have the perfect mass and stage balls have the perfect forgiveness i.e. they can be pressed into one another with comparable ease (unlike acrylics that slide off one another way too easily). If you are into multiball then acrylics are expensive. If you're into one ball then an acrylic is well worth the investment (although I still think a hockey ball is just as good to begin with and a fraction of the cost). However, when you are initially learning it is advisable to tape over your acrylic to avoid dents and scratches and take the tape off when you've mastered the basics, that way you won't cry early for a few months.

LTC - I'm going to invest in some monkey fists for some multiball fire CJ - next time we meet we'll play again right *fire multiball cages* will either be awesome or very painful!!! Since Falmouth I've been working much more on body rolls and elbow isolations - talking of Falmouth I'm going back there a week Tuesday with my A-level students.


>What do you think about the state of the Earth?
>I'm optimistic.
>So why do you look so sad?
>I'm not sure that my optimism is justified.

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DoktorSkell
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Posted:I am so glad there are lots of people here with contacty skills.
i was attracted to contact juggling because its an art where you have to be in 100% control all of the time.

There is nothing in the world as gracefull or as beautifull as a well perfomed contact routine.

DAMN YOU MOSCHEN!! DAMN YOU AND YOUR SKILLS *shakes fist*


Fair luna bright, fair luna moon
it shines at night but fades too soon
fair luna moon, fair luna bright
forever we dance
we dance under starlight

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Nucleopoi
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Posted:*joins in the fist shaking fun*

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LazyAngel
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Posted:Gelfling- if you wait til next falmouth, I promise i'll do my best to break that other old monkeyfist poi of mine so you can have a go at 2 ball contact. See if you set your arms on fire then you can decide whether you want to do multiball fire CJ?
Also I'm going to be niggling at people to teach me some CJ stuff (tho it'll be basic cos I'm fairly rubbish). Cup of tea/ some chocolate for a CJ lesson, anyone?


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Posted:Tea? Chocolate? Throw in some Curry a la Gelfling and you have a deal!!

Lesson one: Buy a contact ball. ubblol


Empty your mind. Be formless, Shapeless, like Water.
Put Water into a cup, it becomes the cup, put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, put water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
Water can flow, or it can Crash.
Be Water My Friend.

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