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14 posts
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CAN
14 posts
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CAN
Posted:
Hey,
I've had a friends aluminum 5' staff for a few years and done ok with it, but the center joint is not good, requires duct tape to attach, and is a little light for my tastes. Would like to buy one that's a little heavier and made from better materials.
Seeing a lot of people talk about having got new staffs, or made new staffs, but nothing as to where they are getting 'em from. If you have web links for places that people are making / buying their staffs could you post 'em here?
Ottawa is rather lacking in places to support my learning to spin.
Hey,
I've had a friends aluminum 5' staff for a few years and done ok with it, but the center joint is not good, requires duct tape to attach, and is a little light for my tastes. Would like to buy one that's a little heavier and made from better materials.
Seeing a lot of people talk about having got new staffs, or made new staffs, but nothing as to where they are getting 'em from. If you have web links for places that people are making / buying their staffs could you post 'em here?
Ottawa is rather lacking in places to support my learning to spin.
analytic
503 posts
Location: bristol
503 posts
Location: bristol
Posted:
1. durbs
2. home-made is best
3. www.fuckinggoogleit.com
4. um, HoP sells stuff . . .
1. durbs
2. home-made is best
3. www.fuckinggoogleit.com
4. um, HoP sells stuff . . .
ture na sig
newbie
14 posts
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CAN
14 posts
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CAN
Posted:
Thanks for the snarkyness, 'preciate it!
I have google'd it and other than bearclaw I haven't really seen anything that has appealed to me, but do not have the tools / skills necessary to make what I have in mind. A friends' friend made one that I would have liked (for her) but isn't making them anymore.
Hence asking the other people here on HOP.
Thanks for the snarkyness, 'preciate it!
I have google'd it and other than bearclaw I haven't really seen anything that has appealed to me, but do not have the tools / skills necessary to make what I have in mind. A friends' friend made one that I would have liked (for her) but isn't making them anymore.
Hence asking the other people here on HOP.
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old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
Posted:
jamie, i am going to be in ottawa, in july, spin some time?
will have to make my self a pair of staves when i am there, so could maybe help you out
jamie, i am going to be in ottawa, in july, spin some time?
will have to make my self a pair of staves when i am there, so could maybe help you out
Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars
Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
newbie
14 posts
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CAN
14 posts
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CAN
Posted:
Definately like that idea! Ottawa has some great parks to spin in with great background for photos. (Major's Hill Park, Astrolab and Art Gallery grounds, etc)
I've always *wanted* to light up off the eternal flame in front of our parliament buildings. I say *wanted* because I've since found out there are snipers in hiding spots watching the grounds 24 x 7 so that one has taken a back seat for a while.
My e-mail is on my bio page. When you get your schedule confirmed, drop me a line and can plan it out from there.
Definately like that idea! Ottawa has some great parks to spin in with great background for photos. (Major's Hill Park, Astrolab and Art Gallery grounds, etc)
I've always *wanted* to light up off the eternal flame in front of our parliament buildings. I say *wanted* because I've since found out there are snipers in hiding spots watching the grounds 24 x 7 so that one has taken a back seat for a while.
My e-mail is on my bio page. When you get your schedule confirmed, drop me a line and can plan it out from there.
analytic
503 posts
Location: bristol
503 posts
Location: bristol
Posted:
'pologies for the snarkyness, i guess it must have been late
making staves is pretty easy; you just need some metal, some wick, a drill, and a few self-tapping screws
internal dowelling and grip is optional [but recommended]
oh, and something to clamp the metal, I suppose - although I've drilled aluminium before using my foot to keep it in place.
seriously, though, don't overestimate how difficult it is. give it a go.
'pologies for the snarkyness, i guess it must have been late
making staves is pretty easy; you just need some metal, some wick, a drill, and a few self-tapping screws
internal dowelling and grip is optional [but recommended]
oh, and something to clamp the metal, I suppose - although I've drilled aluminium before using my foot to keep it in place.
seriously, though, don't overestimate how difficult it is. give it a go.
ture na sig
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Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Posted:
i've found that an open thick old book is a very handy mount for drilling round things on.
i've found that an open thick old book is a very handy mount for drilling round things on.
Love is the law.
analytic
503 posts
Location: bristol
503 posts
Location: bristol
Posted:
that strikes me as a good idea
chrome steel is pretty hard to get the drill going on, though - you'll find it slides off quite easily. shouldn't have the same problem with aluminium, though.
if you use steel, best bet is to clamp a wooden block on top of the staff and drill through the block; the block acts as a guide, and makes sure that the drill bit stays perpendicular to the long axis of the staff.
that strikes me as a good idea
chrome steel is pretty hard to get the drill going on, though - you'll find it slides off quite easily. shouldn't have the same problem with aluminium, though.
if you use steel, best bet is to clamp a wooden block on top of the staff and drill through the block; the block acts as a guide, and makes sure that the drill bit stays perpendicular to the long axis of the staff.
ture na sig
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Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Posted:
wrap the kevlar around the staff first. Tape it on tot he pole and Glue it in place with pva glue (white glue) before you wrap it around.
fold back about an inch of the wick when underneath to stop fraying (cover it in glue first) then wrap masking tape around the whole wick. this stops the wick catching on the drill bit
drill straight through the tape, wick, ali and dowel in one fowl swoop. makes a nice handy hole for the screw straight through the wick.
getting the tape of the wick is a very frustrating experience. i found out completly by accident that if you soak it in parrafin first the glue disolves and the tape just falls off.
dont go to far through the wood though as it gives the screw something to cut a thread into...
best of luck
a
wrap the kevlar around the staff first. Tape it on tot he pole and Glue it in place with pva glue (white glue) before you wrap it around.
fold back about an inch of the wick when underneath to stop fraying (cover it in glue first) then wrap masking tape around the whole wick. this stops the wick catching on the drill bit
drill straight through the tape, wick, ali and dowel in one fowl swoop. makes a nice handy hole for the screw straight through the wick.
getting the tape of the wick is a very frustrating experience. i found out completly by accident that if you soak it in parrafin first the glue disolves and the tape just falls off.
dont go to far through the wood though as it gives the screw something to cut a thread into...
best of luck
a
Love is the law.
analytic
503 posts
Location: bristol
503 posts
Location: bristol
Posted:
one fowl swoop?
doesn't that hurt the chicken?
one fowl swoop?
doesn't that hurt the chicken?
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Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Posted:
yeah, maybe i should get a real drill...
yeah, maybe i should get a real drill...
Love is the law.
newbie
14 posts
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CAN
14 posts
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CAN
Posted:
I've got access to a drill press so maintaining verticality (favourite line from a Simpons' show was the Don King impersonation looking for a pugalist who can maintain verticality for 30 seconds) of the drill bit isn't a tough task. And with a countersink / awl to start the pilot hole on the metal I should be okay.
I tried one before, but wanted to make it out of wood entirely and the double-threaded screw system I used didn't work good at all. First attempt didn't hold, second attempt held but was not angled perfectly centered. Plus wasn't strong enough to handle even a couple of drops.
Most of my technical skills have a limited shelf-life as 'proof of concept' creations. Other than my 5-frequency geodesic dome though. That baby is an engineering masterpiece!
I've got access to a drill press so maintaining verticality (favourite line from a Simpons' show was the Don King impersonation looking for a pugalist who can maintain verticality for 30 seconds) of the drill bit isn't a tough task. And with a countersink / awl to start the pilot hole on the metal I should be okay.
I tried one before, but wanted to make it out of wood entirely and the double-threaded screw system I used didn't work good at all. First attempt didn't hold, second attempt held but was not angled perfectly centered. Plus wasn't strong enough to handle even a couple of drops.
Most of my technical skills have a limited shelf-life as 'proof of concept' creations. Other than my 5-frequency geodesic dome though. That baby is an engineering masterpiece!
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Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Posted:
nice one fire doll, i love the proof of concept creations
have you played around with any hoop baton ideas?
im trying to think of a way to let the staff rotate along its own axis while its attached to a hoop.
the you can do hoop steves
nice one fire doll, i love the proof of concept creations
have you played around with any hoop baton ideas?
im trying to think of a way to let the staff rotate along its own axis while its attached to a hoop.
the you can do hoop steves
Love is the law.
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Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
Posted:
1 inch thick swivels?
1 inch thick swivels?
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"the still legendary" - Kaskade
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Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Posted:
i was thinking t-connectors facing in. bit of oil maybe. or a fixed stick with a rotating barrell around it. like mechs flags.
you could just rotate the t-connectors to the outside and put fire on em if you wanted a solo hoop again.
a hoop staff seperation/joining move would be most tasty. but also very silly.
i was thinking t-connectors facing in. bit of oil maybe. or a fixed stick with a rotating barrell around it. like mechs flags.
you could just rotate the t-connectors to the outside and put fire on em if you wanted a solo hoop again.
a hoop staff seperation/joining move would be most tasty. but also very silly.
Love is the law.
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Carpal \'Tunnel
6,207 posts
Location: "In your ear", United Kingdom
Carpal \'Tunnel
6,207 posts
Location: "In your ear", United Kingdom
Posted:
so you wnat to put a hoop on a stick, like nate was doing, but remove the tape, and have it done correctly
but you also wnat to be able to remove the hoop to either use as a hoop or fire staff, is that right?
want me to have a think, see what i can do?¬
so you wnat to put a hoop on a stick, like nate was doing, but remove the tape, and have it done correctly
but you also wnat to be able to remove the hoop to either use as a hoop or fire staff, is that right?
want me to have a think, see what i can do?¬
Step (el-nombrie)
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Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Posted:
cool
cool
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newbie
14 posts
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CAN
14 posts
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CAN
Posted:
I'll nod my head in agreement like I know what you mean ;P
I'll nod my head in agreement like I know what you mean ;P
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Carpal \'Tunnel
6,207 posts
Location: "In your ear", United Kingdom
Carpal \'Tunnel
6,207 posts
Location: "In your ear", United Kingdom
Posted:
would you wnat the staff to have wicks on as well?
would you wnat the staff to have wicks on as well?
Step (el-nombrie)
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Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Posted:
it would be over kill
so yes
it would be over kill
so yes
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Watcher of 80s cartoons
665 posts
Location: Chepstow & Bristol, United Kingdom
Watcher of 80s cartoons
665 posts
Location: Chepstow & Bristol, United Kingdom
Posted:
Interesting - what about a staff with walking stick handle style hooks on the end?
Interesting - what about a staff with walking stick handle style hooks on the end?
>What do you think about the state of the Earth?
>I'm optimistic.
>So why do you look so sad?
>I'm not sure that my optimism is justified.
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Carpal \'Tunnel
6,207 posts
Location: "In your ear", United Kingdom
Carpal \'Tunnel
6,207 posts
Location: "In your ear", United Kingdom
Posted:
to what end, g?
to what end, g?
Step (el-nombrie)
Sometimes sword wofter
199 posts
Location: Edinburgh
199 posts
Location: Edinburgh
Posted:
You can buy staffs from te POOKa at https://www.tepooka.org/toys.htm
the pictures are accurate but the information on the page is out of date so if you want details about prices and stuff drop us an email at toy@tepooka.org
You can buy staffs from te POOKa at https://www.tepooka.org/toys.htm
the pictures are accurate but the information on the page is out of date so if you want details about prices and stuff drop us an email at toy@tepooka.org
IMPORTANT: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of a sane person.
"just get the f**k on with it and make me the anti-christ already!"
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Carpal \'Tunnel
6,207 posts
Location: "In your ear", United Kingdom
Carpal \'Tunnel
6,207 posts
Location: "In your ear", United Kingdom
Posted:
you ca buy staffs really from most of the staff performers
myself
rob (pooka)
strugz
ado-p
there are quite a few, nice selections
rob sticks are light, and slick and sexy
ado-p are nice a thin to
mine are around mid weight, but can be anyweight, thin and sleek, or heavy as a rock
strugz, are nice and weighty!
you ca buy staffs really from most of the staff performers
myself
rob (pooka)
strugz
ado-p
there are quite a few, nice selections
rob sticks are light, and slick and sexy
ado-p are nice a thin to
mine are around mid weight, but can be anyweight, thin and sleek, or heavy as a rock
strugz, are nice and weighty!
Step (el-nombrie)
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Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Posted:
my staffs are pook sticks
i have a few others too. my practise staff was made by a freind at home here.
gotta love the pooks though, highly recommended.
my staffs are pook sticks
i have a few others too. my practise staff was made by a freind at home here.
gotta love the pooks though, highly recommended.
Love is the law.
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Carpal \'Tunnel
6,207 posts
Location: "In your ear", United Kingdom
Carpal \'Tunnel
6,207 posts
Location: "In your ear", United Kingdom
Posted:
do you mean the sticks you had at ed where pook sticks?
do you mean the sticks you had at ed where pook sticks?
Step (el-nombrie)
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Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Posted:
Yep
Yep
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Carpal \'Tunnel
6,207 posts
Location: "In your ear", United Kingdom
Carpal \'Tunnel
6,207 posts
Location: "In your ear", United Kingdom
Posted:
buy you said they where mild steel
the ones with the tennia balls on them?
buy you said they where mild steel
the ones with the tennia balls on them?
Step (el-nombrie)
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Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Posted:
ah no, that was made right here at home. as it says above....
i've only got one of those though. and its in for a service at the moment because i dont know how to treat it right.
my 1.5m doubles are pooks.
ah no, that was made right here at home. as it says above....
i've only got one of those though. and its in for a service at the moment because i dont know how to treat it right.
my 1.5m doubles are pooks.
Love is the law.
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Carpal \'Tunnel
6,207 posts
Location: "In your ear", United Kingdom
Carpal \'Tunnel
6,207 posts
Location: "In your ear", United Kingdom
Posted:
ahhh ok
ill make some more staffs soon(ish) and then start posting pictures of them
mainly as im far to slack to take pics of them when i make them, they dont come out to good!
ahhh ok
ill make some more staffs soon(ish) and then start posting pictures of them
mainly as im far to slack to take pics of them when i make them, they dont come out to good!
Step (el-nombrie)
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old hand
929 posts
Location: Oregon, USA
old hand
929 posts
Location: Oregon, USA
Posted:
I'm not exactly a high class spinner, and rarely touch a staff but maybe I'll have to give it a think...
I'm not exactly a high class spinner, and rarely touch a staff but maybe I'll have to give it a think...
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