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FireDollJamie
FireDollJamie

newbie
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CAN
Member Since: 4th Nov 2004
Total posts: 14
Posted:Hey,

I've had a friends aluminum 5' staff for a few years and done ok with it, but the center joint is not good, requires duct tape to attach, and is a little light for my tastes. Would like to buy one that's a little heavier and made from better materials.

Seeing a lot of people talk about having got new staffs, or made new staffs, but nothing as to where they are getting 'em from. If you have web links for places that people are making / buying their staffs could you post 'em here?

Ottawa is rather lacking in places to support my learning to spin.


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analytic
Location: bristol
Member Since: 15th Sep 2004
Total posts: 503
Posted:1. durbs

2. home-made is best

3. www.fuckinggoogleit.com

4. um, HoP sells stuff . . .


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FireDollJamie
FireDollJamie

newbie
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CAN
Member Since: 4th Nov 2004
Total posts: 14
Posted:Thanks for the snarkyness, 'preciate it!

I have google'd it and other than bearclaw I haven't really seen anything that has appealed to me, but do not have the tools / skills necessary to make what I have in mind. A friends' friend made one that I would have liked (for her) but isn't making them anymore.

Hence asking the other people here on HOP.


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Lavatwilight
Lavatwilight

old hand
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
Member Since: 11th Aug 2004
Total posts: 834
Posted:jamie, i am going to be in ottawa, in july, spin some time?

will have to make my self a pair of staves when i am there, so could maybe help you out smile


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FireDollJamie
FireDollJamie

newbie
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CAN
Member Since: 4th Nov 2004
Total posts: 14
Posted:Definately like that idea! Ottawa has some great parks to spin in with great background for photos. (Major's Hill Park, Astrolab and Art Gallery grounds, etc)

I've always *wanted* to light up off the eternal flame in front of our parliament buildings. I say *wanted* because I've since found out there are snipers in hiding spots watching the grounds 24 x 7 so that one has taken a back seat for a while.

My e-mail is on my bio page. When you get your schedule confirmed, drop me a line and can plan it out from there.


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analytic
Location: bristol
Member Since: 15th Sep 2004
Total posts: 503
Posted:'pologies for the snarkyness, i guess it must have been late

making staves is pretty easy; you just need some metal, some wick, a drill, and a few self-tapping screws

internal dowelling and grip is optional [but recommended]

oh, and something to clamp the metal, I suppose - although I've drilled aluminium before using my foot to keep it in place.


seriously, though, don't overestimate how difficult it is. give it a go.


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Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland
Member Since: 13th May 2004
Total posts: 3882
Posted:i've found that an open thick old book is a very handy mount for drilling round things on.

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analytic
Location: bristol
Member Since: 15th Sep 2004
Total posts: 503
Posted:that strikes me as a good idea

chrome steel is pretty hard to get the drill going on, though - you'll find it slides off quite easily. shouldn't have the same problem with aluminium, though.

if you use steel, best bet is to clamp a wooden block on top of the staff and drill through the block; the block acts as a guide, and makes sure that the drill bit stays perpendicular to the long axis of the staff.


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Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland
Member Since: 13th May 2004
Total posts: 3882
Posted:wrap the kevlar around the staff first. Tape it on tot he pole and Glue it in place with pva glue (white glue) before you wrap it around.



fold back about an inch of the wick when underneath to stop fraying (cover it in glue first) then wrap masking tape around the whole wick. this stops the wick catching on the drill bit



drill straight through the tape, wick, ali and dowel in one fowl swoop. makes a nice handy hole for the screw straight through the wick.



getting the tape of the wick is a very frustrating experience. i found out completly by accident that if you soak it in parrafin first the glue disolves and the tape just falls off.



dont go to far through the wood though as it gives the screw something to cut a thread into...



best of luck



a


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analytic
Location: bristol
Member Since: 15th Sep 2004
Total posts: 503
Posted:one fowl swoop?

doesn't that hurt the chicken?


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Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland
Member Since: 13th May 2004
Total posts: 3882
Posted:yeah, maybe i should get a real drill...

smile


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FireDollJamie
FireDollJamie

newbie
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CAN
Member Since: 4th Nov 2004
Total posts: 14
Posted:I've got access to a drill press so maintaining verticality (favourite line from a Simpons' show was the Don King impersonation looking for a pugalist who can maintain verticality for 30 seconds) of the drill bit isn't a tough task. And with a countersink / awl to start the pilot hole on the metal I should be okay.

I tried one before, but wanted to make it out of wood entirely and the double-threaded screw system I used didn't work good at all. First attempt didn't hold, second attempt held but was not angled perfectly centered. Plus wasn't strong enough to handle even a couple of drops.

Most of my technical skills have a limited shelf-life as 'proof of concept' creations. Other than my 5-frequency geodesic dome though. That baby is an engineering masterpiece!


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Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland
Member Since: 13th May 2004
Total posts: 3882
Posted:nice one fire doll, i love the proof of concept creations wink

have you played around with any hoop baton ideas?

im trying to think of a way to let the staff rotate along its own axis while its attached to a hoop.

the you can do hoop steves smile


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mcp
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Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:1 inch thick swivels?

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Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland
Member Since: 13th May 2004
Total posts: 3882
Posted:i was thinking t-connectors facing in. bit of oil maybe. or a fixed stick with a rotating barrell around it. like mechs flags.

you could just rotate the t-connectors to the outside and put fire on em if you wanted a solo hoop again.

a hoop staff seperation/joining move would be most tasty. but also very silly.


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mech
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: "In your ear"
Member Since: 9th Jun 2003
Total posts: 6207
Posted:so you wnat to put a hoop on a stick, like nate was doing, but remove the tape, and have it done correctly

but you also wnat to be able to remove the hoop to either use as a hoop or fire staff, is that right?

want me to have a think, see what i can do?


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Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland
Member Since: 13th May 2004
Total posts: 3882
Posted:cool smile

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FireDollJamie
FireDollJamie

newbie
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CAN
Member Since: 4th Nov 2004
Total posts: 14
Posted:I'll nod my head in agreement like I know what you mean ;P

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Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: "In your ear"
Member Since: 9th Jun 2003
Total posts: 6207
Posted:would you wnat the staff to have wicks on as well?

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Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland
Member Since: 13th May 2004
Total posts: 3882
Posted:it would be over kill

so yes

smile


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Gelfling
Gelfling

Watcher of 80s cartoons
Location: Chepstow & Bristol
Member Since: 7th Jul 2004
Total posts: 665
Posted:Interesting - what about a staff with walking stick handle style hooks on the end?

>What do you think about the state of the Earth?
>I'm optimistic.
>So why do you look so sad?
>I'm not sure that my optimism is justified.

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mech
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: "In your ear"
Member Since: 9th Jun 2003
Total posts: 6207
Posted:to what end, g?

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Zauberdach
Zauberdach

Sometimes sword wofter
Location: Edinburgh
Member Since: 10th Mar 2005
Total posts: 199
Posted:You can buy staffs from te POOKa at http://www.tepooka.org/toys.htm
the pictures are accurate but the information on the page is out of date so if you want details about prices and stuff drop us an email at toy@tepooka.org


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mech
mech

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: "In your ear"
Member Since: 9th Jun 2003
Total posts: 6207
Posted:you ca buy staffs really from most of the staff performers

myself
rob (pooka)
strugz
ado-p

there are quite a few, nice selections

rob sticks are light, and slick and sexy

ado-p are nice a thin to

mine are around mid weight, but can be anyweight, thin and sleek, or heavy as a rock

strugz, are nice and weighty!


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Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland
Member Since: 13th May 2004
Total posts: 3882
Posted:smile

my staffs are pook sticks

i have a few others too. my practise staff was made by a freind at home here.

gotta love the pooks though, highly recommended.


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mech
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: "In your ear"
Member Since: 9th Jun 2003
Total posts: 6207
Posted:do you mean the sticks you had at ed where pook sticks?

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Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland
Member Since: 13th May 2004
Total posts: 3882
Posted:Yep smile

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mech
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: "In your ear"
Member Since: 9th Jun 2003
Total posts: 6207
Posted:buy you said they where mild steel

the ones with the tennia balls on them?


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Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland
Member Since: 13th May 2004
Total posts: 3882
Posted:ah no, that was made right here at home. as it says above....

i've only got one of those though. and its in for a service at the moment because i dont know how to treat it right.

my 1.5m doubles are pooks.


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Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: "In your ear"
Member Since: 9th Jun 2003
Total posts: 6207
Posted:ahhh ok

ill make some more staffs soon(ish) and then start posting pictures of them

mainly as im far to slack to take pics of them when i make them, they dont come out to good!


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Lurch
Lurch

old hand
Location: Oregon
Member Since: 1st Nov 2003
Total posts: 929
Posted:I'm not exactly a high class spinner, and rarely touch a staff but maybe I'll have to give it a think...

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