"So Miss, I think you win the prize... A mormon egyptologist in a firespinning chat room... that's gotta be a record of some kind"
-NYC
Thanks, NYC,but I quit mormonism now XD
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Written by: onewheeldave
Maybe one way to look at it is to reflect that, in the west, we pretty much have one word to cover 'snow'- we don't need more because we don't get much snow.
An eskimo could have forty words to describe different types of snow- he/she needs that because snow is a major part of their world, and understanding it to that fine degree is a matter of survival.
"Moo," said the happy cow.
Written by: coleman
nyc - how did you hope this would work out?
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Written by: coleman
incidentally, i think many of those views you were looking for from the 'firespinners' have been expressed in the past
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
Written by: spiralx
Eskimos don't have 40 words for snow - that's an urban myth And we certainly have more than one - snow, sleet, slush and if you include all kinds of frozen water we've got tons.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: NYCWritten by: coleman
nyc - how did you hope this would work out?
Easy, I'd hoped the glowstickers would have said:
"I see that there are many different aspects within the community that I had prevously just called 'poi'. Because I have worked so hard establishing glowsticking as an independant art form, I will certainly respect the many differences WITHIN the different aspects of spinning weights on strings and encorporate glowsticking as one of those categories. Within the glowsticking community there are a wide range of spinners, some of whom are extremely different than the fire poi spinners by incorporating tremendous wrap combos, and some of whom are almost indistingushable from fire poi style spinners, like Kael and Ravergirl. By encouraging growth in areas that the firespinners are not researching WHILE STILL embrasing the smilarities and welcoming crossover from the fire community we can encourage exponential growth and harmony. Peace, Love, UNITY and RESPECT."
And that the firespinners would say something like:
"Holy crap, those videos are amazing. Some of those guys are doing stuff we hadn't even dreamed of. The glowsticking community has a tremendous weath of technical knowledge in areas that are untouched by firespinners. Since the glowstickers have adopted so many basic poi moves in such a different direction I wonder if we couldn't learn by seeing which techniques could crossover to fire. While it's apparent that all moves are not practical to transfer to fire, the theories behind these moves are absolutely transferable. The presentation, performance, and flow of glowsticking videos is very different than that of most firespinning videos. I wonder if we couldn't learn a great deal not only from what the differences are, but why they came about."
But instead I feel that we resolved that:
"You are not us. We are not you. Don't use what we call what we do to describe what you do. Stay off our lawn and we'll stay off yours."
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Spherculism ~:~ The Act of becoming Spherculish.
Written by: onewheeldave
To me, NYC, that is precisely the viewpoint of someone who's actually perpetuating seperatism/hostility.
Those of us who see poi and GS as different also have lot's of respect for the two arts, and the two communities.
i.e. we're saying, GS is a seperate art, that's totally OK, let's see what we can learn from each other.
Whereas your statement above sounds like- 'what a wasted opportunity! If only everyone would agree (with me) that GS is a sub-set of poi, then we could all get together and respect/share- BUT, seeing as we're not going to agree that GS is a sub-set of poi, then we have to distance ourselves from each other.'
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
ture na sig
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
Written by: NYC
I specifically stated that I do not think that Glowsticking is a subsection of Poi.
Perhaps you're confusing me with someone else.
Written by: NYC
But instead I feel that we resolved that:
"You are not us. We are not you. Don't use what we call what we do to describe what you do. Stay off our lawn and we'll stay off yours."
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
ture na sig
Written by: NYC
......we resolved that:
"You are not us. We are not you. Don't use what we call what we do to describe what you do. Stay off our lawn and we'll stay off yours."
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
ture na sig
"So Miss, I think you win the prize... A mormon egyptologist in a firespinning chat room... that's gotta be a record of some kind"
-NYC
Thanks, NYC,but I quit mormonism now XD
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
Written by: onewheeldave
I see the thread as positive.
For most of us here, this has been a fresh issue, I think that's clear from the number of posters who are totally bewildered about what the issue actually is, and why it's so emotive.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
To do: More Firedrums 08 video?
Wildfire/US East coast fire footage
LA/EDC glow/fire footage
Fresno fire
Written by: onewheeldave
But sleet and slush aren't 'snow'.
"Moo," said the happy cow.
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
--
Help! My personality got stuck in this signature machine and I cant get it out!
Written by: spiralxWritten by: onewheeldave
But sleet and slush aren't 'snow'.
Near enough - nobody is going to have a bunch of different words for exactly the same thing are they?
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood