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Posted:
does anyone do african drumming in the uk that want to jam at the next big meet?
does anyone do african drumming in the uk that want to jam at the next big meet?
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if not i will just become a MI5 agent !!!
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Posted:
given what was said earlier about buying a decent djembe, I know a lovely person who imports them to the UK from Senegal, send me a PM if you want contact details..
given what was said earlier about buying a decent djembe, I know a lovely person who imports them to the UK from Senegal, send me a PM if you want contact details..
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ooh yes, and while we're on shameless plugs, I also know somebody who imports, they also sell Kambala Djembe's aswell!
Ditto on the PM thingy!
ooh yes, and while we're on shameless plugs, I also know somebody who imports, they also sell Kambala Djembe's aswell!
Ditto on the PM thingy!
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Posted:
Not African, Peruvian, and not even playing Peruvian style...
But here's a video of me and my Cajon anyway.
Very right-hand dominant I know, and kept getting stuck in rhythm ruts too.
Not African, Peruvian, and not even playing Peruvian style...
But here's a video of me and my Cajon anyway.
Very right-hand dominant I know, and kept getting stuck in rhythm ruts too.
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I got a wondrful 8" Toca Djembe from my local music store on sale from 150.00 (American Dollars) down to 60.00. I was thrilled and I do
my djembe!!!
Oh...I play Elemental, Bolon, and Nigerian Rhythms.
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I got a wondrful 8" Toca Djembe from my local music store on sale from 150.00 (American Dollars) down to 60.00. I was thrilled and I do
my djembe!!!Oh...I play Elemental, Bolon, and Nigerian Rhythms.
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Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted:
I have no drumming experience to speak of, but I want to discover the rhythm of my soul...
What is a good resource to look at?
I have no drumming experience to speak of, but I want to discover the rhythm of my soul...
What is a good resource to look at?
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Posted:
Get a drum and start with your heartbeat...
The other resource is right at your fingertips...
Google-oogle!!!
Get a drum and start with your heartbeat...
The other resource is right at your fingertips...
Google-oogle!!!
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Location: Berlin, Ireland
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Posted:
If you're interested in african music / drumming, try djembefola.com
Written by:
What is a good resource to look at?
If you're interested in african music / drumming, try djembefola.com
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Posted:
oo cajon...
I love learning about all these instruments...
I just got a yirdaki (didgeridoo). It's a really cheep crappy bamboo one, but it's somehting to learn on to see if i consider myself good enough to blow some money on a nice one.
oo cajon...
I love learning about all these instruments...
I just got a yirdaki (didgeridoo). It's a really cheep crappy bamboo one, but it's somehting to learn on to see if i consider myself good enough to blow some money on a nice one.
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Cajon's do indeed rock
Cajon's do indeed rock
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Posted:
I'm looking at getting a djembe...anywhere in melb that sells them cheaply/reasonably?
I'm looking at getting a djembe...anywhere in melb that sells them cheaply/reasonably?
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Pirate Ninja
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Location: Galway/Ireland
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Posted:
Im selling a djembe.
Its in ireland though...
Its also a savage drum
Im selling a djembe.
Its in ireland though...
Its also a savage drum
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Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland (UK)
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Posted:
How much are you selling it for Aidan?
I might buy it...
How much are you selling it for Aidan?
I might buy it...
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Posted:
There's a place called voyeur rhythm or something to that effect that sell djembes in Melbourne. What's that trendy area with all the cafe's? That's where it is....
I'm also selling djembes
I liked your video btw durbs!
There's a place called voyeur rhythm or something to that effect that sell djembes in Melbourne. What's that trendy area with all the cafe's? That's where it is....
I'm also selling djembes
I liked your video btw durbs!
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Posted:
Cheers dude
I've gotten in contact with a cajoinsta to learn some proper flamenco rhythms - but until then, drum n' bass and hip-hop all the way
Cheers dude
I've gotten in contact with a cajoinsta to learn some proper flamenco rhythms - but until then, drum n' bass and hip-hop all the way
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I'll happy if I can get two hundred euros for it. Let me know as soon as you can though as i'llbe heading to limerick this weekend and will most likely sell it there. If you want it, i'll hold onto it for you though.
Oi James!, *Slap...*
Great website dude :huh: Greeting to you and bisous for your lovely lady
I'll happy if I can get two hundred euros for it. Let me know as soon as you can though as i'llbe heading to limerick this weekend and will most likely sell it there. If you want it, i'll hold onto it for you though.
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Great website dude :huh: Greeting to you and bisous for your lovely lady
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Posted:
Nice one.
*pulls Ado's finger*
Nice one.
*pulls Ado's finger*
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Posted:
Hey durbs, I can't really remember your vid well enough and can't check it again from here....
Do you play 6/8 time? This may explain why you struggle sometimes with african drummers playing traditionaly stuff and you have to swap leading hands...
Hey durbs, I can't really remember your vid well enough and can't check it again from here....
Do you play 6/8 time? This may explain why you struggle sometimes with african drummers playing traditionaly stuff and you have to swap leading hands...
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Posted:
Yeah, I've been playing for 12 years, so time signatures aren't a problem, anything from 2/4 - 12/8 including odd numbers
Although sad techy note - 12/8 was primarily created to ease notation in scores. It can always be written as 4/4 only you have to cross the group of 3 semi-quavers to mark them as triplet count - whereas if you switch to 12/8 you can just leave them as semi's..
I'm still very right hand dominated - but can (and do!) play with left hand leads or swaps - 9's are fun for this.
It's more the wierd placements of notes that confuse me... If you search YouTube for "Peruviano cajon" there's a couple of dudes playing Afro-Peruvian cajon and there, I can find the pulse but still don't "get" the placement of lots of the hits. Same as Indian music...
I'm just too classically trained damnit
Yeah, I've been playing for 12 years, so time signatures aren't a problem, anything from 2/4 - 12/8 including odd numbers
Although sad techy note - 12/8 was primarily created to ease notation in scores. It can always be written as 4/4 only you have to cross the group of 3 semi-quavers to mark them as triplet count - whereas if you switch to 12/8 you can just leave them as semi's..
I'm still very right hand dominated - but can (and do!) play with left hand leads or swaps - 9's are fun for this.
It's more the wierd placements of notes that confuse me... If you search YouTube for "Peruviano cajon" there's a couple of dudes playing Afro-Peruvian cajon and there, I can find the pulse but still don't "get" the placement of lots of the hits. Same as Indian music...
I'm just too classically trained damnit
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https://www.paulnas.eu/wap/
is a great resource for learning and understanding west african rhythms.
You do need to get out of a reliance on the "ONE" as this is not the big issue as in european music . many of the parts start in staggered positions.
https://www.paulnas.eu/wap/
is a great resource for learning and understanding west african rhythms.
You do need to get out of a reliance on the "ONE" as this is not the big issue as in european music . many of the parts start in staggered positions.
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as i said i'm more of a dumbek person then a djembe person, most of that is becasue i like the odd time signatures... I love this one rythem called samai, it's 10/8 and there's a doum beat on 1, 6, and 7. everywhere else it's some tek's and ka's.
as i said i'm more of a dumbek person then a djembe person, most of that is becasue i like the odd time signatures... I love this one rythem called samai, it's 10/8 and there's a doum beat on 1, 6, and 7. everywhere else it's some tek's and ka's.
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Yes the WAP pages are great
I just want to make sure we understand each other durbs because all the signitures you have mentioned "2/4 - 12/8" are in 4.
When you say 9 do you mean 9/8?
What I'm taking, some people refer to as triplets.
1&a2&a3&a4&a
Like Djembe 1 on this rhythm
The pulse is definitely important, though it may move about a bit instead of a bell setting something in stone.
It's just that a lot of djembe accompaniment and expecially solo aren't keeping the pulse.
With regard to solo placement I can definitely see where it may get mad as it's common to play 6/8 over 4/4 like Djembé Solo 2 frase1 here.
Or even better
search for "See the next two lines together and take an interval before proceding " on this page.
We can see a phrase that is 6/8 placed in 4/4 so that it repeats every 3 pulses.
Usually 4/4 or 6/8 will define a phrase and / or rhythm pretty well, but solos especially can "swing" between them and make it impossible to tab or define.
That's where the microtiming this - Nyx linked to comes in (which is different to this idea of playing 6/8 or 4/4 and visa versa).
Swing is 1 type of this mico-timing (in my unprofessional opinion) term basically means to play a phrase, such that the the notes move toward the end of th phrase, and they are kinda sqeezed in at the end while keeping a simlar ratio or time difference between them somehow 
Yes the WAP pages are great
I just want to make sure we understand each other durbs because all the signitures you have mentioned "2/4 - 12/8" are in 4.
When you say 9 do you mean 9/8?
What I'm taking, some people refer to as triplets.
1&a2&a3&a4&a
Like Djembe 1 on this rhythm
The pulse is definitely important, though it may move about a bit instead of a bell setting something in stone.
It's just that a lot of djembe accompaniment and expecially solo aren't keeping the pulse.
With regard to solo placement I can definitely see where it may get mad as it's common to play 6/8 over 4/4 like Djembé Solo 2 frase1 here.
Or even better
search for "See the next two lines together and take an interval before proceding " on this page.
We can see a phrase that is 6/8 placed in 4/4 so that it repeats every 3 pulses.
Usually 4/4 or 6/8 will define a phrase and / or rhythm pretty well, but solos especially can "swing" between them and make it impossible to tab or define.
That's where the microtiming this - Nyx linked to comes in (which is different to this idea of playing 6/8 or 4/4 and visa versa).
Swing is 1 type of this mico-timing (in my unprofessional opinion) term basically means to play a phrase, such that the the notes move toward the end of th phrase, and they are kinda sqeezed in at the end while keeping a simlar ratio or time difference between them somehow
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Posted:
Ah - the old "super-imposed metric modulation" eh?
Lots of fun
(And yes, generally I mean x/4 or x/8 - 4/9 would be REALLY hard )
[Pointless side note]I'd never count a triplet as "1&a" - as this is the same as "1&a" as 16ths with a 16th note rest after the 1 - I count triplets as "1-trip-let" - at least that's what I tell my pupils and how I've always been taught[/Pointless side note]
Ah - the old "super-imposed metric modulation" eh?
Lots of fun
(And yes, generally I mean x/4 or x/8 - 4/9 would be REALLY hard
)[Pointless side note]I'd never count a triplet as "1&a" - as this is the same as "1&a" as 16ths with a 16th note rest after the 1 - I count triplets as "1-trip-let" - at least that's what I tell my pupils and how I've always been taught
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There is often not a single pulse as such in west african music, more of a tension/ resolution set up with the interaction of the parts
EDITED_BY: jeffhigh (1161132129)
There is often not a single pulse as such in west african music, more of a tension/ resolution set up with the interaction of the parts
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Do people not find, that generally when playing (not so much in drum circles, more for accompanying spinning/dancing with a couple of drums) that dancers get confused by odd time signatures (unless there's a solid dumpf-dumpf-dumpf-dumpf-dumpf which reduces anything to 1/4 )?
Do people not find, that generally when playing (not so much in drum circles, more for accompanying spinning/dancing with a couple of drums) that dancers get confused by odd time signatures (unless there's a solid dumpf-dumpf-dumpf-dumpf-dumpf which reduces anything to 1/4
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People (myself included) definitely enjoy dances to straight 4 stuff whether, spinning dancing or anything...
Tis probably more what we're used to hearing... or maybe a perculiarity of this universe...
People (myself included) definitely enjoy dances to straight 4 stuff whether, spinning dancing or anything...
Tis probably more what we're used to hearing... or maybe a perculiarity of this universe...
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I'd opt for the former
3/4 stuff you just end up waltzing like an idiot
Without a solid bass-pulse with stuff like 7's, 5's and 9's I find people often just lost the rhythm, unless you go James Brown on their asses and just "hit the one" every time
Yay for the internet - managed to track down some nice Afro-Peruvian clavés for my cajon-ing
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I'd opt for the former
3/4 stuff you just end up waltzing like an idiot
Without a solid bass-pulse with stuff like 7's, 5's and 9's I find people often just lost the rhythm, unless you go James Brown on their asses and just "hit the one" every time
Yay for the internet - managed to track down some nice Afro-Peruvian clavés for my cajon-ing
Arse...I closed the tab with the address on.
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