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UCOF
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Posted:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4363075.stm
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What are your opinions on what has been done?


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onewheeldave
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Posted: Written by: ravehead


the thing is, if they only allow it for mediinal use there will STILL be a black market.....................well even if they legalise it the black market will offer cheeper stuff, but the fact is that if it's regulated then people can choose, pay a standard price and get good stuff or pay less from a shady street dealr and get ripped off cool



I appreciate that, I was simply trying to get the two seperate issues distinct.

If you want to support legalisation, you do your cause no good by bringing in the medicine issue, cos that does not require legalising recreational use.


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Posted:yeah i see your point dave, i've gone from smoking shed loads of pot a week to every now and then and only on special occasions. i've been addicted to many substances but in a way it has made me a strongerer persling wink



i just think people should pull their heads out of their areses, get off their soap boxes and get it together. allow US to have the choice rather than being told NO!!!



the world will not end because of legalisation. ok amsterdam is not a role modle but if it was legal in more places in the world other then the dam it would become the"norm" people would get bored of smoking it as you and i have.


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onewheeldave
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Posted:I didn't get 'bored' of it, I faced up to the fact that it was a pointless activity that carried a fair negative toll, impeded personal progress and inhibited freedom.

Shame it took ten years for me to work that out smile

What it comes down to for me, is that if adults wish to use weed, fair enough- but it's a real shame that new generations of kids, through peer pressure and the shameless and innacurate promotion of cannabis as 'cool' or 'liberating', end up also wasting a decade of their lives.

On the issue of legalising it- I've no preference at the moment.

If I thought legalisng the stuff would help less kids get into it, then I would support legalising it.

But there's no real evidence, so I don't have an opinion.

One thing I would say though, is that there's no real evidence showing that it being illegal doesn't keep the usage lower.

If I saw any real degree of responsible use when it comes to the legal drugs like alcohol and cigarettes, then maybe I'd view legalising cannabis in a more positive light.

But I don't.

What I do see, time and again, in both my own life and the lives of that minority who also go 'clean', is the undeniable power of a drug-free life.

The real harm, in my view, of habitual recreational drug use (whether legal or illegal) is that it seems to act as a 'block' when it comes to personal development/progress of any kind.

Yes, some can achieve whilst using, but I'd be happy to bet that, had they been clean, they'd have progressed/achieved far more.


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UCOF
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Great stuff there Dave smile
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The Tea Fairy
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Posted:ditto

I'm generally pro-drecriminalisation/legalisation, but I understand what you're saying Dave. I'm one of the stoners who does still have a fair amount of motivation despite being stoned a fair bit, I have a good job which I do while I'm sober every day, friends, hobbies etc but I do wonder if I could achieve a great deal more if I wasn't sat about being stoned a lot of the time. But I do agree with Ravehead that there should be a choice (well, for adults with a sense of self-responsibility anyway). Either that or alcohol and tobacco should be illegal too.

I find it really interesting looking at these issues. Another point to bear in mind is that as far as legislation goes, there are many options. Abandoning the current approach in the UK wouldn't mean that we have to adopt the same policies as Holland has, many countries in the EU are trying to move away from the criminalisation of cannabis use in different ways:

http://www.drugscope.org.uk/druginfo/evidence-select/cannabislegislative.htm


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JodieAnne


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Posted:ugh when are they just going to legalize it.

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Fire_Moose
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Posted:seriously....in AZ any little bit or parphinalia is a classs 6 felony...lame

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