Forums > Beginner Poi Moves > poi on poi action (THE CHALLENGE OF DOOOOOOOM!!!)
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psi, you suck.good day gentle people of HoP. I would like to share with you the reason for my current frustration with psi. Namely, the challenge of doom... no, sorry: dooooooooooooooOOOOooooooooom!!!
Now I don't like to use so many exclamation marks in one go, so this has really got me going crazy!
The challenge is: hyperloop throw (throwing the poi that comes from underneath), followed by a whip catch throw into a controlled catch at the end.
I can do it.
currently about 1 in every 100. This means it is not controlled. This means I am frustrated.
Anyone else up to the challenge? Go on, share my frustration. Or if you can already do it, put up a vid.... that'd really p!ss me off.
Right, better go practice (in psi's living room so i can break things without remorse hahahahahahaha
)love you really psi
but where's the nutella?!hugs
Lx
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when i practised this, it was about 1 in 2.
x
R
Holistic Spinner (I hope)
645 posts
Location: wishing to be in Rio
grrrrrrararaaaaaarrggggg!!!!!!!see! Look what you've done!!!! Just looooook at all those exclamation maarks and extraneous charactersss!
ggggggrarggg! and other such exclamations of frustration...
but ... but?? you don't use weighted handles?? how do you get the poi to maintain the rotation? ggrgrgagagrgag is all I have to say to you, you lying grunt funting nob neck!
blaaaaaaaaaaaagthghhhhhhhhhhsprurg!
there's nothing quite as fulfilling as a tasty airwrap
if you're full of sh!t, at least you're fertile
"we are all flowers growing in God's garden... and that is why he spreads the sh!t around" - David Byrne
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Location: everywhere
Holistic Spinner (I hope)
645 posts
Location: wishing to be in Rio
dont you smiole at me!
grrrr I cant even type straight....
dont you blow ME kisses...gegrgagraggrag!
I think I have expressed my senitments on this topic quite eloquently.
there's nothing quite as fulfilling as a tasty airwrap
if you're full of sh!t, at least you're fertile
"we are all flowers growing in God's garden... and that is why he spreads the sh!t around" - David Byrne
Flying Water Muppet
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Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
same old laura.
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Classically British
5,689 posts
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Got it on my 6th attempt... then the one after that...
so 2/7 so far
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Pooh-Bah
2,109 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Im at about 1 in 3 or 4.
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We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.
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645 posts
Location: wishing to be in Rio
there's nothing quite as fulfilling as a tasty airwrap
if you're full of sh!t, at least you're fertile
"we are all flowers growing in God's garden... and that is why he spreads the sh!t around" - David Byrne
Pooh-Bah
2,109 posts
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Heres some tips that may help...
- Weighted handles
- Once youre in the suicide air wrap (youre holding one poi with the other just tangled) bounce your hand up and down a little to keep the non-held poi spinning.
- A second bounce should be applied to give the un-held poi the energy needed to be released at the right spot so it can be easily caught.
Let's turn those old bridges we crossed into ashes.
We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.
-Me
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Location: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
i cant do this for sh!t either dont worry
i dont understand some poiple on here, you're all too fncking goood
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Location: austin,tx
uuuugh. i can't do any of this. this sounds WaaaAAAAAaaaay too much like juggling... shudders
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645 posts
Location: wishing to be in Rio
alrightio, thanks for the pointers icon!
- i already do use weighted handles
- had never heard of a suicide airwrap, will have to work on that.
But it wasn't quite what i meant by the trick. The idea is to flick the poi into the air after each single rotation (i'm not trying to be pedantic, i know the principle must be the same), but the trick is to flick the poi from a hyperloop into the air, catch it again on the poi and flick it up again after one rotation into a controlled catch.
respect to everyone who can do this (durbs you always astound me, bluepussy i still think you're lying! go on proooove me wrong!
), I know its not just me being rubbish - this is HARD!It appears to me that there are 3 catches:
1) catching the poi out into a hyperloop throw - i've been making this throw by letting go of the underneath-poi almost as soon as the poi come into contact with one another.... result: underneath poi flies into air with a beautifully controlled rotation and trajectory.
2) catching the poi out of the air - I've realised that the difficulty is the timing for the second catch, you cant just take the poi out of the air whenever you want, you have to time the rotation of the other poi to get the whipcatch (or whip flick is more appropriate) in exactly the right place so the other poi can fly off keenly towards your other hand for the final catch. I've found it works well if I flick the poi from the first catch out to one side (I've been flicking the LH poi out to the RH side) to make a good contact for the second catch/flick.
3) catching the beautifully controlled whipflick back into the awaiting empty hand. And I am one with the world
any more pointers or a better way to do this?
hugs all round....covered in jam mmmmmm
Lx
there's nothing quite as fulfilling as a tasty airwrap
if you're full of sh!t, at least you're fertile
"we are all flowers growing in God's garden... and that is why he spreads the sh!t around" - David Byrne
15,417 posts
Location: South Wales
Im continually getting 7 in 5 of my attempts.
So as you can image, im pretty happy.
645 posts
Location: wishing to be in Rio
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
I just got a really nice combo:
LH hyperloop throw - catch on LH - wibble - propellor - LH hyperloop throw - whip flick - CATCH!!!
sweeeeeeeeeeet! Bet i'll never catch thAt again.
there's nothing quite as fulfilling as a tasty airwrap
if you're full of sh!t, at least you're fertile
"we are all flowers growing in God's garden... and that is why he spreads the sh!t around" - David Byrne
645 posts
Location: wishing to be in Rio
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
I diiiiid! weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! caught it again!!!!!!!
OK, far too many exclamation marks, and posts from me, replying to myself.
Yes, thAt's how cool I really am.
there's nothing quite as fulfilling as a tasty airwrap
if you're full of sh!t, at least you're fertile
"we are all flowers growing in God's garden... and that is why he spreads the sh!t around" - David Byrne
playing the days away
7,263 posts
Location: The Middle lands, United Kingdom
I can get about 3 out of 4 and even finish either spinning same diraction, into butterfly or from stall/into stall.
If you could've found the time this weekend to come up you'd be doing them too by the time you caught your flight home.
Let's relight this forum 
playing the days away
7,263 posts
Location: The Middle lands, United Kingdom
actually no sorry, read your post from 11:13 and it wasn't what I was thinking.
I can do it but it's really hard to control the poi direction once it'd flicked, I'll have a crack later when I'm home.
thinking about it, I'd say try to manipulate them so the poi head (of the poi that stays in your hand) is closer to the handle than the middle of the poi being flicked. Should be a little easier to do it then. But if it's too close to the handle it wont flick and if it's too far it'll be really hard to get direction.
Let's relight this forum
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Location: wishing to be in Rio
yeah, i found its just like doing a propellor, but using the poi instead of a hand. So if you hit the "propellor point" just right you can control the poi in much the same way.
By alternating the speed of rotation/isolating slightly the poi that stays in your hand you can manipulate the speed of rotation for the poi that flicks off.
By varying where you make the contact on the poi that is released (close or far from the handle) you can control the direction in which the poi flies off - but there is only a very small area for vaiation here - too close to handle = poi flung at floor, too far from handle = poi doesn't take flight........ from what icon said, it sounds like you can keep the poi tangled on each other and maintain rotation (suicide airwrap, or I think you could just as happily name that a poi on poi propellor.... makes me happy anyway
)Varying where you make the contact with the poi you keep hold of, as far as I can tell, just varies what the trick looks like. I've found it easiest to make contact between the poihead and midsock! - closer to poihead. But it seems to be just as possible to do the trick using almost any point of contact with the said poi.
theortically, it must be possible to keep flicking the poi into the air and reflicking it every time it comes down. I was having a go at it, but again it is a matter of timing - getting the height and rotation of the "flicked" poi just right so the "held" poi can make one rotation then be in the right place to make contact again. I found you have to flick the poi fairly high to keep it controlled - if you try to keep it low, the held poi has to spin really fast, which in turn makes the flicked poi rotate fast, thus the catch is harder to see/control.
there's nothing quite as fulfilling as a tasty airwrap
if you're full of sh!t, at least you're fertile
"we are all flowers growing in God's garden... and that is why he spreads the sh!t around" - David Byrne
Me
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Location: London/Bristol, United Kingdom
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theortically, it must be possible to keep flicking the poi into the air and reflicking it every time it comes down.
Yep Matt was doing this pretty solidly B4 christmas but never mind it's not your fault your crap (well maybe it is)
p.s. can psi do this or was it just random abuse
Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all C
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old hand
920 posts
Location: New Zealand
"Yep Matt was doing this pretty solidly B4 christmas but never mind it's not your fault your crap (well maybe it is) "
Was I??? I was getting clean (ish) whip catches with my right hand out of weaves. But can't do repetitive whip catches. Haven't had space to practice since my new flat mate moved in. Plus i've been focussing solely on getting my tangles up to speed. Got some killer stuff going on.
As for tangle release >>> whip catch, i remember talking to bluecat about this last summer as being somewhat of a holy grail because it takes the degree of separation from throws and tangles down to zero. Look forward to seeing some in action.
m
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Me
607 posts
Location: London/Bristol, United Kingdom
I swear I saw you getting at least 3 in a row when i came up to visit humm
suppose u would probably know better then me though still am most confused.
anyhow can't you just pretend you can of the sake of insulting Laura
Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all Ct
old hand
920 posts
Location: New Zealand
Oh you were talking in front of the body, i thought you meant BTB
My mistake ~ hell i think that was one of the first moves i ever learnt.joke!!
anyhow T&B, did you know you've been a moderator for weeks and you haven't checked in
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old hand
920 posts
Location: New Zealand
I think what you're thinking of was me practicing to whip catch and then carry on spinning with one 1 whilst the caught poi kinda sits in the tangle. To do this whip catch near the head and cross left to right with the catching poi leading. looks like you're doing a 2 beat tangle (outside / outside) but you're only holding 1 poi.
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Me
607 posts
Location: London/Bristol, United Kingdom
why thankyou does this mean I have to call you Boss.
as for not checking in for week I won't let it happen again Boss
Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all Ct
old hand
920 posts
Location: New Zealand
if you that's the way you like it, but only if i get to call you Biatch
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1,262 posts
Location: Cornwall & Oxford
Ok so i can do the hyperloop release thingy and i can do whip catches... putting them together... that just seems silly...
I must try it!
Aim high and you'll know your limits, aim low and you'll never know how high you could have climbed.
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Location: everywhere
can't do them any more(wrong poi
) still, i did learn infinite suidcides yesterday while trying
(diabolo trick)
Holistic Spinner (I hope)
645 posts
Location: wishing to be in Rio
ha! Tim, you big arsegrunting spankmanker from Derkaderkastan! Ha hahahahaha! and ha! You try me make i look stoopid. it no work. me no stoopid.
All you have achieved is to drive me to succeed, so I can whipcatch your face. Anyway, I'm getting more solid on this trick now. Prepare to get faced.
Face. Biatch.
PS. blaukatze, come on admit it, you never could do it really eh? You might aswell admit that you've never really understood the weave either.
PPS. no psi cant do it either tim, he was just being an arss (not unusual behaviour)
Edit: this post wasn't intended to come out so aggressively!
EDITED_BY: elasta (1109365649)
there's nothing quite as fulfilling as a tasty airwrap
if you're full of sh!t, at least you're fertile
"we are all flowers growing in God's garden... and that is why he spreads the sh!t around" - David Byrne
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Location: Cornwall & Oxford
ok well i did it once! Woo!
Then i didnt attempt it again because i know i wont be able to do it again so now i have 100% success record with this move
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Me
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Location: London/Bristol, United Kingdom
Written by: elasta
me no stoopid.
what your excuse for your hair colour then
Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all Ct
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