wildgirl
newbie
Location: Europe
Member Since: 8th Feb 2005
Total posts: 14
Posted:Hi there,
I just did a search, but most discussions were about ball chains...
I like to see your opinions. Its time for a new pair of poi chains and I think of getting me wire instead of chain. Any experience with that? Anyone? What about SAFETY? Has anyone see a wire fail? (Im gonna buy some here on this site! No more self-made experiments...too many kids around in the audience - and burnable tents ...!!)
The other one I like (thats about what I got now) is the 3mm twist oval chain cords. But mine arent welded, so I like the safety aspect of those I can get here wink
I dont like ball chains, no matter how good they maybe are...but I dont trust them . I can never be sure if there is no frizz inside a ball..and if it will make my poi fly off into the people... I can live pretty good with burning myself...but I dont have the money or insurance to pay if others get burned or worse! frown
Hope to hear some ideas!!! Come on !! smile


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nearly_all_gone
nearly_all_gone

Pooh-Bah
Location: Southampton
Member Since: 3rd Aug 2004
Total posts: 1626
Posted:Chains every time smile Wire is quite restrictive, in my opinion. Plus it kinks.. = bad

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anonomatos
anonomatos

enthusiast
Location: Utrecht [NL]
Member Since: 19th Jan 2005
Total posts: 389
Posted:I'm only a fire-newbie (2 fire swings), so don't trust me... but I can't imagine my firepoi with something else than a steel cable.

It's 2mm thick, highly adjustable (just unscrew the 'clips'), strong (afaik) and VERY light.


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TheBovrilMonkey
TheBovrilMonkey

Liquid Cow
Location: High Wycombe, England
Member Since: 3rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 2629
Posted:My first set of fire poi were cable.
- Once they've kinked they never quite spin right.
- They tear out hair if you wrap somewhere like your arms
- It doesn't take much to break a strand of cable. When that happens you're spinning around a broken piece of wire with 2 very sharp bits that can quite easily slice bits of you open.

Since I've spun with chains, there's no way that I'm going back to any poi made with cables. Not even if they were free.


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Singed Piper (formerly Mark1)
Singed Piper (formerly Mark1)

resident bagpiper
Location: Vermont, USA
Member Since: 12th Jul 2003
Total posts: 342
Posted:done both, use chains... for the love of god, use chains... had a bad experience with an airwrap...

ballchain is my pref


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_Poiboy_
_Poiboy_

bastard child of satan
Location: Raanana, Israel
Member Since: 12th Jan 2004
Total posts: 1113
Posted:ball\oval chains are the best... in a few words...
WIRES SUCK!!
It's very hard to do hyperloops/airwraps with them... and you can't do wraps with them... hurts alot (it can cut your skin...)... and I think they transfer heat if you do buzzsaws


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mtbeer
mtbeer

ARRRR!
Location: Charlotte, NC, USA
Member Since: 11th Aug 2004
Total posts: 529
Posted:Ditto to what the others have said. Your first choice should be ball chain or twisted oval link chain. If you are concerned about safety and longevity then the welded twisted oval link chain is the answer. Ball chain will last for months of spinning but after that it's anyones guess as to when they will fail. Twisted oval link chain is slightly more difficult for hyperloops and does not swivel as well as ball chain. It's basically a tradeoff between performance and observable dependability. Either way (ball chain or oval link) you will have the best poi chains for the job.

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wildgirl
newbie
Location: Europe
Member Since: 8th Feb 2005
Total posts: 14
Posted:Thankyou!! So Ill go again with oval link chains!! wink...welded this time! Actually I fell in love with some Ive seen on here, although theyre more than $ 60!! But looks like they are worth it!! smile
Take care!!


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Lurch
Lurch

old hand
Location: Oregon
Member Since: 1st Nov 2003
Total posts: 929
Posted:Even though you're determined not to make your own, I've got dog choker chain collars on mine, comes in various sizes and still welded and strong.. I'd only spin ballchain on practice poi but thats just because I'm paranoid of catastrophic failure with fire. Stick with the curb chain

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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:Ive had the same ball chain for over a year now. and its tiny. the balls are about 2mm big.



and they are strong.





yes, they have broken when ive been using them, but only after I have accidentally hit one of them on the floor hard.



I love ball chain, and I would go exactly with Bovril on not even using wire cahin even if it was free.

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DoktorSkell
DoktorSkell

addict
Location: Van Diemans Land
Member Since: 11th Jan 2005
Total posts: 475
Posted:

There is also one other thing.

Whatever material you could buy that home of poi endorse (i guess if they sell it they endorse it) wether it be wires or chain or balls.
its going to be good for poi and the rest is up to personal preference.

My personal choice is Stainless steel oval chain. its strong, looks good and is nice and heavy the way i like it.

But please please please use quality equipment especially when working with fire. thats all i will say. at my local spin there are some people that have home made poi with cheep hardware store thin tiny chains with fishing swivels and otherbudget items.

I cannot stress this enough. You are working with FIRE please use good quality equipment and really you cant go wrong


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Lurch
Lurch

old hand
Location: Oregon
Member Since: 1st Nov 2003
Total posts: 929
Posted:That's like going rock climbing with the keychain carabiners..... Stupid, but where theres a way, stupid people will find it.

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Dunc
Dunc

playing the days away
Location: The Middle lands
Member Since: 19th Aug 2003
Total posts: 7263
Posted:stainless steel ball chain is the only way to go....size dependant on head size.

Let's relight this forum ubblove

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DoktorSkell
DoktorSkell

addict
Location: Van Diemans Land
Member Since: 11th Jan 2005
Total posts: 475
Posted:Written by: Dunc

stainless steel ball chain is the only way to go....size dependant on head size.



Maybe i will have to make a ball chain poi set.

I seem to be the only spinner who doesnt use them


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it shines at night but fades too soon
fair luna moon, fair luna bright
forever we dance
we dance under starlight

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