-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
E pluribus unum, baby.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
.All things are beautiful if we take the time to look.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
'The last rays of crimson on the spindle tree as the cerise fruit splits and reveals its orange seeds in a gloriously clashing colour scheme no-one would ever dare to wear'
Euonymous Europeus
Getting to the other side
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
Getting to the other side
'The last rays of crimson on the spindle tree as the cerise fruit splits and reveals its orange seeds in a gloriously clashing colour scheme no-one would ever dare to wear'
Euonymous Europeus
Written by: Pele
As for safety. There are safety requirements that are met. Nets, bags, etc. are not fail safe either, and many aerialist performers have the belief that if it is there they become more laxed and not as precise of a performer, therefore they choose to not use them for shows. It is one of those things that varies, but there is usually a motivation behind it, and again, performers know what they are getting into.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
Getting to the other side
-v-
Wiederstand ist Zwecklos!
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-v-
Wiederstand ist Zwecklos!
Written by: vanize
when we can talk with the animals, we will know we are half way there.
when we can talk with the trees, we will be there.
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Written by: spritie
I think the question should be would you rather have the unfortunate animal be put to sleep or be cared for in a humane fashion? It isn't the circuses fault that some shmoe decided it would be "cool" to have a pet tiger.
I had a dream that my friend had a
strong-bad pop up book,
it was the book of my dreams.
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
Written by: Pele
Ask the questions, please do. But at least get the answers...factual, honest, truthful answers. Not the assumptions that PETA puts out on their propaganda
Written by: Patrick the Bonsai Badger
So why should we believe what's put out there by the circuses and animal acts? They too have an agenda. They are facing growing public knowledge of the abuses that animals have been made to suffer and endure. Just so you and I have the option to watch a lion jump thru a flaming hoop out of fear of the man with the whip!
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And as to captive bred tigers being domesticated??? Are any of your snakes domesticated?
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
Written by: Stone
OWD helmet laws suck, and I really object to "do gooders" interfering in things they know nothing about. Injury rates for motorcyclists actually went down when they repealed helmet laws in California a few years back. And, the introduction of mandatory bicycle helmet laws also introduces the invincibility factor. Let those who ride decide. Which is what I say every time u bring up this argument.
Same with rock climbers who relish in the challenge of climbing without ropes. It's their decision. Humans climb the mountain because it's there. What would the world be like now if the early explorers had listened to the skeptics who said the earth is flat and you will fall off the edge, or if JFK said it was too dangerous to travel to the moon?
Placing people in bubble wrap is not the answer, nor is making ethical decisions about things we know little about.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
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If you knew about animals in Arabic and Greek history, you would know that about tigers. In fact they were used in Chinese courts as well, come to think of it.
Written by: PeleWritten by: Pele
I love how so many people seem to underestimate the intelligence of these animals, and the ability of 1000 pounds with inches of teeth and claws to defend themselves against a hundred pounds of meat.
Are you not in danger of counting yourself among those you deride? Animals are indeed intelligent..so are they not intelligent enough to decide that it is better to placate the little human so as they can be fed, as they cant feed themselves, rather than lash out at little human and then get shot dead?
Who's underestimating the animals intelligence? Not only that but assuming the animal could actually enjoy being manipulated? Does there intellect not instill a sense of pride?
also, do you not see a potential connection between people seeing these animals at circuses and the problem of people wanting to keep such animals as pets? I appreciate the education argument, but theres no guaruntee that your true message will get across, and people will just want to have their own versions of the animals they have just been told about.
People are stupid and daft, and often no amount of deducation can save them from themselves if they decide they want something bad enough.
So, although you may find offence at people who deride animals in circuses, people are entirely entitled to hold a belief that getting animals to perform in the name of entertainment is offensive. That doesnt have to be based on propoganda from some animal rights organisation...just a view of what is acceptable entertainment to them.
Oh, and re the comparison of domestic pets with tamed circus animals...I dont think many people get their pets to perform on cue (unless you qualify house/obedience training as 'performance'). Again, that could be considered cruel.
And finally, legislation in place doesnt stop abuse from taking place. You cant have eyes everywhere.
So im not 'appalled' that people still hold such a concern.
I guess ultimately its a principle of agreeing/disagreeing with animals performing for your benefit.
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