Klowny
Klowny

Disco Inferno
Location: Remote Western Australia Karra...
Member Since: 12th Nov 2004
Total posts: 160
Posted:I had a look in some of the move lists for poi, coz im getting bored with staff, and they are missing a move i heard about from a friend,i am not sure whether he was talkin b.s with the move but he claims it is possible to while swinging the poi above your head to bring them down around your neck then jolt your head and have them unwrap, he said you would need some form of face and neck protection obviously but that the move was possible, im just askin more experienced poi users is this move possible?

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ben-ja-men
ben-ja-men

just lost .... evil init
Location: Adelaide
Member Since: 12th Jun 2003
Total posts: 2474
Posted:i dont do poi but yes its a poi move that gets used in rope dart alot to, couldnt tell u the name though if u have longish chains u can do it with fire but u know its very dangerous nothing like flaming handcuffs round your neck

i think if u read more old posts youll find its in there somewhere smile


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Klowny
Klowny

Disco Inferno
Location: Remote Western Australia Karra...
Member Since: 12th Nov 2004
Total posts: 160
Posted:It just seemed a lil far fetched ya know as cool as it would look, one bad movement and poof you can say good bye to your face

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MikeIcon
MikeIcon

Pooh-Bah
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Member Since: 27th Mar 2003
Total posts: 2109
Posted:Yep, people do it. Its usually referred to as a neck wrap or neck carry.

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Klowny
Klowny

Disco Inferno
Location: Remote Western Australia Karra...
Member Since: 12th Nov 2004
Total posts: 160
Posted:i still say it is facial suicide! but ill try it anyway unlit of course!

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Glåss
Glåss

The Ministry of Manipulation
Location: Bristol
Member Since: 8th Nov 2001
Total posts: 2523
Posted:video: spinning in paris 1 & 2.avi theres one of the versions in there at 3:44 somewhere
I posted it in the videos section
try here:
http://capitolk.com/paris/index.html
br>and its discussed in a very old thread called "The Jedi Set"


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oli
not with cactus
Location: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
Member Since: 24th Jul 2003
Total posts: 2052
Posted:i nearly strangled myself trying one of these moves once.

Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no

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Devilstick_Russell
I like devilstick...
Location: Falmouth
Member Since: 10th May 2004
Total posts: 196
Posted:did you die?

Does this site actually exist? Or am i talking to all my other personalities?

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oli
not with cactus
Location: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
Member Since: 24th Jul 2003
Total posts: 2052
Posted:i thought i might have done, but in the end it was ok smile

Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no

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Devilstick_Russell
I like devilstick...
Location: Falmouth
Member Since: 10th May 2004
Total posts: 196
Posted:phew i had visions of zombie oli sitting at a computer and posting and stuff or maybe you possessed your parents and made them do it or maybe...just maybe...i should shut up.

Does this site actually exist? Or am i talking to all my other personalities?

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Dunc
Dunc

playing the days away
Location: The Middle lands
Member Since: 19th Aug 2003
Total posts: 7263
Posted:I've seen UCOF Jon do this really nicely with meteor and the exit is a flip directly vertical into the air off the neck...sweet! biggrin So if it can be done with meteor it's deffinately doable with two poi, depending how brave you are if it's fire of course. Would recommend practicing unlit wink

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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:Yes yes yes, its true.

Ive seen UCOF do it too in a mirror...

he says you can wrpa them both on the front of your neck when leaning backwards (then proceeding to bend forwards).

and he says you can wrpa them on the back of your neck when leaning forwards (then proceeding to bend backwards)

Thats cos UCOF rocks!

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oli
not with cactus
Location: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
Member Since: 24th Jul 2003
Total posts: 2052
Posted:ucofcough?

Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no

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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:Coughcoughcough.

smile


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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:lozenge?

Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]

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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:offtopic

wink

but yes please.


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Sir_Sheep
Sir_Sheep

old hand
Location: Chester, UK
Member Since: 1st Mar 2003
Total posts: 725
Posted:Jez used to do double neck wraps, among other crazy moves. I think he even did it on fire once. But only the once.

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_khan_
_khan_

old hand
Location: San Francisco, California, USA
Member Since: 17th Nov 2004
Total posts: 768
Posted:Isn't there somebody on COL5 that does these? Heraclitus I think?

taken out of context i must seem so strange
~ ani di franco

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Cody
Cody

That guy from Reno
Location: Reno, Nevada USA
Member Since: 3rd Sep 2003
Total posts: 556
Posted:I do a double (matched) neck wrap with fire often. Most people go into this move from a butterfly and move there head forward and back. I do mine from a weave and move my head in a circle. It's a very smooth move when done right. Be careful of the force applied on your poi. I broke through chain doing a neck wrap and the poi head went flying. That's why I don't trust ball chain.

I do not advise that anyone does this move with fire though. It's probably the most risky move I do. wink


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Medusa
Medusa

veteran
Location: 8 days at Cloudbreak, 6 in Per...
Member Since: 25th Nov 2003
Total posts: 1433
Posted:I think the reason they don't have it in the list of moves is because it is dangerous....

I do this move too....haven't done it lit yet though....too chicken to do it lit...besides that...I like my hair too much.


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Klowny
Klowny

Disco Inferno
Location: Remote Western Australia Karra...
Member Since: 12th Nov 2004
Total posts: 160
Posted:yeah thanx fopr the tips guys much apreciated ill keep at it let ya know if i get it right...doubt it though...

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Dunc
Dunc

playing the days away
Location: The Middle lands
Member Since: 19th Aug 2003
Total posts: 7263
Posted:Written by: Cody
Be careful of the force applied on your poi. I broke through chain doing a neck wrap and the poi head went flying. That's why I don't trust ball chain.




I think it's more of a reflection of attention to chain condition, suitable quality ball chain is more than safe enough to use and you won't be able to overpower it by a simple flick around your neck, ALL CHAIN should be checked thoroughly before each burn. If there's any sign of rust/corrosion (there shouldn't be if you buy decent stainless steel instead of the inferior Nickle plated) you shouldn't spin with them.


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Dunc
Dunc

playing the days away
Location: The Middle lands
Member Since: 19th Aug 2003
Total posts: 7263
Posted:And as for burning yourself, only if you've been careless, haven't practiced properly unlit and don't have the skill to manipulate the move yet, haven't "burnt off" or you aren't protecting you head/hair with a hat or other suitable accessory or perhaps use short chains that you'll have trouble.
You're only putting yourself in danger so if you think and take precautions and practice this move it is only slightly more dangerous than any other that comes close to your head, with the exceptional potential of hot metal touching your skin, but with precautions and common sense this can be avoided too.

keep it real and you'll have no problems, if you don't have the confidence don't attempt it. simple....


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vanize
vanize

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Austin, Texas
Member Since: 21st Aug 2001
Total posts: 3899
Posted:Written by: Dunc

Written by: Cody
Be careful of the force applied on your poi. I broke through chain doing a neck wrap and the poi head went flying. That's why I don't trust ball chain.




I think it's more of a reflection of attention to chain condition, suitable quality ball chain is more than safe enough to use and you won't be able to overpower it by a simple flick around your neck, ALL CHAIN should be checked thoroughly before each burn. If there's any sign of rust/corrosion (there shouldn't be if you buy decent stainless steel instead of the inferior Nickle plated) you shouldn't spin with them.



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Dut
lurker
Location: Nashville, TN
Member Since: 22nd Mar 2002
Total posts: 380
Posted:You can do these in front and behind you. The way I do it, it's a neck double through wrap, technically. The leaning-back one doesn't ever have to have a chain touch my neck -- it can be done with crossed arms so that only your wrists actually touch your neck. I guess that makes it a fake throughwrap, probably, but no one's ever going to notice. ++ you can practice this without leaning your head back. wink it feels kinda weird in there, now that I play with it more. it's like insides for BTH... there's various 'barrel rolls' at least... anything you can do with two sticks and a neck, prolly.



And it's not that bad with fire, though I've only done it a couple of times during one of my last burns. I've seen more ridiculous stuff on fire out of the video section here. Even when I've tangled with practice chains, it's not something that ever got stuck around my head or anything. You're much more likely to maim yourself doing split time inside-outside butterfly wraps or something, if you're like me. ubbloco



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musashii
musashii

starring Skippy the green llama
Location: Seattle, WA
Member Since: 14th Dec 2002
Total posts: 1148
Posted:10 rubber duckies to the person who can do the thru wrap whilst doing a mouth butterfly wink

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