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Richee
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Posted:BTB Fishtailes.



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:R


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borganique
BRONZE Member since Jan 2006

borganique

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Posted:got this halo to behind back take out to behind back twiddle to under other arm front halo i've been trying with doubles for ages. also with behind halos on both waays, but not front...
lots more fishtailing. chronos dream move with 4 sounds nice smile can't get two fishtailing on one hand yet tho, for a start.
juggling clubs lots in wall plane in preparation for when i get round to making stix.
conveyor belt to halo continous, at last.
its great having a room big enough for doubles. might have a vid soonish - i have a new neighbuor with a camara smile smile


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-sandy-
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-sandy-

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Posted:Came up with a great dream move last night that i dont think ill ever get, not really my bag but chrono might like it.

3 staffs, 2 in reverse fihtail while the other does an angel roll. When the angel roll is about to reach the hand, throw the fishtail (in the hand about to catch the angel roll) up at the same time as starting the next angel roll (other fishtailing hand straight to angel) then with your now free hand catch the thrown staff back into fishtail. Repeat.
So basically a 3 staff fountain with fishtails and angel rolls.

Chrono if you can pull this off i will worship the ground you walk on for at least a month biggrin


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Neon_Shaolin
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Posted:ooooh! I like! biggrin The Gaunlet has been thrown...

The question is - is it Chrono's colour...?


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mcp
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Posted:well he did invent the Gay Vertical Steve...

makes me wonder if it's possible horizontally... as if there wasn't enough steve variations...


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LazyAngel
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Posted:I was playing with a antispin buzzsaw fountain t'other day with staff: it's a bit of a headbender, but looks nice I reckon! Makes a kind of eliptical pattern with a smaller eliptical pattern at 90 degrees in the middle. Have to hold my staff fairly close to the end to avoid hitting myself in the head, which gives it the long/short look of a poi buzzsaw hybrid

Usually, done with hands together (to make it easier on the arms0 on a but can be done onehanded to allow for waving your other hands about while going 'look at the pretty fire magic'. Or shaking a fist at the ground while shouting 'Gravity, I defy you!'

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Chronofracture333

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Posted: Written by: mcp



well he did invent the Gay Vertical Steve...



makes me wonder if it's possible horizontally... as if there wasn't enough steve variations...





Did I...? confused Is that the one with the chest step?



@-Sandy- Yep, I too have thought of this move. Long way to go, wish I wasn't so crap frown



Plus the ground I walk on has, this morning at least, partially consisted of fresh dog turd.



ubblol

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mcp
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mcp

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Posted:yup, you KNOW it has to have that name!

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Chronofracture333

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Posted:(Horizontal) + (Roll) + (Gay) + (Angel) ubbidea

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mcp
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mcp

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Posted:HRGA?

That's crap. wink


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Chronofracture333

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Posted:No, that's a fun night in tongue

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mcp
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mcp

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Posted:I was thinking maybe if you do the gay steve horizontally, you'd have to use inside BTB planes. (which since it's horizontal, would be the plane under your leaning-back back.) which would be weird. and possibly with turning / caging, even weirder.



possibly requiring a BTB horizontal low pass, for those who are back-bendy...


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Chronofracture333

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Posted:We'll have to compare notes at theSJC. But if I'm not mistaken about which move I'm performing the gay steve is pretty simple compared to the vertical version. I realize not everyone is as bendy as me though.

For those completely lost. Imagine a chest roll minimum beat steve but with an extra half spin as it crosses the chest. Both vertical and horizontal versions require that you control the half spins start and end using the armpits.


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mcp
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mcp

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Posted:yeah the chest wrap is the bit making it a 'gay' steve.

I was think if you let it do an extra half beat of spin on the upper arm, it would get into a proper chest wrap position. (or if you do the arm roll in a certain way.) When I say proper, I mean one end under your back, the other end crossing your upper arm and going out away from your body, then wrap the chest to the same position on the other side.

That's what I mean by weird in the post above... smile

I'm sure a normal horizontal gay steve would be easier...


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I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Chronofracture333

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Posted:Erm... to do the move you seem to be suggesting I'd need to be hung upsidedown by my feet confused

I can bend that far but there's not enough room between my shoulders and my ass for the staff.

Maybe I've misunderstood, you'll have to use me like an action man when I see you and just put the staff where you think it should go.

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mcp
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mcp

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Posted:damn, well you need more shoulder flexibility anyway... <snap> that's better.

well if it's hard for you with your monkeylike long arms and ridiculous height, as well as proportionally shorter staff, it's gonna be pretty damn difficult for me...

would be cool thou... like, cos it's btb.


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Chronofracture333

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Posted:Ok, I'm the stupid. redface

Just managed to make this work, sort of. trapped in the armpit the staff will do the move. But you do need to be bendy and have a shortish staff. Having it off-center helps for the btb section. Obviously not smooth yet but it's a keeper.

Well spotted. clap

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mcp
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mcp

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Posted:for you: make the fully btb conveyor belt smooth... or do it horizontally or something...

or learn the back half of the meast / hula matrix. biggrin


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Chronofracture333

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Posted:I is your bitch hug

Yep I should really have those by now shouldn't I?


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mcp
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mcp

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Posted:nah, just think up some variations instead, that works too!

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Richee
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Posted:Matrix (front start, right to left),

keep on going,

:R


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anti_fin
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Posted:i know its a really simple move

not really a move at all

but i figured out how to do fishtails today, its been hounding me for nearly a year now


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Chronofracture333

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Posted:biggrin Fishies are cool!

Playing around with gay steves has led to the gay substitution matrix, and also full steves with a chest spin in both halves.

Oooh, and a nice substitution matrix entry from a horizontal angel roll at the opposite shoulder to the starting hand. You can exit the Sub-Matrix at the other shoulder back into the "same" angel roll.

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mcp
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mcp

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Posted:damn, I think we have a really gay new addition to the staff move naming system.

I don't suppose we can change it before you learn the gay snes?

;D


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strugz
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Posted:minimum beat antispun steve........ weird coz i cant do the normal one half as good......

what looks cool (otherwise known as "gay" on these boards) wink is if you drop ya head - stick both arms up in the air (btb) drop to one knee and do this move (thats the gay bit) ....... especially as a burn off....... ( thats the cool bit) ubbloco

looks ninja.... or some sort of finishing pose from tekken...


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Chronofracture333

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Posted: Written by: mcp



yeah the chest wrap is the bit making it a gay steve.







I'd change it but it's more than me jobs worth mate, you'll have to take it up wit' management... tongue



Suggestions?



We can call a chest wrap variation whatever people like really but it's nice to have a short hand way of saying...



"chest wrap entered from steve/upper arm"



"no not that one, the one that makes you look gay..."



Or something. rolleyes



@Strugz:- Cooool!!!



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mcp
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mcp

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Posted:I was thinking about this last night, but due to watching too much battlestar galactica, I was in no fit state to make a coherent post.

firstly: Great idea strugz, shame your gay, so it will take three times as much style to make it cool. wink Yeah totally awesome, but I think you should learn the 'cool' way of kneeling, which is to twist your legs up as you turn and then you end up sat down with your legs twisted under you. Then you should reverse the direction of the staff, do the turning horizontal angel roll again (minimum beat anti-spun steve - say what now?) as you untwist your legs and stand up. Or maybe just do another steve and stand up. Or something. That would be kung fu.

so anyway:

what was I thinking, oh yeah, it's not actually a gay snes, it's a gay jesus.

<cue fundamentalist flame war>


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strugz
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Posted:"A gay jesus"



man theres room for debate somewhere im sure wink



sounds cool meg - the move is hard - well the second part as the staff loves falling down the arm but you eally have to pop your shoulder at the right time to get it to fly up the arm the otherside......... flatting your arm out to make it easie doesnt look as good smile


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mcp
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mcp

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Posted:yeah I find you really have to be aware of the center point, turn at the right speed, and have enough roll to get it back up the second arm. I don't really pop it with my elbow, I always do it from a steve of some kind, and do the quick transfer, rather than the propeller transfer into the second steve, to maintain the roll.

It is an awesome looking move thou. I think it should have it's own name. Nx? suggested Rolls Royce, cos the arms are reminiscent of the wee silver statue on the bonnet. I'm always in favour of calling a move "flying wings" and this move qualifies... maybe we can call the full minimal steve something other than an oxymoron.


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strugz
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Posted:oxymoron.......

dam if we ae going to use the term morons in a move desciption..... maybe we should just call it "the Meg" and for minimum beats....... "the gay Meg" and fordoing the move right....

"The gay meg - with wings"

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mcp
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mcp

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Posted:I'm not gay, I'm crabbity, nippy and acerbic... wink

yeah definitely keeping the arm low helps, I think just have it horizontal and pulled behind you is good, like you is an aeroplane! awwwwww.

You can always lift it at the end... you might have to anyway, to stop it flying off your arm. biggrin Truely, this is an anti-juggler / anti-everyone sort of move to practise... or it was frown now it just works. I'll have to find something harder to kill people standing too close with... biggrin


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