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Richee
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Location: Prague
Member Since: 15th Jan 2002
Total posts: 1841
Posted:BTB Fishtailes.



:],



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TastesLikePurple
TastesLikePurple

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Location: Nottingham
Member Since: 18th Aug 2005
Total posts: 498
Posted:uh oh....

Thoughts arrive like butterflies...


why
not _Y_
Location: Scotland
Member Since: 2nd Mar 2004
Total posts: 720
Posted: Written by: Mynci


 Written by: why



and played with other non-stick-shaped toys too eek



spank bad staffer wink


ouch redface

well... technically a whip is shaped like a (wobbly) tapered staff ubbidea umm


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Mynci
Mynci

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Total posts: 8735
Posted:ubblol floppy staff

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.


why
not _Y_
Location: Scotland
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Total posts: 720
Posted: Written by: poje



 Written by: why



Yay for PLaY...

360 Halo



managed (messy) full steves for 1st time too









Arnt 360 halos effin fun i recently learned those and i LOVE doing em.



yes, but I can't play...

shoulder still dodgy (injury on Sat of PLaY) AND someone else has my sticks eek frown







and tongue for Mynci


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Fireina
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Location: Broomfield, Colorado
Member Since: 14th Aug 2007
Total posts: 143
Posted: Written by: McAlpine


I just learned the 'falling over on wet grass face first into the mud' trick!! biggrin



I learned that one three years ago in an incredible Michael Jackson move that quickly became the stuff of "This one time...at band camp" legend.

I got under-the-leg catches last night off of left-handed tosses! Freakin miracle!


"Watch those explosions in the sky and you'll go blind, but not this time. Will you live in hope or dark desire? What can I say? F*ck love give me fire." ~Cities Of Night by Blaqk Audio (Davey Havok)

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Richee
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Location: Prague
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Posted:Once I pick a staff in vertical position between

hands like prayer, turning around.



Enjoy the rest of holidayz.



lightning,



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Fireina
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Location: Broomfield, Colorado
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Posted:*Cries* I just learned that prayer tosses are impossible on staff. They're just so friggin cool! ubbcrying mad2 ubbcrying

"Watch those explosions in the sky and you'll go blind, but not this time. Will you live in hope or dark desire? What can I say? F*ck love give me fire." ~Cities Of Night by Blaqk Audio (Davey Havok)

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Intala
Intala

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Member Since: 20th Jul 2005
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Posted:what are prayer tosses and why are they impossible on staff?

Practise Harry, practise


Fireina
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Location: Broomfield, Colorado
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Posted:A prayer toss is a form of toss where you hold it at the thirds horizontal and then you go to toss it, sliding one hand to meet the other. On the release you wind up with your hands above your head in a prayer position...hence the name.

The wick means you either have to release early or it goes waaaay off course, and releasing early dosn't look nearly as cool cause it stays too low and totally misses the point of the toss...a high super slow half-rotation that is nearly vertical if done right.


"Watch those explosions in the sky and you'll go blind, but not this time. Will you live in hope or dark desire? What can I say? F*ck love give me fire." ~Cities Of Night by Blaqk Audio (Davey Havok)

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Intala
Intala

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Posted:Ok, is there a vid of it somewhere, because I don't get it.

Practise Harry, practise


Fireina
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Location: Broomfield, Colorado
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Posted:Narp...It's a colour guard toss, so you're not gonna find a vid of it here. *Goes fishing for video on guard web site* I can't embed it here cause it's stupid, but here's the URL.

http://www.legacybands.org/performance/WinterGuard/2004DeadorAlive.html

Hokay so...in the beginning when the flags come out and do all the background work while the rifles are doing all their stuff downstage, watch closely. This is in the first verse part. When the song says, "It's all the same, only the names will change/ every day it seems we're wasting away." On the word "away" the flags do a version of the toss that's back-handed and over-rotated.

Then if you sit for a bit and watch the sidelines for the people getting rifles, you will see the official, normal version of a prayer toss. They'll all move into a line running down the stage left chunk of the floor. As they start to go across the floor, you'll notice them raise their guns, bring them back down, and then when they bring them up again they'll release the toss in a prayer position. That is a prayer toss.


"Watch those explosions in the sky and you'll go blind, but not this time. Will you live in hope or dark desire? What can I say? F*ck love give me fire." ~Cities Of Night by Blaqk Audio (Davey Havok)

Proudly MCRmy


Intala
Intala

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Posted:I don't get it, I'm sorry. I can't isolate the move you're talking about and I can't see what's happening properly as the vid focusses on the group performance as a whole. Awesome performance it is, but I'll go research it some more. Thanks for the trouble.

Practise Harry, practise


simta
simta

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Location: hastings
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Posted:no i couldnt see the prayer toss your on about, jus cos they toss it whilst holding on with both hands doesnt make it a toss from prayer postion

if you want to work out what it is, jus look for any videos of prayer moves, prob be easiest to understand it from a prayer fishtail

think if you were doing a normal fishtail how u can toss from that back into a fishtail, same method for prayer


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-sandy-
-sandy-

old hand
Location: Bristol
Member Since: 12th Jul 2004
Total posts: 716
Posted:ooh ooh new move, yay biggrin

Playing with Ninja Dave yesterday we came up with a new doubles contact move, inside butterfly conveyor belt (as in inside butterfly, not inside planes). After you've placed the staff doing the conveyor in, you need to get the other staff behind you pretty quick to get out. Also thought of a couple of (still theoretical) variations, after you've placed into the conveyor you sould be able to fishtail that staff while spinning 1 beats with the other in the other direction, yay 1 handed butterfly fishtails (almost).

The other one to make it a full conveyor involves throwing the staff in your hand to the other hand at the same time as you place the staff doing the conveyor from hand to hand. Because its in butterfly, the throw is really hard to get the timing right.


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Mynci
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Posted:sounds nice dude... can't wait to see that biggrin

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.


-sandy-
-sandy-

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Location: Bristol
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Posted:Its been a good week for moves, probably cos of the sunshine biggrin

Extending turning halos into horizontal angel rolls and minimum steves (neck side) with 1 beat direction changes at the elbow.
You min steve to the elbow, 1 beat direction change back to H. angel and turn 1/3 circle (like a 360 halo) then 1 beat direction change back to min steve at the other elbow and turn. Repeat.

Managed 1 full revolution so far but they should be continuous.


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Mynci
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Posted:clap

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.


Richee
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Posted:To start turn with cutback from palmspin, rather directly form the forearm.



lightning,



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Fire_Moose
Fire_Moose

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Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Member Since: 2nd May 2007
Total posts: 3597
Posted:I've been dabbling with some inside steave stuff. Let the staff walk down my wrist then forearm then upper arm then start over. also that same inside steve thing but after upper arm bring it over to a neck wrap where i can do back spin or back up the oppisite arm. let me know if that makes sence biggrin

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Flame Boy
Flame Boy

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Location: Out
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Posted:Mag's "Limbo" and can get going straight round the neck onto the back in one fluid rotation.
Im very happy with myself and it looks sick! :-D


AAARRRGGGHHH!!! My giant stick broke!!! In two!!! My stick broke in two!!! ubbcrying


Fire_Moose
Fire_Moose

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Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Total posts: 3597
Posted:So i just got back from a weekend in Oakland, CA. Hanging out with Greg, Noel, Elias, and the rest of the spinagogue crew.

I learned:

Reverse Fishtails
Full Steve
All sorts of rotors/cleaned up rotors
my continuous halos are much cleaner
conveyer to halo continuous with multiple variations
and a crap ton of variations.

Well worth it and highly reccomended. Those guys are teh cool.


O.B.E.S.E.

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mcp
mcp

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Total posts: 5276
Posted: Written by: Poje


Those guys are teh cool.



+1


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LazyAngel
LazyAngel

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Location: Cambridge UK
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Total posts: 2895
Posted:finally... right to left angel roll (needs tidying)
and some other halo-y stuff which involves turning lots


Because ActiveAngel sounds like a feminine deodorant

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Neon_Shaolin
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Posted:Mostly FeiCha stuff - like the forearm pop/roll to minimal beat steve to continuous angel rolls (most I've achieved is about 7 angel rolls in a row)

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Pogo69
Pogo69

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Location: limbo
Member Since: 6th Apr 2006
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Posted:it's all been about the doubles recently... pick up the contact staff every now and then, but it's just not doing for me as much as making pretty patterns with the doubles...

mostly playing with flowers... forwards, backwards, one forward/one backward... front plane (thanks yuta - yes, I know he's poi, but some of the stuff he was teaching at 2uberoz has translated very nicely to doubles)... trying to become familiar enough with moving in any direction, that it all becomes 2nd-nature, so's I can concentrate more on the movement, than the spinning...

still have a lil play with antispin stuff, some, but it's not quite working out as well for me...


--pogo (pat) [forever and always]


Lau_Shadow_Boxer
Lau_Shadow_Boxer

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Posted:conveyor belt - through halo - conveyor belt *dances*

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Skatto
Skatto

Walking on whims...
Location: Eastbourne, UK
Member Since: 12th Jan 2007
Total posts: 687
Posted:I gave up and came back to it months and months later...

And now I can do fishtails!!!

Woohoooooooo


Skatto

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Run like a cushion,
Be the small bookcase."

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Fire_Moose
Fire_Moose

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Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Member Since: 2nd May 2007
Total posts: 3597
Posted:woot woot, isn't it cool how that works?

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Pogo69
Pogo69

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Location: limbo
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Posted:hmmm... ok, that's now my new pedagogic technique for learning fishtails, too... I give up...

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Neon_Shaolin
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Posted:I taught Mr Majestik fishtails yesterday. He got them in less than two minutes...

B*stard... Either that or I'm a good teacher!


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