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Richee
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Posted:BTB Fishtailes.



:],



:R


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mcp
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mcp

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Posted: Written by: -sandy-


you always turn a little with angel rolls (and dont say you dont cause ive just watched your routine at play and you do, so there). The horizontal angel roll can be done with arms infront or behind, both you have to turn a bit (more of a rock from side to side i suppose but whatever)

And how is the normal second half of a full steve an angel roll variant, it rolls with spin down your arms and wraps your throat. That's clearly just a front side steve.




I think there's a difference between actual turning and sticking your arm further behind you. But I'll grant you to do it with arms in plane with my body and not moving, I'd need to turn.

Well it's like this, do a normal horizontal angel roll, do the second half of a full steve. The only difference is the position of your arms (more in front from the steve) and that it substitutes a throat wrap for a halo roll. Therefore I reckon the second half of a steve is just a front angel roll. (yeah, my fake front angel roll, not your proper front angel roll.)

A front side steve would be a steve that goes over your chest. Like a steve which substitutes a chest halo for the neck wrap. Not like the second half of a full steve, which is entirely different. In my book.

But that's all just pissy chat about the naming of moves.


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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mcp
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Posted:oh sorry: NEON IS STRAIGHT! ubblol ubblol ubblol ubblol

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Neon_Shaolin
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Posted:It's true - I spend an unhealthy amount of time online downloading videos of a certain 'Lady'... ubblove rolleyes

"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock

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Chronofracture333


Chronofracture333

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Posted:Guys, the antispin and non-turning were refering to the anti-spin non-turning horizontalish gay jesus, not the angel rolls.



Horizontal and vertical angel rolls are mechanically non-similar ignoring the obvious horiz/vert difference, so for me they're not even in the same family of moves.



I don't believe in angel rolls anyway.



meditate



@ NeonShaolin- In answer to your earlier demand for videos.... I hate making them. Plus I'm often of the opinion that videos are crap and detrimental to mine and others learning. I learn far more and am more inspired by this thread, just practising and talking to other staffers than any video I've ever watched. Other people disagree with me on this and they're entitled to be wrong of course.



But since it's you asking I'll get on it (Claudio's ass that is wink ).


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mcp
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mcp

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Posted:yeah? who said we were talking about your gay moves? tongue

Jesus, not everything revolves around you you know!

wink

:: I think several puns / witty statements could be made out of the last two lines, but for the sake of being charm-less, I'm going to ignore them ::

I'm a Lady don't you know! biggrin

ubblol hug biggrin


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Neon_Shaolin
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Posted:Of course you are wink


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"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock

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strugz
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Posted:your all gay! biggrin

oh sorry, wrong thread wink


"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

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-sandy-
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-sandy-

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Posted:chrono: right gottcha i understand now, ta

"Don't do it naked!"

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Neon_Shaolin
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Posted:offtopic Oh wait... ignore me... redface



 Written by: Chronofracture333



I'm often of the opinion that videos are crap and detrimental to mine and others learning. I learn far more and am more inspired by this thread, just practising and talking to other staffers than any video I've ever watched. Other people disagree with me on this and they're entitled to be wrong of course.







I suppose it makes sense for people who are already up on the terminology but for staff newbies like myself who haven't yet absorbed the innate understanding of the descript of moves in purely written medium it can get quite confusing... Besides, I'm a visualist... smile hug





 Written by: Chronofracture333



But since it's you asking I'll get on it (Claudio's ass that is wink ).



Becareful you don't get blinded by his pan-spectrum boxers... wink


"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock

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Mynci
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Posted:don't worry dave, I sometimes suspect they are just making stuff up to sound clever wink except strugz... he's not clever (see his last post ubblol )



as I don't know what a gay jesus is (appart from that picture of him starting off in the village peoples YMCA) I can't see how you do a jesus without turning??? I imagine something like the continous angel rolls that LOOK like jesuses but aren't in the lab 5?? video with chrono and strugz.



But hell what do I know I'm shite at staff biggrin



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*Waits for witty remark from staff "GODS" ubblol *

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A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

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Chronofracture333


Chronofracture333

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Posted:*clouds part*

Kneel before DROLYAG foolish mortal and recieve my staff of chastisement!!!

HA HA HA!!!

redface sorry...


*no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no moves there are no*

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mcp
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Posted: Written by: Chronofracture333


Kneel before DROLYAG foolish mortal and recieve my staff of chastisement!!!




Get a room! wink


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Neon_Shaolin
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Posted:Yes GRAND DAME EKYDREBU... wink

"I used to want to change the world, now I just wanna leave the room with a little dignity..." - Lotus Weinstock

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bluecat


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Posted:um.

can i suggest that the general level of posting in this thread over the past page or two has made people not post in it - it's supposed to be a place where people can be pleased about what they've just learned, not a slagging match (even if i know you're all just being freindly, its a bit daunting i imagine, if you don't know you all)

shrug

so, please remain on topic. ta.

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strugz
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Posted:Yeh - what he said ubbloco

I leart a backwards weave with one stick biggrin


"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."

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Mynci
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Posted:I've learned the staff cut biggrin

On friday I will be doing what all the other staffers seem to have done. Yes I'm cutting my hair off wink
Long hair = tangled neck moves


A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

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Posted:non-wrapping wraps (thanks, jay, nearly a year since you showed me them....). essentially, isolating a staff round a point as if it were contacting on you, but its not.



not nearly as exciting as it sounded without the explanation wink

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mcp
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mcp

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Posted:well if you get to spoil our fun mr bluecat, I think I'm going to do some fun spoilage.



If you post a move that you've learned that you know people won't know what it is / won't know about, you have to post a decent description of it.



You can't just say: I learned to do supernatural jesus's with triple doppelgangers.



Cos that's useless. And gay.



More explanations! ubbangel hug


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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Chronofracture333


Chronofracture333

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Posted:I Quite agree...

Horizontal-ish staff move

rolleyes


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Neon_Shaolin
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Posted:Gay! Gay! Gay! *runs off to try it*

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mcp
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Posted:awesome dude! Just got that tonight, but not as nice as that! Sweeeeeeeet.

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biggrin
biggrin


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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-sandy-
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-sandy-

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Posted:sweet. that wasnt quite how i pictured it, i was thinking it had a front side halo from the chest roll but i think your version is better. gonna learn that one instead.

Just came up with a new one tonight: front side min steve to wings horizontal angel but without wrist proppelors. So basically you do the min steve and turn 180 with the staff and roll back to the h. angel


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why
BRONZE Member since Mar 2004

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Posted:picked up doubles for the first time in over a year... poi seems to have helped teach me a butterfly weave (tq moggin doubles basics a few years ago too... some things starting to sink in... ubbrollsmile )

and even managed to get the hang of uber basic movement (tho my brain still hurt with 1 bt turning with sticks at shoulder and butterfly waistwrap turning things too frown )

even remembered some throwing stuff (tq magical antti workshops)


You see things; and you say, 'Why?' But I dream things that never were; and I say, "Why not?" George Bernard Shaw

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Faberg
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Posted:hey there you lot biggrin



been practising all manner of anti-spin goodness like a mo-fo (pardon my abbrieviated profanities) since i got back from edinburgh. had sort of learnt some of it at the ejc but hadn't really worked at it till i spent time emersed amongst all that double-stickiness in meg's playroom biggrin biggrin biggrin



moving into a new place this weekend where me & my new flatmate are going to have a workshop/playspace the same size as yours meg (with ridiculously high ceilings!bounce ) & i've been blagging / scabbing / acquiring a fab selection of mirrors with which i can cover one wall, hee hee!!!



hmmmm... maybe this is too much info for the "new move's" thread but it's 4.10am & i'm sitting here drinking cider so ...mehhhh.... nana



L peace


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jaysus


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Posted:hi. its probably olready a move but i figured out like spin the staff in one hand at your right hand side until its in the bend of your arm (in front of your elbow) then leen forwards and let the staff spin on your back and catch it with your left hand when it falls off

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-sandy-
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-sandy-

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Posted:is that in wheel plane? think i get what you mean if it is. Try turning to your left once its on your back and you will do a halo roll as well (if you are doing what i think you are doing smile)

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Neon_Shaolin
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Posted:Has anyone done back-to-back continuous steve-passes?

Basically two people (preferably of same height) stand back-to-have, staff rolls down Person A's right arm and carries on onto person B's left arm. Perhaps with a helicopter by one or both parties as a transition and carry on?


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Mynci
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Posted:nope but may well try that with simon tomorrow... along with chrono's halo-limbo combo..

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Richee
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Posted:Vertical cage over head. The worse horizontal

direction is much better now.



lightning,



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Chronofracture333


Chronofracture333

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Posted:Horizontal anti-spin may be the most pointless thing ever...

Anyways, the full-neck-anti-wrap thing in the video is three pointed anti-spin. Learnt the four pointed version with two "steps" across the back.

There are others but it seems that a nice way of controlling horizontally anti-spun contact is letting the staff "step" from one 3/4 grip point to the other. Lots of horizontal conveyor stuff can work like this as does Megs origami shenanigans.

It's horribly no-plane, though this stuff might look good if the staff was well controlled and isolated.


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