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cainebaby
cainebaby

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Location: nottingham, uk
Member Since: 1st Oct 2004
Total posts: 32
Posted:i'm so frustraited, can anyone help, i'm finding it impossible to do reverse and 5 beat weaves. i've had a few people show me, i've been trying to do it for a couple of months and seemed to have hit a barrier with this. can anyone recomend some sites with good demonstraitions?

what kind of victory is it when someone is left defeted?

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Skulduggery
Skulduggery

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Location: Wales
Member Since: 12th Aug 2004
Total posts: 8428
Posted:Try here Mots Place and Coley's site .
Good luck...... once you click and get it you'll wonder what all the fuss was about!


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leggylass
leggylass

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Location: UK
Member Since: 27th Oct 2004
Total posts: 13
Posted:Ill pass on what someone told me to do, and it worked. Close your eyes! Its the only way I could do backwards weave for a start meditate

Turn out the lights and lets glow...

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Phat J
Phat J

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Location: Chelmsford, Essex. UK
Member Since: 7th Oct 2004
Total posts: 46
Posted:Well from a guy point of view just shove some padding in your trousers and "Go For It"
The poi spinning book by Michael Mann (I think that's his name, helped me no end) Although I'm still struggling with the reverse 5 beat (Crash helmet I guess)
Good Luck


When faced with the inevitable, you MUST face the inevitable.

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nearly_all_gone
nearly_all_gone

Pooh-Bah
Location: Southampton
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Posted:Michal Kahn, maybe? Michael Mann is a director.

What a wonderful miracle if only we could look through each other's eyes for an instant.
Thoreau

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Phat J
Phat J

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Location: Chelmsford, Essex. UK
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Posted:You're absolutley correct it was getting way past my bedtime and I couldn't be bothered to look it is available via HOP for a very reasonable 11.71 http://www.homeofpoi.com/shop/listItems.php/fire/15/poi/293/detail/Books
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BTW Michael Mann....he directed "The Last of the Mohicans"
Whic I personally think was fantastic and after just checking on the internet it would appear he produced Miami Vice... Interesting piece of trivia.
You wait, I bet it comes up on a quiz one day and someone will have me to thank...

Phat J

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When faced with the inevitable, you MUST face the inevitable.

"The All Nighter"
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cainebaby
cainebaby

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Location: nottingham, uk
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Posted:I did it! i can do the five neat weave! it was sooooo hard to master! still can't do reverse weaves, but at least now i have more incentive to carry on! thanx to you who sent me tips they all helped xxxxxxxxxx hug

what kind of victory is it when someone is left defeted?

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JauntyJames
JauntyJames

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Location: Hampshire College, MA, USA
Member Since: 22nd Dec 2004
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Posted:heh, when i first learned the weave, about every fifth time going into it i'd smack myself squarely in the groin ubblol tongue

-James

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UCOF
UCOF

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Posted:How manydifferents threads does everyone reckon there are for people who cant learn the 5beat?

rolleyes

I reckon there are squillions of them.


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Wild Child
Wild Child

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Location: Cheshire
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Posted:and it's so nice you guys keep stepping right up to help eveytime sunny thankx

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UCOF
UCOF

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Posted:I also think there should only be one definitive thread for 5 beats, stuck to the top of the poi moves section.

Otherwise its just eating up bandwidth to say the exact same things everytime.

smile

But many people have also said this....
and there stillisnt one as it only happnes once in a while.

Its the same with all the reoccurring threads that keep popping up. Having only one thread for each stuck to the top of each board has also been suggested but still no result.

I really do wonder why that is.......

umm


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Wild Child
Wild Child

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Posted:Jon for Mod! lolsign

'The last rays of crimson on the spindle tree as the cerise fruit splits and reveals its orange seeds in a gloriously clashing colour scheme no-one would ever dare to wear'
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UCOF
UCOF

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Posted:1 down, 15482 to go.

wink


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Nucleopoi
Nucleopoi

chemical attraction
Location: Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England
Member Since: 6th Nov 2004
Total posts: 1097
Posted:the lessons section on HoP show you fairly well how to do the 5bt weave,check it out.i learned it from there.

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nearly_all_gone
nearly_all_gone

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Posted:Written by: Nucleopoi

the lessons section on HoP show you fairly well how to do the 5bt weave,check it out.i learned it from there.


So did I, eventually. But it took about 6 months.

What I'm saying is, if you can see how to do it, then it's just a matter of (loads of) practice. And the animation in the HoP lessons lets you see how to do it.


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animatEd
animatEd

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Location: Bristol UK
Member Since: 31st Aug 2004
Total posts: 3540
Posted:Ah-ha, well now. Reverse weave is easy peasy. With forward weave, your leading hand goes 'over the top' as you go from side to side (when going to your right, your left hand crosses over the top of your right hand and vice versa), right?

Well to reverse weave, start off in forward weave, turn around, and instead of going over the top, your leading hand should go underneath the other

Any good?.


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Nucleopoi
Nucleopoi

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Location: Ilkeston, Derbyshire, England
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Posted:it depends which method you find easiest to follow.i find it hard to do things when its explained to me,i prefer to see it in action.try to find the method that suits you and learning moves will become easier wow

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cainebaby
cainebaby

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Location: nottingham, uk
Member Since: 1st Oct 2004
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Posted:i can do it reversed now aswell! i learn best by watching people do moves then immotaiting them. reading and watching it on the internet helps, but it's not the same.

i'm moving to BTB stuff now, where do i go after this tho? what moves are left? and just how far can you go with poi? maybe i'll try move contact poi, bit hard if it's on fire tho! worth a try!


what kind of victory is it when someone is left defeted?

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Phat J
Phat J

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Location: Chelmsford, Essex. UK
Member Since: 7th Oct 2004
Total posts: 46
Posted:Cainebaby, have you nailed 5 beat reverse weave or 3 beat reverse?
Good luck with BTB, I'm trying but I haven't really given it much of a go yet, I think it's like any move with poi "go for it, ignore the pain and persevere" eventually they come off and then your body relaxes as you do it without thinking, then you don't feel shattered after only a few minutes as your body is not all tense trying to concentrate.
One point another poister said earlier which is a great point to make, close your eyes, if you have a personal stereo (or iPod like myself) plug it in and find some good music to chill out too it makes learning so much easier.

Good Luck keep at it.

I'm waiting to try my new christmas presents, double headed fire poi and fire juggling balls, just waiting for better weather.


When faced with the inevitable, you MUST face the inevitable.

"The All Nighter"
surf film with that girl from The Bangles.

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Flame Boy
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Posted:Apparently peeps can whack out a 7-beat weave, I cant see how without tying yourself in a knot ubbloco but i assume they could prob do 7 beats in reverse and both directions BTB too, but I think you have to be a real legend...like the "Anikin Skywalker of Pois"!

PS. Watch your head when doing BTB!


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mtbeer
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Posted:7 beat with wrist wraps is pretty straight forward and can look nice but the arm pretzel 7 beat is downright ugly. I still remember the first time I saw a 9 beat video and thought: what kind of person would even want to learn something that disfiguring. smile

BTB 5 beat with wraps is about as difficult as the normal BTB 5 beat but turning that into a BTB 7 beat is still beyond me. Anyone have a video link to a BTB 7 beat?


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