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What's more difficult? Poi or Staff?
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Location: South Wales
Thats like saying... whats better: jam or peanut butter?
They are completly differnet so you cant compare them.
But the answer you are looking for is that Poi is harder.
*multiple thread alert but I cant be bothered to find the older one*
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Location: Staines, United Kingdom
poi is definetly harder than staff, it hink poi looks more impressive if thats what your trying to accomplish at the same time, but in the end dont chose one cos its easier or harder, chose whichever one feels right, but only babies juggle so dont do that
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Location: Somerset, England
If its not in the "other toys" section then its just not worth knowing
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Neo - Hippie
358 posts
Location: Sala, Slovakia
Im a baby..8oO but hey I do poi and staff and contact juggling and all..
AND to your problem... poi is harder than normal staffing... but contact staffing is harder than poi... so.. best thing is to choose both
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yea i think normal staffing is easier than poi, but im not sure about the contact staffing..
my biggest problem with poi is that i cant move my hands/arms independently.. stalls and wraps and things like that are very difficult for me. not that im a master at contact staff or anything, but i think its easier to train yourself to learn that than stalls and isolations with poi.
but for all the babys, of which i am one, the same goes for juggling.. you have to be able to move your hands independently of one another in order to get some realy nice tricks to work..
but yes, i agree with White RaveN, its best to chose both cuz both have their charms
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Location: United Kingdom
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Location: Byron Bay Australia
I believe that all toys have there own charm and you can't place one above another by how difficult they are. Personally I started with poi because I found them easier and I felt they were for me. I've only picked up staff in the last few years and it wasn't much different than learning poi. Same as my other toys it all takes practice, patience and enthusiasm. You just have to get into it and try and you will find the right toy/s for you.
ps
as far as juggling is for babies. I can do some pretty tricky stuff with lops of different toys but I still can't juggle.
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Location: home of the tiney toothy bear, Australia
Majik is right. Each individual toy has its own pros and cons enabling them to do different tricks of various styles. Poi is harder than staff AT FIRST simply because a staff wont go limp and hit you in the head. this is rather a shallow topic as for most people, if you are commited then nothing is difficult with time.
Juggling is not for babies, you're just jealous cause we can do your staff and poi but you cant do our clubs, so nahhh!
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Location: 8 days at Cloudbreak, 6 in Perth, Australia
I think it depends on the individuals learning capacity in certain areas too...I find learning staff impossible but poi is easy....
Whereas a lot of my friends find poi impossible but staff a totally doable thing to learn.
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Location: home of the tiney toothy bear, Australia
i have found that generally guys find staff easier to begin with while girls find poi easier at first, tis rather strange
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
i hada staff for ages, but always felt really stupid when i picked it up, then i picked poi and it felt so natural... so i think its a matter of playing and seeing what fits for you
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384 posts
Location: West LA
I wouldnt compare Staff and Poi, but what one could generally say:
Clubs are more difficult than Poi
Meteors are more difficult than Staff
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this is quite true
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241 posts
Location: Oregon, USA
poi? difficult? my 12 year old figured poi out in an afternoon! without a teacher! staff, however, he gets his bumps and knocks like they're going out of style...(no, he's not doing either lit... yet) i have been at staff for 20 years now, first as a weapon, then fire performance. to put a staff user next to poi, poi impresses more people, unless you are as knowledgeable in staff moves as i am. it usually comes out to a tie or narrow -margin lead for me when people compare the two. suffice to say, it's more the moves you choose to learn that makes one or the other harder. it's like (to quote my girlfriend) asking, " which is harder, Karate or Jujutsu?" two completely different styles...chain vs. rigid, striking vs. grappling. see where i'm going with this?
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Location: Huddersfield + Hull Uni... UK.
I've never tried staff, but the contact moves seem far harder than any poi moves.
... juggling is also much, much harder than poi, IMO.
(Five ball >>>>> in hardness than 5 beat weave, which I still haven't mastered though...)
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611 posts
Location: somewhere..., Germany
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I wouldnt compare Staff and Poi, but what one could generally say:
Clubs are more difficult than Poi
Meteors are more difficult than Staff
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500 posts
Location: Lower Shaw Farm
juggling diabolo, and unicycling is harder than poi and staff put together so blugh
Jake the Juggler
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Location: home of the tiney toothy bear, Australia
diabolo? i wouldn't say diabolo is harder.
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Location: Huddersfield + Hull Uni... UK.
Diablo is the easiest to pick up, IMO.
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Location: wombling free..., United Kingdom
Staff, poi and juggling together are harder still
A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.
4,308 posts
Location: York, England
The difference is this:
I know better than to spin staff indoors.
I do not know better than to poi indoors whilst talking on the phone.
Poi break more objects. Therefore poi are harder
Wait, that logic makes no sense....
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Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom
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I wouldnt compare Staff and Poi, but what one could generally say:
Clubs are more difficult than Poi
Meteors are more difficult than Staff
i am more presumptuous and therefore i would compare staff and poi:
one stick is harder than one poi.
two sticks are harder than two poi.
ergo: stick is harder.
juggling is something completely different cos you need three things to even discuss it, and as such it does not fit into the comparison scheme used above.
cole. x
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girls are more difficult than both staff and poi
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thats the best statement ive ever read in this forum
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Location: South Wales
*nods head and agrees*
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Location: Bristol!, United Kingdom
** shakes head in disagreement **
It's boys that are difficult
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we're *so* easy.
oh.
er..
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7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom
both boys and girls are easy imho.
its when they get near each other that difficulties arise.
have to agree with hels overall though - i'm far from simple
cole. x
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i was gonna say..... girls are easy, boys are hard.... but thought better of it
oooops
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4,308 posts
Location: York, England
boys are about 90% easy and 10% impossible
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