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If I could be granted one wish I would ask for all the questions of the universe.

If I could be granted one wish I would ask for all the questions of the universe.

"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

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no its on the first page we are no on page 7, anything goes after page 6 every one knows that

You can't avoid pain by fencing yourself from it.
Some times you need the help of others more than anything else
But you have to let them close enough to help......
People want to be needed, I found that out too

oh, in that case i'd like to say humans are the SMARTEST creatures ever to walk on the plant and i think lowly DESTROYING the WORLD is a GREAT idea!

or something like that

"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

jointly owned by Fire_Spinning_Angel and Blu_Valley

"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

jointly owned by Fire_Spinning_Angel and Blu_Valley

Let me just say that I havent read all the posts here, so sorry if this has been said before.
Anyway, konsti, u are wrong that I said that technology will make us less intelligent. I dont agree with that, however, the term intelligence will be different aswell. Intelligence now can be defined as how much knowledge an individual has (very rough definition but its not my point). Future intelligence, with the advent of pocket-information-portal, will be defined as the ability to gain information and to filter the required info. Intelligence will be about searching and filtering.
But anyway, id definatly say that humankind is too intelligent for its own good at least, i dunno if it could be defined as "too good for nature" or whatever, as our superior intelligence is itself just a process of natural selection (altho im with boris in that that does not apply anymore). I would say that due to the fact that intelligence of humanity is rising exponentially (which can be seen every where, but easiest in the technological world of discoveries... i mean, 1st we discovered fire and invented the wheel, and slowly we started using these two tools to make more tools and more tools and more.... so after a while we could see that the industrial revelution is only about 100 years before the space age, which is itself only around 30 years before the internet revolution...) and the fact that morality and laws which govern understanding and control such information is only moving is a straight sloped line upwards we will definatly reach the point where we will see revolutions in our lifetime...

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"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

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Bizzare Tzar Bazaar
Belt from buckling a buckle of a belt
Twenty-two tu-tu tattoos
How long has long gone John had long-johns on?

You can't avoid pain by fencing yourself from it.
Some times you need the help of others more than anything else
But you have to let them close enough to help......
People want to be needed, I found that out too

"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

jointly owned by Fire_Spinning_Angel and Blu_Valley

hrmmm...
well actually, i wish I could find the article on www.slashdot.com which showed the study that people considered creative have specific points in their brain which would be classified instable.
Im not saying that creative people are loonies, im just saying there has to be a certain degree of thinking differently, and this difference in thought is generally caused by irrational thoughts and connections which generally should not be there. Ive had this debate with so many of my art tutors hahaha... its great to finally have it outside the art world.
I find it an interesting point that imagtion is a high form of thinking (no pun intended...), I would definatly agree that creative people are generally more intelligent than non-creative ones (altho not always true) altho i prolly have a personal bias affecting my opinion .
Oh, i just thought of this... Im sure everyone would agree that most children are generally more imaginitive than adults.... how does this come into the "higher form of thinking" arguement?

on a sidenote for those of interested in some seriously sick tripped out [censored] check out www.wwwcomcom.com
this guy most definatly has some instabilities in his brain! i love it!

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Written by: anemone


which showed the study that people considered creative have specific points in their brain which would be classified instable.







ok the rest of your post was nicely put, and i have read studies that say what i am quoting you on...........my problem with it is that we are all judged by pre-set guide lines that say what is and is not normal. granted the list of creative/intelligent people that went nuts is verry long, but why do we all have to be judged in the same way?



artisticaly speaking i have the skills of 2 year old (my stick figures look up) but when it comes to poetry, and writings i can hold my own............now with that said, we all know that dif parts of the brain effect dif skills, so why should my mental stability (or instability ) be judged the same as some who is artistacly inclined, or who has no creative skills at all?

You can't avoid pain by fencing yourself from it.
Some times you need the help of others more than anything else
But you have to let them close enough to help......
People want to be needed, I found that out too

If I could be granted one wish I would ask for all the questions of the universe.

If I could be granted one wish I would ask for all the questions of the universe.

"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

jointly owned by Fire_Spinning_Angel and Blu_Valley

You can't avoid pain by fencing yourself from it.
Some times you need the help of others more than anything else
But you have to let them close enough to help......
People want to be needed, I found that out too

"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

jointly owned by Fire_Spinning_Angel and Blu_Valley

-James

"How do you know if you're happy or sad without a mask? Or angry? Or ready for dessert?"

"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

jointly owned by Fire_Spinning_Angel and Blu_Valley

You can't avoid pain by fencing yourself from it.
Some times you need the help of others more than anything else
But you have to let them close enough to help......
People want to be needed, I found that out too

Nice idea Burnign Brain - about crazy creative peeps being ahead of their time. I said the same thing to my Mum the other day (in reference to myself - the world isnt ready for my 'idealism' )

Also interesting re sharks/prey/evolution

As an aside, what do peploe make of esp,telepathy, telekinesis - is that he next evolutionary step? unlocking the parts of our mind that we cant use right now?

Speaking to s freidn the ptehr day he came out with the cool idea that we could well develop such things and more, but becasue we are conditioned from the cradle as to what is/isnt possible, right/wrong, dos/donts, we lose the ability to realise those things.

Which links to the idea of progress resulting in thinking outside the box (creativity).

THen what about autism and how that results in unlocking of talents and traits. And how is that linked to inlelligence? Is the intelligence inate. Am I using inate in teh right context? have I lost myself and others? :crazy: :crazy:

...(wanders off to talk to the man in the mirror he keeps seeing everytime he looks..)

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If I could be granted one wish I would ask for all the questions of the universe.

Written by: mico


But be careful with too strict a notion of what
is 'natural'.





I agree with that, surely the reason we are debating the fact about us exeding nature, is meerly because we have evolved and grown more intelligent. Which is natural, and through our intelligence we have done things to effect us (which might not be considered natural) such as medication.

But people have bean using mediacation for many hundreds of years, like aboriginals and tribes people all over the world, this is no doubt, natural. But why all of a sudden, because we have such things as fassion, technoligy and the time to not go scouring in the bush for food, we buy it at the super market and farm it?

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But why all of a sudden, because we have such things as fassion, technoligy and the time to not go scouring in the bush for food, we buy it at the super market and farm it?



Yeah - I think someone mentioend earlier of the fact that we could eb 'devolving' and although I think this isnt true, its seems that humanity is wanting less and less to be seen as a collective, yet more and more dependant on the collective serving their needs. At the same time we are trying to avoid/shift personal responsibility.

Its a crazy cocktail that I can see leading to our destruction unelss something major happens. if we are the major fuel for our problems, maybe they wont die out until we do.

No wonder we act all

Or maybe this is just our nature, and we cannot change that - but I think its a bit defeatist to think like that, becasue if we can recognise a problem, is it not possible that we can overcome it?

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