I can't wait to die, I'm going to Hell. They have fire down there!
...Firebreathing? Magic is only part of it my friend, diet does the rest!
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So what makes fire twirlers any more special than another performers out there?
Warning others before they get ripped is fair enough, but one could question the motives of anyone using guilt to prevent a person performing.
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Last year when they came to town again they called us directly (first time we had the chance to directly negotiate with them)... we were already booked up doing full paid gigs but I offered to source 8 semi-professional/hobbyists for a fee of $1000 per night (well below what I consider professional rates, but a lot more than nothing).
they refused the quote saying they didn't have the budget this was a week before the show.. and we really didn't care wither way..
The day before they rang me back and agreed to the fees of $2000+GST..
so they do have money to spend on fire performers if they can't get them for free... probably a lot more than that in fact.
I guess the more info we share, the more everyone understands what this "market" is that we are part of (whether we choose to enter the commercial side of our art or not) and what "value" we (as a community and individually) and our clients put on
TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"
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Krews like Crusty are your customers even though they might not be at the high end of town. Perhaps when this is realised, a reasonable fee can be extracted.
TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"
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Also the above post proves that "reasonable fees can be extracted" when you know your worth and request payment!
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The day before they rang me back and agreed to the fees of $2000+GST. so they do have money to spend on fire performers if they can't get them for free... probably a lot more than that in fact.
Written by:So you do seem to have a personal vendetta going against the crustys.
yeah I am bitter about the demons because…..
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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Because, as will be pleased to know, the people in Melbourne are feeling the pressure and guilt being applied from people on this board, not to perform (and that’s the second time I’ve explained the guilt issue).
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Yes for sure, the attitude of the spinners can results in the non-payment or low payments from the demons and other crews.
TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"
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will be pleased to know that people are feeling guilty?
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I will not accept responsibility for the way that they are feeling, and nobody else on this site has to either.
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I am simply stating my opinion.
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I am not the only one who chose to boycott the demons, so I suppose that all the other performers who chose not to preform and spoke out about the way they were treated have sour grapes also?
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I AM bitter about the way that they treat people and I feel that THEY are the ones who need to have more professinaliaim when completing business dealings, but do not have a "personal vendetta against them"
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The attitudes of the spinners have nothing to do with the demons choosing not to pay
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Do you not request to be paid for a days work?
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so what bought the demons attitude about?
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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...Firebreathing? Magic is only part of it my friend, diet does the rest!
...Firebreathing? Magic is only part of it my friend, diet does the rest!
...Firebreathing? Magic is only part of it my friend, diet does the rest!
I can't wait to die, I'm going to Hell. They have fire down there!
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh