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Thesuper ego is the first coercive agency that we encounter in working on ourselves, which we find to be invested in keeping the unconscious unconscious and which accomplishes this by disapproving of the unconscious material. So, our approach is to help the ego consciously defend itself against the attacks of the superego, and hence to eliminate this important part of the need for unconscious ego defense mechanisms. If this is done, some awareness of feelings and sensations will bring up the part of the unconscious disapproved of by the superego, now that the ego is not guarding against it.
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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don't forget the whole idea was to end samsara and achieve moksha... thus reuniting our Atman with Brahman in nirvana, and this is achieved by eliminating desire by following the eightfold path.
this is i understood it in my philosophy of religion class.
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Point being that Buddhism is not a "new idea". The "new idea" (sorry to say, Stone) IMO is what you call "ego induced loonacy" or "spiritual hedonism": 'self directed paths of spirituality', 'pick and mix religions'
I find only relatively few '-ists' open for these new renegades. This usually is where tolerance (for others spirituality) ends and inquisition is sustained.
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Enlightenment for a wave in the ocean is the moment the wave realises that it is water (Thich Nhat Hanh).
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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….as it gets funny (strange) how you can't stop to attack me for questioning your belief system and criticising mainstream Buddhist' approach. I will cease to pay attention to your postings/ to take you seriously if your attitude towards me remains like this - I am part of this 'world outside your head'.
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…Having said this: to me it's funny how the 'self' ("ego" in this case) is condemned to be the "source of all evil/ suffering" - certain that it doesn't deserve this verdict.
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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The technique which S.N.Goenka teaches represents a tradition that is traced back to the Buddha.
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Since the time of Buddha, Vipassana has been handed down, to the present day, by an unbroken chain of teachers. Although Indian by descent, the current teacher in this chain, Mr. S.N. Goenka, was born and raised in Burma (Myanmar).
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…Having said this: to me it's funny how the 'self' ("ego" in this case) is condemned to be the "source of all evil/ suffering" - certain that it doesn't deserve this verdict.
I’m not prepared to even try to answer it, as you think it’s an attack.
Though, I will be interested to see how others answer.
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If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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Be aware, the evil flowers may eat your toes....
Have no friends not equal to yourself...
Feed your mind, read a book
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I addressed a bunch of (valid?) questions, which (again) remain unanswered. And this is the frustration on my side: I'm referring to your questions (at least I think I do) and have mine ignored. .........
Let me address my previous questions again and some new ones (and resign if there is no response):
1) Do you acknowledge Buddhism to (deeply) root in Hinduism, including some techniques like Vipassana?
2) How can you refer to the 'original teachings' of Buddha, if you depend on translations? Is this not the "hearsay" and "blind faith" that (to you) determine a religion rather than a philosophy?
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3) How is it possible that ppl like Mr. Goenka (in best faith, I'm certain) claim to be direct heirs to Buddha and his teachings and trying to appear like the 'only one'?
4) IF there is no "soul", then what
- 'suffers' in the first place? Who is it, that experiences 'suffering'? Who identifies the acute sensation and who turns it into the enduring concept of 'suffering'?
- gets "enlightened" and "liberated from suffering" through the practice of Buddhist doctrines?
5) What is it to you, that you call "Ego"?
6) What is it to you, that you call "Atman"?
and finally
7) What if this "Atman" simply is "Soul" to others? Why you put forth Hindu terminology to Westerners when it only results in more misunderstandings and complications?
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And then become Buddha in your own right.
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1. The Nature of Suffering (Dukkha):
"Now this ... is the noble truth of suffering: birth is suffering, aging is suffering, illness is suffering, death is suffering; union with what is displeasing is suffering; separation from what is pleasing is suffering; not to get what one wants is suffering; in brief, the five aggregates subject to clinging are suffering."[6]
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4. The Way (Marga) Leading to the Cessation of Suffering:
"Now this ... is the noble truth of the way leading to the cessation of suffering: it is the Noble Eightfold Path; that is, right view, right intention, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration."[9][10]
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To understand suffering, to understand the origination of suffering, to understand extinction of suffering, to understand the path leading to the extinction of suffering; this is called right understanding
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To rephrase: I would claim that most traditional practices of Buddhism originate in Hindu, incl. Vipassana. Siddharta ingeniously put them in a new context. Other practices got added within the past 2.500 years, regional 'adjustments' have been done same as with all other faiths. :
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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However, I feel that exactly by neglecting the 'academical' aspects of Buddhism, the whole thing turns into a dogmatic religion that more depends upon hearsay and blind faith, than practice. After all the inexperienced is susceptible to false pretends and trickery in the guise of 'personal development'. These just lead to walk a different path than intended, by any means. Then again...
Also the practice of meditation can be one way to accomplish 'spiritual peace', as for my part I find it strange to get called a Buddhist (or having myself to call such) if I meditate. Get it that you can meditate without being a Buddhist and still pray like a Christian?
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Interesting perspective... Hence I might have to pass on the title, because I can't really follow up on the first of the noble truths:Written by : Wikipedia
1. The Nature of Suffering (Dukkha):
"Now this ... is the noble truth of suffering: birth is suffering, aging is suffering, illness is suffering, death is suffering; union with what is displeasing is suffering; separation from what is pleasing is suffering; not to get what one wants is suffering; in brief, the five aggregates subject to clinging are suffering."[6]
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However, I feel that exactly by neglecting the 'academical' aspects of Buddhism, the whole thing turns into a dogmatic religion that more depends upon hearsay and blind faith, than practice. After all the inexperienced is susceptible to false pretends and trickery in the guise of 'personal development'. These just lead to walk a different path than intended, by any means. Then again…
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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And here it is a major crossroad for me to the Buddhist doctrines, regardless of the beneficial aspect of its practices - because I don't share the same understanding:
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So I get stuck with the most principle of Buddhist' philosophy - how could I accept it to be my path? I would have to think diametrical to my very core and principle in life.
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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Ok, one at a time.
Probably not true. Buddhism, like Janism are more likely to represent ancient traditional Indian belief systems, compared to Aryan influenced Hinduism.
Be aware, the evil flowers may eat your toes....
Have no friends not equal to yourself...
Feed your mind, read a book
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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There is a reason why I suggest to engage in academical studies of Buddhism (just as well as the practical side): It simply eliminates or at least diminishes the percentage of "blind faith" and makes it a "conscious choice" (which IMO is the desired approach). It might not work for every body, I don't say that. But it will keep you aware.
OWD: thanks for keeping up, I know that the sweetness of a kiss needs to be experienced, cannot be described properly. I do my kind of meditation, my kind of practice yet I wish not to be labelled a 'Buddhist' just due to that. Claiming that "the lifetime theoretical study on the 3beat wave will not lead to its understanding..." means that there is no real 'study' happening in the first place. Do I get your metaphore correct: "5 minutes of practice are more effective than 5 hours of study." ?? It depends on you, Dave. Saying that "no one will ever" is a prediction that proved itself to be erroneous before you started keying it in [/other side of bold predictions].
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OWD: If "Dukkha" does not equal "suffering", what is the correct translation then? You refer to the 'original teachings' in their 'pure form' and already with the most basic of Buddhist principles, the 4 noble truths we discover that translations are erroneous...
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