Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
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Cole and Meg agreeing with me? I must be wrong.
And Cole, I don't know what you mean by 'sanctify'. Does a Catholic church need to sanctify a Jewish wedding?
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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I'm gonna have to stick up for Faithinfire here, It's her beliefs, and I know she's not homophobic, she's told us herself her feelings on homosexuality and about her before, so I'm not too fussed.
If one doesn't believe that gays should have the same rights as heterosexuals, is that homophobia?
Serious question here. Not being sarcastic.
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Written by: colemanWritten by: faithinfire
i want one that says "keep your laws off my religion"
surely its a bit late for that - divorce is already legal in the u.s.
and as i understand it, catholic dogma states that a marriage under god is indissoluble?
source
cole. x
Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed
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More over, I think the point she was making was that laws should not restrict what she can or cannot believe.
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Written by: faithinfireWritten by: coleman
as i understand it, catholic dogma states that a marriage under god is indissoluble?
that is a secular thing, just like civil unions, which i am not against
the catholic equilvalent which sadly is becoming more common is annulment
and it is hard to be homophobic when you are bi yourself
like i said before i am not revamping the old discussion, it's all there just go back and look
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Written by: coleman
its even simpler than that i reckon meg:
supporting unequal rights for a particular group of people is unequivocally a form of discrimination.
so, according to this definition of homophobia, the answer to your question is a firm 'yes'.
however, dogmatic religions are discriminatory by their very nature so, with regard to the catholic stance on same-sex marriage, as the church is of the opinion that homosexuality is a sin, any discussion on the marriage issue is foreordained.
i am not certain i have a full grasp of the leagl implications here - could someone clarify for me please:
if same-sex marriage is permitted, does it carry with it the implication that the catholic church would be obliged to sanctify such unions?
that sounds wrong to me...
interesting discussion on the issue from a baptist minister
cole. x
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but thats personal beliefs which i try not to thrust at others!
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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More over, I think the point she was making was that laws should not restrict what she can or cannot believe.
Who's restricting what she can believe? She can believe whatever she wants.
Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed
Written by: Drudwyn
... The realisation I was gay put an end to my religious life, for the reason that according to the Christian church, God made me. But if that is so, God made me gay (it was not a choice or a temptation it is simply something I am). But God says that being gay is a sin, so God created me as sinful. The idea of being created sinful is the idea of Original Sin, but the Christian church says that Original Sin was ended with the Crucifiction, so I can not have been created sinful...
It was a confusing time in my life. Regardless, I'm in love, I'm happy and if God exists, then that is what he'd want...
I think that's mostly on topic >,<
Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed
Written by: faithinfire
abhor is a strong statement
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
Written by: faithinfireWritten by: jeff(fake)Written by:
More over, I think the point she was making was that laws should not restrict what she can or cannot believe.
Who's restricting what she can believe? She can believe whatever she wants.
that was the point of the bumper sticker i wanted, no one is restricting what i believe, no one is saying that
don't jump in the middle of conversations trying to start an arguement
and annulment is a catholic institution
marriage i would consider a religious thing, civil unions secular, if another religion ok's marriage in their religion that is up to them
Love is the law.
Written by: faithinfire
abhor is a strong statement
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Spin, bounce, be one with the world, because it is yours to enjoy...
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Written by: coleman
and there's a horrible website that goes with it: do not click this - its very unpleasant hate mongering
that's definitely the extreme/fanatical end of the spectrum as far as attitudes go, but its very clear that the catholic church isn't prepared to 'love thy neighbour' if thy neighbour happens to be actively gay
cole. x
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Written by: jeff(fake)
Can you prove which interpratation of scripture is correct? For hundreds of years the tenth commandment was taken by many Christians as an endoresment for slavery, other Christians disagreed. Some people say scripture declares a flat earth/young earth/geocentric universe. Some say it forbids mixed race weddings. Some say it forbids contraceptions, others say that's twisting it out of context. Shellfish, crop-rotation, the list goes on.
The point I'm getting at is: Perhaps a better approach is to just try and be nice to people and work out our own answers.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed
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