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shivasirons
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Posted:Hello all,

I have been lurking in the background here following the staff discussions for a while now. I thought I might chime in with an idea .
I think the Poi move is called a Hyperloopwhen the chains tangle and unwind. I have been messing around with the same concept with double staff where the arms tangle and cross (imagine the arms as chains, staffs as wick/poi) It looks best in follow time I think, winding and unwinding, continuously alternating the direction that the arms cross and the direction that the staffs rotate( in follow time)each time you create the hyperloop. Does this make sense. Does anybody care for this move/effect? You can also mimic the poi wrapping and unwrapping body parts (particularly the legs) with this concept. Any thoughts ideas?


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Pyrolific
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Posted:I Think I know what you mean (and yes I like this move), however I'd like to see it on vid, perhaps its totally different?

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Dentrassi
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Posted:it sounds similar to some of the double 3 bt weave weave with some tricky wrist work... i think.

dont quite understand the explanations though. as josh said - some form of video might be nice...

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shivasirons
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Posted:How can I post a video?

Could you give a brief explaination of the 3bt weave with doubles?

The "hyperloop" I was trying to describe doesnt require any shoulderrolls or wraps, the arms cross over eachother in front or at the side of the body and stop the motion of the rotating staffs. After the staffs stop rotating in figure of 8 motion, you can twis your wrist and shoulders slightly so that the staffs which are now parrallel have rotated about 90 degrees more around the arms. It is simply tangling and untangling your criscrossed arms. The flame effect looks like two cicles becoming one....all motion then stops (while staffs are "stalled" and arms are crossed)...when you unwind (in the opposite dirrection--staffs moving in follow time) a single circle becomes two again. I downloaded the video of Josh "Under the Bridge" where he creates a very cool effect where the arms cross and separate(is this the 3bt weave?) This gave me the idea for the "Hyperloop" thing..


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DeepSoulSheep
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Posted:3 beat weave

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ado-p
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Posted:Nice one deepsoul

I dont even have a hangover and i got a headache readin that one.



I once did a sort of three beat weave in the heli plane. The problem was someone saw me do it and pointed it out. Then I realised i was doing something cool and promptly forgot what i was at. Doubles corkscrew maybe, but not over the head (short stix) and with 3b style crossovers.

shivasirons

I would second the motions for hyperloop stick vid!!!

Do you have any footage of it by any chance.


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mcp
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Posted:I have to get another set of nunchucks so I can try hyperloops with them....

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Dentrassi
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Posted:ado - ubblol it shows i will always be a nerd at heart.... biggrin

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The "hyperloop" I was trying to describe doesnt require any shoulderrolls or wraps, the arms cross over eachother in front or at the side of the body and stop the motion of the rotating staffs.



understood... the critical question - are we talking about butterfly or parallel start in double figure 8's?

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After the staffs stop rotating in figure of 8 motion, you can twis your wrist and shoulders slightly so that the staffs which are now parrallel have rotated about 90 degrees more around the arms. It is simply tangling and untangling your criscrossed arms.




so its a 'stop then start' type of move rather than a smooth change in direction ?

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The flame effect looks like two cicles becoming one....all motion then stops (while staffs are "stalled" and arms are crossed)...when you unwind (in the opposite dirrection--staffs moving in follow time) a single circle becomes two again.




follow time? - is that when the staff do the same fig 8 but ones going forward and ones going reverse?

single circle to two again? OK... im getting some idea perhaps. in figure 8's what i call 'parallel' config, you move one staff around the other wrist - locking the wrists together. the momentum and twist can go on a bit, so the two staff are literally parallel next to each other. you do a figure 8 in this wrist locked move simultaneous with the double, then unwind back into normal doubles 8's.

is that it? you must be achieving this by varying the spin speed of the respective staffs at different points?

or have i gone and confused myself again??

not sure hyperloop is the correct word, perhaps it would be defined as a form of passive thru wrap?


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shivasirons
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Posted:I have a video MPEG...
Where can I post it?


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DeepSoulSheep
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Posted:It sounds like and offset weave or something. Same motion as for a louise.

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