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Sym
Sym

Geek-enviro-hippy priest
Location: Diss, Norfolk
Member Since: 28th Sep 2004
Total posts: 1858
Posted:Hi all,

I'm new to poi (picked some up when i got fed up trying to learn fish tails on my staff) and working my way though the HoP lessons. i've got up to no 13 (Thread the Needle) and i just can't figure out what to do! Can someone help me?! confused

thanks smile


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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:Dear mr Lovely Toyer90.





there have been many a thread concerning this pain in the arse move.



Try clicking the following link to find a whole load of search items I found for you. Some of them have no relevance whatsoever...whcih weirded me out



http://www.homeofpoi.com/ubbthreads/dose...prev=&Name=
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It was increadably unhelpful though



If you need anymore......you can search.



smile



Try also:

http://www.homeofpoi.com/ubbthreads/show...rev=#Post266948
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http://www.homeofpoi.com/ubbthreads/show...rev=#Post107560


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Sym
Sym

Geek-enviro-hippy priest
Location: Diss, Norfolk
Member Since: 28th Sep 2004
Total posts: 1858
Posted:Thanks! I did try searching for it, but i think adding 'thread' confused something!

I'm glad you said it's a pain in the arse move - makes me feel better about it now smile


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MikeIcon
MikeIcon

Pooh-Bah
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Member Since: 27th Mar 2003
Total posts: 2109
Posted:Try searching for "TTN" if "thread" is messing with it. TTN is often the term used on these boards. Also, putting quotes around "Thread The Needle" should be of some help because quotes make search engines look for the entire phrase instead of each word separately.

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We'll blaze a new trail,
and torch the rough patches.

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PyroWill
PyroWill

HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
Location: Staines
Member Since: 4th Aug 2004
Total posts: 4437
Posted:if u cant find the site i'll help you out by adding one quick post just giving some advice on doing the move, i didnt relaly find it pain in the arse but to be honest i think its only easy to learn if someone is showing you,but best way i can say is do a butterfly, (an inwards one), do it very slowly, as slow as you can and then push one hand forward with the one going back, imagine your pushing your sleeves down using the other hand so yourright hand pushes your left imaginary sleeve down while your left hand goes back, whichever one is going forward make sure it goes above the other one, sorry if none of this makes any sense, good luck

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GothFrogette
GothFrogette

grumpy poorly froggy
Location: Nuneaton
Member Since: 10th Oct 2004
Total posts: 3999
Posted:Written by: toyer90

Hi all,

I'm new to poi (picked some up when i got fed up trying to learn fish tails on my staff) and working my way though the HoP lessons. i've got up to no 13 (Thread the Needle) and i just can't figure out what to do! Can someone help me?! confused

thanks smile



the way i did it was to do the butterfly and then start bringing each arm up. i always find it best though practicing without any poi first,that way you can do it infront of the computer...lol once you think you have got the right rythm add the poi.
Good luck


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Stay Beautiful
Stay Beautiful

newbie
Location: Horsham/Norwich, UK
Member Since: 13th Aug 2004
Total posts: 19
Posted:I learnt it by doing the butterfly 1st and (I presume you have one hand on top of the other) swapping hands, the full move just kinda comes when you can swap hands.

(By swapping hands i mean moving the bottom hand on top of the hand you usually have on top)

Not sure if that helps.....:)


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Faberg
veteran
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Member Since: 26th Aug 2003
Total posts: 1459
Posted:think 1 potatoe 2 potatoe 3 potatoe 4.....

the same sort of movements, but your fists sliding inwards & outwards as opposed to just on top of each other....

best of luck ubbrollsmile


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Lillie Frog
Lillie Frog

not a stranger
Location: wales
Member Since: 31st May 2004
Total posts: 558
Posted:I have been trying to do this for so long, and I still can't.
I can just do the potato thing but not the sliding.
It's very sad, and I'm very crap.


Eat when you're hungry
Sleep where it's dry
No one is ever what they seem
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rftek
member
Location: college station, tx
Member Since: 26th Oct 2001
Total posts: 101
Posted:
hi yall, heres a few tips:

#1 as always, train your hands one at a time. put down one poi, take the other and do a butterfly. practice pushing it forward as you pull the other (empty) hand backwards.

#2 (forward) the hand that goes forward goes on top.
(reverse) the hand that goes forward goes on bottom.

#3 go slow, heavier stuff will go slower. ie;; glowsticks on strings are going to be moving faster than say socks.

good luck.


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Lillie Frog
Lillie Frog

not a stranger
Location: wales
Member Since: 31st May 2004
Total posts: 558
Posted:Thanks for the tips,
I'm sure that one day I will get it. I had to try for ages before I got the potato bit so I am sure the other bit will come eventually.
smile


Eat when you're hungry
Sleep where it's dry
No one is ever what they seem
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Gayle......!
Pooh-Bah
Location: Bristol !!!!!!
Member Since: 9th Jul 2004
Total posts: 2444
Posted:It was the timing of moving your hands that took me ages. if you follow the path of the poi slowly you should eventually see at what time to move your hands. It took me ages to get it then all of a sudden i saw the gap to move my hands and got it. It's really difficult to explain - i suggest finding a nice poier to show you so you can study where in the circle you can move your hands so they don't get tangled.

Gayle.....!

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Woods
member
Location: Birmingham, UK
Member Since: 18th Aug 2004
Total posts: 33
Posted:It's all been said before, but I found the easiest way to learn this was to do a butterfly, then REALLY exaggerate the bringing of the bottom hand back before bringing it back on top of the other hand.

Also, do it one step at a time. Do a butterfly, then swap hands, butterfly some more, then swap again. I found it easier that way.

The 1 potato, 2 potato thing really does help, but it's all down to.............................................................................timing.

Good luck!


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zarkia
zarkia

Member
Location: ireland
Member Since: 5th Oct 2004
Total posts: 98
Posted:not sure if this helps at all, but i always find that if you don't think of it as sliding your arms over eachother but more like punching the air, you'll get it.
so it goes something like:
spin right poi counterclockwise, punch for a second then spin the other poi clockwise and punch with that hand for a second.
oh and when i say clockwise or counter - that's just the basic butterfly move - i'm not out to confuse you or anything.


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Durbs
Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 5688
Posted:I learnt it as pushing your sleeves down one at a time, and remembering that whilst one pushes foward, the other pulls back - otherwise you'll find yourself being "dragged" forward.

When it clicks though - it becomes second nature...


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LadyKrystalWebb
LadyKrystalWebb

Me!
Location: Hampshire, UK
Member Since: 22nd Mar 2006
Total posts: 106
Posted:Grr, I understand what everyone's saying but I can't seem to slow my poi down enough, mine are home-made with golf balls and yo-yo strings and they are so fast dammit! I can't move onto another move until i've got TTN tho, it pisses me off too much lol tongue

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[Nx?]
[Nx?]

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Europe,Scotland,Both
Member Since: 5th Nov 2001
Total posts: 3749
Posted:make

new

poi

ubblol


This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
-><- Kallisti

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faith enfire
faith enfire

wandering thru the woods of WI
Location: Wisconsin
Member Since: 27th Jan 2006
Total posts: 3556
Posted:i discovered that when i started too...go get some socks or tails...i like my tails...i can watch my planes then too

Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed

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tadleysimon
newbie

Member Since: 20th Apr 2006
Total posts: 3
Posted:try using somthing different than golf balls. mine are home made too and i got tennis balls in football socks. works great

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Suibom
Suibom

addict
Location: Oregon, USA
Member Since: 2nd Sep 2005
Total posts: 577
Posted:Golf balls and yo-yo strings?? That sounds a bit ouchy and rather frustrating.. Socks are your friends! Lotsa learning links and sock making tips in my intro post:
http://www.homeofpoi.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=494698
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Hope it helps.


Definition of poi- A Hawaiian food made from the tuber of the taro that is cooked, pounded to a paste, and fermented.

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Saskeah
Saskeah

member

Member Since: 29th Dec 2004
Total posts: 43
Posted:Yeah, thread the needle is a bit of a challenge. It's a great move, though, lots of places to go from it. Definitely start by making new poi, though. Trip to Home Hardware will solve everything for you, I'm sure that anyone can tell you how to whip up a set of poi using some chain and a couple of tennis balls. I like mine to be nice and heavy, as well, and yours seem like they really wouldn't be. Keep trying. One nice trick that I've heard for thread the needle that was really helpful is to pretend that you're pulling up sleeves on a shirt while doing the butterfly.

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EnderWiggin
EnderWiggin

Member
Location: southern Rhode Island
Member Since: 13th Apr 2006
Total posts: 8
Posted:try making way shorter strings. i could never get this move but one day recently i made a set of super short (about 8") chains for my lacrosse ball poi for indoor practice and for double one handed stuff with 2 sets of poi. for some reason with the short set this move came to me almost immediately, and then the next time i went back to my long chains i could just do it, no problems. I've since tried this approach with a few other moves that were giving me problems and found that its easier to pick them up on the short chains.

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jo_rhymes
jo_rhymes

Momma Bear
Location: Telford, Shrops
Member Since: 10th Apr 2005
Total posts: 4525
Posted:ubblol it's so great to read Sym saying he cant do thread the needle!! ubblol Ok ok, it was 2 years ago, but it proves there was a time when he couldnt do it!! hehehhe!!! he's human after all!! and not just some sexy poi machine like i'd assumed.

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Neon_Shaolin
Neon_Shaolin

hehe, 'Member' huhuh
Location: Behind you. With Jam
Member Since: 13th Jul 2005
Total posts: 6120
Posted:I know what you mean. Makes me feel better that people light years ahead of me had to start somewhere!

I mean I've only just got the hang of Outwards Thread the needle...!


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Sym
Sym

Geek-enviro-hippy priest
Location: Diss, Norfolk
Member Since: 28th Sep 2004
Total posts: 1858
Posted:You see, this thread was a pain. I managed not to ask about what music people liked to spin to, I didn't start a bad intro, I read posts well and searched, but I couldn't find anything about this at all. After a few days of trying to posted, only to get the old 'do a search' line from people! Damn it!

Anyway, thanks again to Jon and Will smile

Remember people, you will get it (and loads of other cool moves) soon, and one day it'll feel great and you'll forget how hard it was to learn smile


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LadyKrystalWebb
LadyKrystalWebb

Me!
Location: Hampshire, UK
Member Since: 22nd Mar 2006
Total posts: 106
Posted:I have tails on my poi now and it is easier to slow them down. Guess I'll give ttn another go.

It is better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you're not.

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VampyricAcid
VampyricAcid

veteran
Location: My House
Member Since: 27th Jun 2005
Total posts: 1286
Posted:congratualtions on possibly the best "Old Thread Revival" EVER!! you are getting UBER hugs if i ever meet you!!!!

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FlamingCherry
newbie
Location: Portland, Oregon, USA
Member Since: 30th Apr 2006
Total posts: 1
Posted:I taught myself this one accidently by trying to do my butterfly with the other hand on top. It was so uncomfortable that I switched back to the other hand. Well what do ya know, the switching was a small thread the needle. Do the arm exagerations after the switch and you got it!

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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:Ahhhh..
sorry, Im just reminiscing old times when Sym couldnt do a thread the needle..

ubblove


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Geeza
Geeza

addict
Location: Leeds
Member Since: 14th May 2006
Total posts: 694
Posted:^ and me. There was a time i couldnt do underhand ttn at all. Now its so easy, why couldnt i do it??

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zildjinboy
zildjinboy

newbie
Location: Colorado
Member Since: 13th Jun 2007
Total posts: 30
Posted:i think i learned it today and all i am doing is doing a butterfly with moving my hands back and forth

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