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Analemma
Analemma

enthusiast
Location: West LA
Member Since: 22nd May 2003
Total posts: 384
Posted:Really tricky, and I dont recommend them unless one is confident with isolations, otherwise they look quite ugly.

The essence of hybrid moves is to play an isolation with one, and an extension with the other hand.

In an isolation your hand is spinning Opposite to the Poi-head - and in an extension your hand is spinning With the Poi-head -> So with hybrid moves: If you spin your hands sametime the Poi swing splittime and the other way round.

Try this: Wheel-plane. Shorten only one Poi and play an extension (bigger circle) - play an isolation with the other hand. Hands sametime ubbloco

Once one gets the feeling all moves are possible this way. I recommend starting with 3beat weaves.

andy


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Durbs
Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 5688
Posted:Oooooh. me like smile

Am currently at work - but can see it in my head and get what you're talking about - just got to wait 4 hours and I can try it...


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spiralx
spiralx

veteran
Location: London, UK
Member Since: 1st May 2002
Total posts: 1376
Posted:Are we talking about both poi having the same centre of rotation - but one is an isolation, the other an arm circle of some kind? So the poi are lined up? If so, the isolation is I suppose optional but does make it easier.

Oh wait, you're not talking about that at all ubblol


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coleman
coleman

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Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay
Member Since: 29th Aug 2002
Total posts: 7330
Posted:andy, you rock biggrin

this sounds really sweet!

guess i need to work more on that isolated 3bt weave again for this to look good - i still don't have it clean :rolleyes:


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duballstar
duballstar

slack rating - 9.5
Location: Suburbiton, Yoo-Kay
Member Since: 3rd Sep 2003
Total posts: 2216
Posted:what a nice idea! gonna have to have a play with that... thanks biggrin

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oli
not with cactus
Location: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
Member Since: 24th Jul 2003
Total posts: 2052
Posted:wish i could spin same time. i like the sound of this.

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They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no

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[Nx?]
[Nx?]

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Europe,Scotland,Both
Member Since: 5th Nov 2001
Total posts: 3749
Posted:always gotta take time to read your posts man, thats sweet, tho logical...

how about parellel 1 arm extensions (wall plane) with the bottom poi point isolated???? that would be overly badass.

T wave


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newbie

Member Since: 13th Oct 2004
Total posts: 17
Posted:i got that

!!!WheN PeOplE StArT HaTiNg ThAts WheN YoU KnOw YoU MaDe It!!!

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UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:So did I.

I blame the weed.

smile


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Nate
Nate

Groovy ga watashi no namae desu!
Location: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
Member Since: 5th Aug 2004
Total posts: 1530
Posted:i have tried very hard recently to get this move but its [censored] hard, is there any help or advice that anyone could give me

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Olive
Olive

enthusiast
Location: Paris 19e
Member Since: 9th Jun 2004
Total posts: 286
Posted:the only trial I had with hybrids .. as u call them,
is
left-hand spins a giant wall-planed reel (front)
right-hand does an isolated reel behind the head
... so that you get a circle within a circle

gotta try your weave same-time / split-time stuff ... sounds good


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Ronopotamus
Ronopotamus

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Location: Ireland, but floating around a...
Member Since: 27th Nov 2001
Total posts: 412
Posted:*Bump*
ubbrollsmile
After seeing these again at the EJC I do believe an almighty bumping is necessary.

Last night I finally started to feel the smoothness bounce ....kind of smile

Beautiful beautiful brainfecking material

Nice one andy!
hug
Ronan


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pricklyleaf
pricklyleaf

with added berries
Location: Manchester
Member Since: 7th Mar 2005
Total posts: 1365
Posted:has anyone got any video footage of this? (not like i'll be able to do them anytime soon tho!)

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TheWibbler
old hand
Location: New Zealand
Member Since: 11th Apr 2003
Total posts: 920
Posted:This stuff is amazing, very crazy to watch, exceptionally mind bending to achieve, anyone looking for something fresh to play with, THIS IS IT!

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Ronopotamus
Ronopotamus

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Location: Ireland, but floating around a...
Member Since: 27th Nov 2001
Total posts: 412
Posted:There's nothing quite like a brain cramp to start of your day! biggrin

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thelost
thelost

mmm...i feel all warm and fuzzy... 'no dude, that's your hair on fire'
Location: Birmingham
Member Since: 20th Aug 2005
Total posts: 355
Posted:Written by: pricklyleaf
has anyone got any video footage of this?



I second that


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JonnyRok
JonnyRok

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Location: Sunny South Africa
Member Since: 2nd May 2005
Total posts: 446
Posted:wow sounds brilliant, Im definately gonna give this a try.

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Mr_widd
Mr_widd

eat my face before i eat yours
Location: Torquay, UK
Member Since: 9th Feb 2005
Total posts: 253
Posted:sorry to bump this again but i think i saw it done at falmouth by simon (i think thats who) and i fell in love with it, although i cant do it myself yet. Is this the hybrid move thats being spoken about being antispun?

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garthy
garthy

old hand
Location: Bristol, England
Member Since: 22nd Apr 2002
Total posts: 717
Posted:Indeed it was (simon == simian) although simian does them without shortening one poi and the instructions state in the first post.

The antispin thing is a possiblity dreamt up by Simian and I'm not sure how successful he has been in executing it. I'm having trouble with just plain old hybrids.


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Mr_widd
Mr_widd

eat my face before i eat yours
Location: Torquay, UK
Member Since: 9th Feb 2005
Total posts: 253
Posted:arrwh, cool, wanted to make sure this was the trick. gonna go try it all night now.
offtopicthank you mr garthy. was coolio meeting you at falmouth if you remember also (i went with nate). this move makes me giggle cos it looks like a staff being spun. offtopic


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animatEd
animatEd

1 + 1 = 3
Location: Bristol UK
Member Since: 31st Aug 2004
Total posts: 3540
Posted:Maybe this will help you guys out:

Three beat weave. With the hand that's going over the top of the other hand to the other side, do a giant or long arm circle. Keep this up on both sides until you have a weave with a long arm beat going over the top every time.

Now, with the non-leading hand, follow the motions of the leading hand.

Ta da!! Hybrid weave. smile

Hope this helps.


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Mr_widd
Mr_widd

eat my face before i eat yours
Location: Torquay, UK
Member Since: 9th Feb 2005
Total posts: 253
Posted:OMG! this helps sooo much! thank you, i sort of got it on my right hand side, it needs work but i can feel it working. I was to busy trying to iscolate one and follow it round with my other hand, putting too much effort into it i think. This is sooo much easer. thank you!

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mcp
mcp

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Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted: Written by: garthy


The antispin thing is a possiblity dreamt up by Simian and I'm not sure how successful he has been in executing it. I'm having trouble with just plain old hybrids.



nahhhhh, I told him to do it. Hasn't he got it by now?


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garthy
garthy

old hand
Location: Bristol, England
Member Since: 22nd Apr 2002
Total posts: 717
Posted:some sorta two person hybrid type move would be interesting.

One person Isolating a weave / buzzsaw and one framing them with long arm?

Hmmm....


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DeepSoulSheep
DeepSoulSheep

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Berlin
Member Since: 25th Sep 2002
Total posts: 2617
Posted:These move are hard enough to do with one person, but yes, it would be interesting to see and throw peanuts at. smile

I live in a world of infinite possibilities.

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simian
simian

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Location: London
Member Since: 11th Oct 2002
Total posts: 3149
Posted: Written by: mcp

nahhhhh, I told him to do it. Hasn't he got it by now?



i'd forgotten about that. it must have emerged from my unconscious mind during falmouth, when garthy mentioned chocolate.

kinda got it now. generally involves flailing.

the key was working out that one of them needs to be describing a tall thin antispin circle, while the other does a short fat one.

Works quite well done over the head in a windmill style.


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RaveRepresent
RaveRepresent

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Total posts: 567
Posted:Post deleted by RaveRepresent

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Salztzor
newbie

Member Since: 16th Sep 2006
Total posts: 4
Posted:I recomend all of you guys and girls to play with hybrids in all moves like weave, buzzsaw, fountains (weave over the while turning), crossover weaves. There are so many ways when you can play with them.

You can do them with hands together or stretched out, beautiful move :P

I LOVE HYBRIDS!

//R.I


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splinty
newbie
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Member Since: 18th May 2006
Total posts: 21
Posted:really really confused for as to what this move is...can anyone gimme a straight explanation or even a vid?

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16.15.8
16.15.8

I cant think therefore Im not
Location: In my backpack
Member Since: 16th Jul 2005
Total posts: 291
Posted:If you give me some days I can make you a vid.

But a short explanation is that you play as usuall(rotationpoint in your hand) with one hand and the other one is isolated?! Got me? confused

And try to keep your hands together to get a good effect.

Once you find the move/feeling you will love it ubblove

You can find a better explanation in the beginin of this topic.

//Thomas


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Mot
addict
Location: Netherlands
Member Since: 18th May 2002
Total posts: 666
Posted:Hybrids are brilliant, simian showed me them at EJC and what I saw garthy doing there was unreal.

I've got a little youtube vid where you can see some really sloppy hybrids, but maybe it'll give you the idea.



1.17 mins
around 1.50 mins
and 2.47

What i saw at ejc looked crazy, cool move.


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