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UCOF
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

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Posted:Well, seeing as we are starting to take over the

"Offical HOP "I just learnt a new move" thread", I thought we should contain this bit just to jugglerisng and the throwing and dropping of balls, clubs, rings and other miscellaneous juggling props.

Today I mothered learning 441.

I had a few throws of 531 but only 1 catch. I think my 5 is too high.

Note for the mods: I DEMAND on behalf of the jugglers on this site, as has been done with the aforementioned "Poi moves thread", that this one is made a sticky thread.

Otherwise its just favouritism really....


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coleman
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Posted:[will post here tomorrow cos i have to go now but have 3/4 of a post written!]



cole. x

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bluecat


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Posted:but you just posted?!!?

and it does work? why not?

71555171 = 32 (tick)
eight throws(tick)

hmm.

you may be right after all

but why 717771(20)71?

confundled

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hexagonic


hexagonic

Clubbles Jugs
Location: Manchester

Total posts: 1687
Posted:Rob i'l try that 555573 (6x,4) (4,6x) etc sounds really nice

Will try sometime wink

Sounds much nicer than the ones i know -

55555666 (6x4...

or High lo (stacked) triplex (one ball high, two low) and then straight in.

Got 14 catches of 97531 and can run in for ten catches starting with left side, now have to learn 10 catches starting with the right.

blah blah blah...
redface smile


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Posted:55555666 and in? any thers?
i'll wait to see the triplex...

can't wait to have the ceiling for 97531.

i can just get a 7 in if i kneel down in the office...


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coleman
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coleman

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Posted:Written by: bluecat

but you just posted?!!?

and it does work? why not?

71555171 = 32 (tick)
eight throws(tick)

hmm.

you may be right after all

but why 717771(20)71?

confundled

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you can't use the average to decide if a ss is valid or not cat - it doesn't work.
if you don't believe me try and juggle 351 and see where you end up...

but i guessed at what you might be doing and got it wrong too so i thought i'd wait until i had time to work it out properly.

i suggested (71)777120(71) cos the rhythm and height is closer to the shower but i didn't check it properly - i knew you could use (71)27272(71) to change shower direction so i just guessed you needed 7's in there rather than 5's...

the reason our numbers don't work is because 71 and 5551 (and 777120) are different states i.e. you can't go from one to the other without a transition.
71 is excited state and 5551 is ground state.

easy way of thinking about states: "where are the balls and where are they going to?"

in a shower all the balls go round in a nice circle.
for a 4b shower they go up for 7 beats from one hand (the right hand say), land in the left and are fed to the right 1 beat later.
with this pattern of balls in the air, you can't throw 5551 because to do that, you need 4 balls landing four beats in a row left-right-left-right and in a shower they only do that if you keep throwing 1's from the left hand or use a throw other than a 7 from the right (like a 2 for example).

even if you hold a ball in your right hand and then start the 5551 with the left hand (which would be (71)25551...) it still won't work as you don't have a ball in your right hand to do the 1 at the end - that ball is in your left hand.

possible transitions between 71 and 5551 can be found by using this thing.

tape yourself if you can cos i'd like to know what you're doing here!


cole. x


(and just to be tidy, i also found a page describing sync<->async ss transition throws here - i know no-one will read it except me but i put it here anyway so there's a handy link to it now from hop which means i can't lose it again tongue).


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they do porridge."
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Posted:ok, so i havent learned anything, ive even been skimping on my practice for the show on sunday, But i did just recieve 4 shiny new florcent yellow clubs in the post! biggrin biggrin biggrin

so expect a bit of four club action in a couple months time...

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coleman
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Posted:ooooo! what kinda clubs tommeee...?



martin just got some big fluorescent yellow balls (6 months after after i took the initiative, it seems big fluozies have gone into standard production - i'm a trendsetter! biggrin).





cole. x


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they do porridge."
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hexagonic

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Posted:cat u can also do a stacked multiplex (2b) straight up and then into 6x4 that way.

triplex easier tho.


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Posted:beards circus special, I was a bit worried about them, but thay are lovely! biggrin

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Carni


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Posted:getting behind the back mills mess with clubs finally. i want continuous treblas damnit. there are so many things i want to learn i won't bore you with posting them all.

Annoyingly as soon as i learn a trick i get bored of it and want 2 more tricks that i can't do!

Is anyone here going to the tasmania circus festival in febuary? if so, i'll see you there.


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hexagonic

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Posted:Written by: Carni
Annoyingly as soon as i learn a trick i get bored of it and want 2 more tricks that i can't do!



I know that feeling

Behind the back mills? With clubs? mad2 mad2

What the hell??!!


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Posted:yup.

ian does that one lovelily.

its not quite what you're imagining mr wiiill.


i like the 5555666(6x4)(4,6x), thanks for that.

smiles
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Eveish
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Posted:ooh, haven't posted on here for ages eek
welp, not too much has changed, but I have been learning to pass solids and have got that down now, am working on ultimates : ) Weeeeee! clublett juggling is far more fun in pairs smile


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Posted:yessir!

about 25 catches of half spin cascade...

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Posted:Nice one Tom smile how are the slapbacks going? my best is about 5. frown

Rob, the hi-lo triplex into (6x4) is catch on triplex side, 4 on other side, catch again and another four, THEN triplex (8x64) with one four on other side, then straight into (6x4).

Hope this makes sense, it looks quite nice when it works. wink

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Megafish
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Posted:Clawed Mill's, now officially sorted, 5 beat almost works everytime, but its still a bit of a pig.
Back of the hands Mill's Mess, worked once; it shall work by the end of the holidays.
Penguin Mess has started to feel possible, but i'm not making any firm promises to myself.

Anyone know of any videos of British Tennis?

catchya soon guys :-)


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Eveish
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Posted:Just got some rings for Christmas! Will be learning some contact ring juggling. anyone know any good sites/vids for learning this?

What if I should fall right through the centre of the Earth and come out the other side where people walk upside-down?!

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DsAds


Poi? Never!
Location: London

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Posted:Well not posted in ages, just thought i'd tell you guys bout my new 3 ball trick:



From mills, throw the U ball as a reverse back cross and catch behind the head with same hand, as you do this you collect the 1 and 2 balls. You then you go back into the other half of mills by throwing the two in your hand one after the other in the same direction as the behind the head catch, and finally the ball that was caught behind the head gets thrown under arm as the U ball again. Then you just repeat the sequence on the other side.



It feels like a nice trick but the jury is out on that one, hope my explanation is ok, if not those that know me its probably just easier to show you.



Ads x


Is that magnets!?

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Megafish
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Posted:Mate, that sounds like quite a silly trick. Just worked out how to do a really nice silly little box hop ,some new chops in the box stuff and other assorted hop tricks. 4 ball shower actually started working earlier, and Eric's has come on a treat, damn i love chritmas :-)
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Neural Coding is Idiosyncratic:-)

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Posted:Ads sounds good smile you'll have to show me at spitz.

Eveish for a good ring vid try Cooking Fat, available from www.peapot.net - not sure if the site is stil up, but give it a go. Not sure bout websites try www.jugglingdb.com - and then try rec.juggling from there. i know there are a few ring vids on jugglingdb.

Got some new bouncy balls for xmas.

bounce2 bounce


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{anthrax}
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{anthrax}

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Location: England

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Posted:How the hell do you juggle clubs without breaking your nails??

I've taken it up again after a years laziness and in the last 2 days I've broken 4 nails!!!! OUCH

Come on there has to be some trick that your not telling me tongue


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stroo
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stroo

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Posted:just learnt to juggle with 3 balls! lol! im going up in the world tongue

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grace
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Posted:lol im very poi oriented. i dunno any tech names about juggling, i can doa few ticks with 3 and now i can juggle hopps and today masterd using clubs WOHO yay me. lol (ohhhh i wish i understood more*cries*)

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Posted:6 tapbacks

5 times 441 with singles

49 catches of five mad mad mad

got a nice magic trick for cristmass....

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p.s. will, will call as soon as I know


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Posted:Nice one TomTom.



new hi-lo shower in bouncing. 9151 same siteswap but different pattern.



97531 getting solid, even getting rounds of it in globalls now!!



half shower in four clubs getting there...full shower in three clubs in flats...there smile



still getting hit in the face frown

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Megafish
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Posted:so how do club flats work then?

Juggling isn't useless, It just isn't useful.

Neural Coding is Idiosyncratic:-)

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duballstar
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Posted:they don't spin.... just stay flat. s'pretty tricky to keep going from both hands....

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mech
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Posted:*its not huge news*

i managed 106 continious catches with three clubs

*:D*


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Posted:
Flats may be easy, but try shower in flats, or 441, 531 or mill's in flats.

Watch Toby Walker juggling clubs for some idea of what flats are like. rolleyes


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Megafish
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Posted:Managed a pretty good Erics extension session last night, not sure how many, wasn't doing that much dropping, Plus managed to work out the propper eric way of doing it :-)

Juggling isn't useless, It just isn't useful.

Neural Coding is Idiosyncratic:-)

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