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_Clare_
BRONZE Member since Oct 2002

_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland (UK)

Total posts: 5967
Posted:Hi there everyone,

After a couple of requests, some consideration and my own rather curvaceous tangent on the thread for the Russian families of the school massacre I decided to start a thread dedicated to interesting issues in the daily news (or even the daily news itself, anything news-related really you get the idea).

Ive done a search and while theres hundreds of threads for individual news stories, I couldnt find one for an ongoing discussion of whats happening in the world around us.

I know lots of people dont follow the news, but many do, and my opinion is that discussion on current events gives people a better understanding of nations, races and humanity, for want of a better word.

HoP is in the enviable position of having a really global audience there cant be many websites with regular posting members from right across the world, covering such a wide spectrum of cultures, ideas and beliefs. We have the ability to look at events from many different viewpoints, so I thought we should use it.

Anyways, I was thinking we could post, or draw attention to, some of the main stories that affect us on a daily basis

Btw, I really dont want this to become an America-bashing thread (or any other type of bashing). I think most of us share the view that the American government are fairly appalling at the minute, and while criticism will definitely happen, I dont want any Americans on the site to feel victimised or that pro-Bush types feel their views arent valid. Try to keep all the views considered and, if possible, sourced.

So anyways, let me know what you think

A couple of interesting stories I picked up on today were:

Indonesia has become the latest nation to join the war on terrorism following the car bomb at the Australian embassy which killed 9 people and injured 180 I heard an Indonesian government official (I think it was the spokesman for the Indonesian foreign ministry) say they are 'now ready to join the war on terror', after it was alleged the militant Islamic group Jemaah Islamiah were responsible. (sorry, am about to leave work and couldn't find a source... will try to get it tomorrow).

Also, US secretary of state Colin Powell has declared the situation in Sudan a genocide:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3641820.stm
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It seems the countries are busy arguing over the term genocide as opposed to actually getting out there with aid and peacekeeping forces.

Anyways, Id be interested to hear anyones opinions on these stories as well as anything else youd like to bring up

Thanks
take care
Clare xox


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_Clare_
BRONZE Member since Oct 2002

_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland (UK)

Total posts: 5967
Posted:"But a single incedent in a small group is, in some ways, a more significant occurance. "

Hmmm. Interesting point, I've already heard that using the same logic, the Omagh bomb had a greater impact than Sept 11 (considering the population size differences between Northern Ireland and New York).


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ado-p
GOLD Member since May 2004

ado-p

Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland

Total posts: 3882
Posted:i dont think i can agree with that. sept 11 changed the mood of the world. omagh changed the mood of a country

and this

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A single incedent in scotland is significant because you would expect there to not be any there, ever.



why wouldnt you expect there to be any shootings?

if there are guns available i would expect shootings to occur. and it wasnt a schoolboy doing the shooting either. im not sure the incidents are comparable like that.


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_Clare_
BRONZE Member since Oct 2002

_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland (UK)

Total posts: 5967
Posted:Yes, I am aware of the difference Aidan, I wasn't talking about it's impact on the rest of the world.

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ado-p
GOLD Member since May 2004

ado-p

Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland

Total posts: 3882
Posted:thats not really defined in your sentance....

its funny, whenever you use my name like that i always imagine you saying it through clenched teeth.


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_Clare_
BRONZE Member since Oct 2002

_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland (UK)

Total posts: 5967
Posted:ubblol

I'll explain myself later... promise...


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ado-p
GOLD Member since May 2004

ado-p

Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland

Total posts: 3882
Posted:smile

Love is the law.

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Dut
SILVER Member since Mar 2002

lurker
Location: Nashville, TN, USA

Total posts: 380
Posted:from the new zealand hearald: (vaguely old, but it was linked in another story the other day)



http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?ObjectID=3544908
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Juggling may increase size of your brain



21.01.2004



Juggling and probably other visual skills that take time to master increase the size of your brain.



That's the conclusion of German researchers, which throws down the gauntlet to the mainstream view that the size of the adult brain does not change at all except when it is confronted by ageing or disease.



University of Regensburg neurologist Arne May and colleagues asked 12 people in their early 20s, most of them women, to learn a classic three-ball juggling trick over three months until they could sustain a performance for at least a minute.



Another 12 were a control group who did not juggle.



All the volunteers were given a brain scan with magnetic resonance imaging at the start of the programme, and a second after three months.



After this, the juggling group were told not to practise their skills at all for three months, and then a third scan was taken of all 24 volunteers.



The scans found that learning to juggle increased by about 3 per cent the volume of "grey matter" in the mid-temporal area and left posterior intra-parietal sulcus, which are parts of the left hemisphere of the brain that process data from visual motion.



Students who had not undergone juggling training showed no such change.



After the third scan, by which time many recruits had forgotten how to juggle, the increases in grey matter had partly subsided.





i knew it was working! i wonder if they can model how much more or less poi increases brain mass compared to juggling?



-- dut

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vanize
SILVER Member since Aug 2001

vanize

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Austin, Texas, USA

Total posts: 3899
Posted:arrggghhh!!!!

more bad reporting!!!

you don't "gain grey matter" by juggling, and the report never said that you did - only the press reprots of the scientific results did!

what happens is that the amount of grey matter given over to visual processing is increased (temporarily and for as long as needed - eventually fading if not used), but this gain comes at the expense of other brain areas who must essentially give up processing power to the visual cortex.

the interesting result of this study is that it proves the brain can reallocate resources to accomodate changing living conditions (becoming a juggler for instance).


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_Clare_
BRONZE Member since Oct 2002

_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland (UK)

Total posts: 5967
Posted:umm

Do you have a problem with the press young Vanize?

ubblol tis ok, don't answer that tongue


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Xopher (aka Mr. Clean)


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Location: Hoboken, New Jersey, USA

Total posts: 456
Posted:I bet it wouldn't work as well with people over 30. The brain becomes less flexible after that...I know this from my own pathetic efforts to learn poi starting at age 44...I just don't have the spare synapses.

But I persevere, because it's such FUN!


"If you didn't like something the first time, the cud won't be any good either." --Elsie the Cow, Ruminations

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_khan_
SILVER Member since Nov 2004

_khan_

old hand
Location: San Francisco, California, USA

Total posts: 768
Posted:Thought some of you might be interested in this set of thoroughly depressing stories re: water issues around the world. Given the current conflicts in the Middle East, oil is on a lot of people's minds, but personally I think that we'll hit severe crises with water before (or perhaps concurrently?) we do with oil.

"300 million rural Chinese lack clean drinking water"
Xinhua News Service, March 23, 2005
<http://english.eastday.com/eastday/englishedition/nation/userobject1ai956616.html>

Less than half of China's water is drinkable due to pesticide
pollution.


"Billion people face water shortages, warns UN"
Independent (U.K.), March 23, 2005
<http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10116789>

The WHO marked World Water Day by calling for action in Africa, where water shortages could plunge the continent into war.



"Country faces disaster due to water diversion by India"
The New Nation (Bangladesh), March 22, 2005
<http://nation.ittefaq.com/artman/publish/article_17090.shtml>

Experts say Bangladesh will suffer desertification and disease if India implements its river-linking project.


"Argentina: uranium-polluted water is legally safe to drink"
Inter Press Service, March 24, 2005
<http://www.ipsnews.net/africa/interna.asp?idnews=28015>

Up to one million residents of Buenos Aires are drinking uranium-
contaminated water that the government says is safe.


taken out of context i must seem so strange
~ ani di franco

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_Clare_
BRONZE Member since Oct 2002

_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland (UK)

Total posts: 5967
Posted:Jesus eek


Thanks for that blueboy

x


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vanize
SILVER Member since Aug 2001

vanize

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Austin, Texas, USA

Total posts: 3899
Posted:my brother lived in china in the early 80s - he said even in bejing people would walk down to the absolutely filthy river, use their bowl to sweep aside several inches of sludge and debris, and fill a pail and walk home with it for cooking. even after boiling, that couldn't have been good for you!

I know china has come a long way in the last 20 years, but that is a long way to come from, so I very well imagine they still have issues with their water supply!


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Xopher (aka Mr. Clean)


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Location: Hoboken, New Jersey, USA

Total posts: 456
Posted:I just heard that Terri Schiavo has finally died.

May her spirit find peace and healing.


"If you didn't like something the first time, the cud won't be any good either." --Elsie the Cow, Ruminations

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_Clare_
BRONZE Member since Oct 2002

_Clare_

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Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland (UK)

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Posted:And the pope (nearly)...

Finally the man can be left in peace.


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ado-p
GOLD Member since May 2004

ado-p

Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland

Total posts: 3882
Posted:monday morning blues. stifling cold

*sniffle*

*drip*

good weekend though.

eat any Curry Wurst yet?


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_Clare_
BRONZE Member since Oct 2002

_Clare_

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Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland (UK)

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Posted:Hmpf.



And what, pray tell, does this have to do with the news?



Mr Phelan, that you have the cold is not really newsworthy tongue





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ado-p
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ado-p

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Total posts: 3882
Posted:ubblol

wrong threab

sorby

:blurrysmiley:


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quiet


quiet

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Location: bristol

Total posts: 503
Posted:i was wondering - what would have happened had the pope ended up in a terri-schiavo-style situation? would they just have gone on and elected a new pope?

no, of course not. the vatican would rapidly have become overpopeulated . . .


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_Clare_
BRONZE Member since Oct 2002

_Clare_

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Posted:I don't think we would have ever found out if that had been the case.

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Xopher (aka Mr. Clean)


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Posted:Well, he carefully avoided that by refusing to go back to the hospital, and by sitting by an open window in the cold and damp for a while, against the strong advice of his doctors. Unlike Schiavo, he was in a position to make sure he died completely, instead of only partially.

"If you didn't like something the first time, the cud won't be any good either." --Elsie the Cow, Ruminations

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_Clare_
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Posted:smile

True.


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Pink...?
BRONZE Member since Apr 2002

Pink...?

Mistress of Pink...Multicoloured
Location: Over There, United Kingdom

Total posts: 6140
Posted:I thought this link was very interesting

Then and Now

Interesting to see the devastation of the war, and the way we have "overcome" it. Rebuilt, and survived.


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_Clare_
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_Clare_

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Posted:Wow. Thanks for digging this thread up again Pink, and thanks for the link.



I really need to start getting motivated to doing things again.... like posting on this thread smile



(Incidentally, I saw similar pictures when I visited the Reichstag recently... it is quite amazing the efforts to rebuild... right throughout the city)


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Pink...?
BRONZE Member since Apr 2002

Pink...?

Mistress of Pink...Multicoloured
Location: Over There, United Kingdom

Total posts: 6140
Posted:Old Laws

I found this so funny! ubblol

I especially like the law that "which requires Royal Navy ships which enter the Port of London to provide a barrel of rum to the Constable of the Tower of London"

and

"it is illegal to enter the Houses of Parliament in a suit of armour" smile


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Fine_Rabid_Dog


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Location: They seek him here, they seek ...

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Posted:I nearly got busted in class as i laughed out loud at this one "It is still illegal for cabbies to carry rabid dogs or corpses and by law they must ask all passengers if they have small pox or the plague. " ubblol

The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."

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SILVER Member since Jan 2005

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Pooh-Bah
Location: Bristol, United Kingdom

Total posts: 1785
Posted:America has some funny ones too
These are real standing laws from around the United States of America. Hope you enjoy them and remember, Law Enforcement is no joke!

Alabama:
1. It is illegal for a driver to be blindfolded while operating a vehicle.

California:
1. Community leaders passed an ordinance that makes it illegal for anyone to try and stop a child from playfully jumping over puddles of water.

Connecticut:
1. You are not allowed to walk across a street on your hands.

Florida:
1. Women may be fined for falling asleep under a hair dryer, as can the salon owner.
2. A special law prohibits unmarried women from parachuting on Sunday or she shall risk arrest, fine, and/or jailing.
3. If an elephant is left tied to a parking meter, the parking fee has to be paid just as it would for a vehicle.
4. [SARASOTA] It is illegal to sing in a public place while attired in a swimsuit.
5. Men may not be seen publicly in any kind of strapless gown. biggrin

Illinois:
1. It is illegal for anyone to give lighted cigars to dogs, cats, and other domesticated animal kept as pets.

Indiana:
1. Bathing is prohibited during the winter.
2. Citizens are not allowed to attend a movie house or theater nor ride in a public streetcar within at least four hours after eating garlic.

Iowa:
1. Kisses may last for as much as, but no more than, five minutes.

Kentucky:
1. By law, anyone who has been drinking is "sober" until he or she "cannot hold onto the ground."
2. It is illegal to transport an ice cream cone in your pocket.

Louisiana:
1. It is illegal to rob a bank and then shoot at the bank teller with a water pistol.
2. Biting someone with your natural teeth is "simple assault," while biting someone with your false teeth is "aggravated assault."

Massachusetts:
1. Mourners at a wake may not eat more than three sandwiches.
2. Snoring is prohibited unless all bedroom windows are closed and securely locked.
3. An old ordinance declares goatees illegal unless you first pay a special license fee for the privilege of wearing one in public.


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Pink...?
BRONZE Member since Apr 2002

Pink...?

Mistress of Pink...Multicoloured
Location: Over There, United Kingdom

Total posts: 6140
Posted:The Lake that Vanished Overnight!

Never pick up a duck in a dungeon...

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Stone
GOLD Member since Jun 2001

Stream Entrant
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Total posts: 2830
Posted:Thought this story from the Herald Sun newspaper in Australia was pretty funny.



Victorian Police sniffer dogs may not be able to recognise cocaine, but they are experts in hunting down babies. In an embarrassing error, the force's seven drug sniffer dogs have been trained to detect talcum powder instead of the drug for the past three years



Apparently someone swapped the coke for talc, and the sniffer dogs learnt how to sniff out talc instead of cocaine ubblol


If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh

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Sym
BRONZE Member since Sep 2004

Sym

Geek-enviro-hippy priest
Location: Diss, Norfolk, United Kingdom

Total posts: 1858
Posted:I hope this is a good place to post this:

Two hurt in mock light sabre duel

Two people filled glass tubes with petrol and lit them to 'play jedi'

rolleyes


There's too many home fires burning and not enough trees

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