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Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:Here's a topic that I don't think I've seen discussed..

I've noticed that quite a few fire twirlers have all sorts of tricks for saving money on building poi. I don't know if its a pride thing of "Hey look I made this chain and strap out of stuff I found in the garbage" or a totally unnecessary thriftyness...

I don't mean to sound superficial or rich (because I don't think of myself as either) but I really don't see any reason for cutting corners on the fire poi itself. A NICE, STURDY set of fire poi, with cathedral wicks, ball chain, and leather straps can be made for around $20. Mine are coming up on their first birthday and they're still looking fine. In a hobby that costs about a buck a burn or more, you're easily spending a few hundred dollars a year on fuel. Why not spend the extra few dollars to make (or buy) a decent set of poi?

Important aside, I know that there are some people out there who $20 is a decent amount of money. This is certainly no judgement on them. I'm just referring to those that are showing up to burns with top notch cellphones and digital cameras who won't spend A BUCK for a decent set of quick links "because you can get keyrings for $0.17"..

Perhaps I'm just advocating shifting money from fuel (burn a few less times) to improving the safety of your equiptment (buy the dang ball chain)

-NYC, the capitalist pig

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Yes, let's go.
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master sodium
Location: carson city, nevada
Member Since: 13th Apr 2002
Total posts: 536
Posted:I totally agree. i've seen cheaply made poi come apart and become a fire hazard. it happened to me when a wick went flying, it had just gone out so I didn't see where it went until it lit up again after it landed.

you can't have a war against terrorism because war IS terrorism.it's not about worshipping fire. its about making the fire want to worship you.

Aurora (1/2 a firesister)
Location: Canada, Ontario, Toronto
Member Since: 4th Jan 2002
Total posts: 249
Posted:I bought my chains off of this site. I figure I work for ma money why not get myself a sweet ass pair (which they are indeed ).

But I made a promise to myself never to own a cellphone or a car (for reason's other then the money)...so I save money that way anyways..which means I have more money for mo toys and activities

Om Namah Sivaya

Location: the arms of the Ganja Goddess
Member Since: 17th May 2002
Total posts: 1551
Posted:Yis I agree with your view, but I myself have a cheap homemade set of chains. The reason is b/c my parents will not let me buy a set over the net from HoP,and there are no places in Canada to buy poi sets as of yet.

You. Its whats for dinner!

As time passes, you realise all the mistakes you amde and the ones you wish you never did make.

The wave crashing on the beach

Location: SW, England
Member Since: 8th Jun 2002
Total posts: 24
Posted:I bought mine purely because, as the inexperience spinner I was, I didn't want to make myself a dodgy set and have them fall apart on me, die out quickly, be weighted unevenly etc etc etc.

Maybe I'll make new wicks when my Kevlar dies, because by that time, I will be a poor student, living in London with pasta for every meal and reading 2nd hand books.

still can't believe it's not butter
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Member Since: 14th Nov 2001
Total posts: 6979
Posted:From an accounting perspective, Fyretoys can be seen as an investment that depreciates with every use. No set lasts forever.
That said, a crap set of poi is like a small bag of lollies: it's not long before you use it up and need a new bag.
a kickass set is the family sized lolly bag that even the cousins get to dig into.
The crap set will be cheaper per toy - but will necessitate more toys. Which is the better value?
Also, pride is an intangible asset that is often overlooked in poi accounting. Do you care about value if you adore your personally created masterpiece or lavish PureFlame set?
Poi? Personal hygeine? a Jedi craves not these things!

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the henna lady
Location: WNY, USA
Member Since: 15th Dec 2000
Total posts: 6193
Posted:I made my first set because I wanted to make them and know this was something I wanted to do for a long term before I invested in a more costly set, so to speak. In this respect, I understand the cost effeciency. HOWEVER, my lovely NYC, you know me and you know I did not make them cheaply. I still use my original chains (dog choke chains approved for over 200 lbs of pressure) and my handles which I sewed myself out of deerhide. The only thing I did not feel secure enough in making myself for the long term was the wicks, which I purchased from Adam Rice, which have held up magnificently over the year(s??).
They can be made to be just as safe as the purchased ones with time, care and forethought.

Unfortunately many aren't putting that effort into them and so I agree, the "randomly slapped together look what I did ghetto poi" should be condemned, especially in the scope of people who wear designer clothes to spin in! Yet, then again, lessons will be learned when one flies off and creates a nasty fire somewhere.

BTW, side note, enjoy your summer vacation NYC. And Congrats, you lived through another, and possibly the hardest year to be a teacher in the Big, Baked Apple!

Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK

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