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Login/Join to ParticipatePirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
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so i reckon this thread will hold a record of the new things and stuff im learning along the way, all input of any kind is welcome...
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*where was I? oh yeah here, The elbow, arm, arm elbow roll*
Its simple really, I cant do it.
I've seen some real nice clips of this move (Thankyou MCP/Glass) but I still seem to be missing somthing fundamental.
So I take the staff in my right hand, bring it accross my body under my extended left elbow and roll. extend left arm and let staff roll onto right arm. Bring staff back towards body on right arm
Now here is the problem, it just stops working there, I think i might be missing an extra beat/spin or something. Or it it could be the position of my wrist. Dont ask me what my wrist is doin, it goes all wonky in a natural reaction to the feeling of the staff falling off when i start bending my right arm on the way back in,
Any ideas?
If I can get this I'll move onto to trying to combine it with a shoulder rool and a turn to get it across my back and other shoulder.
I'm hoping to put up a clip soon, not of what i cant do but of what I can, after six months it's be cool to get some HOP feedback.
Love is the law.
enthusiast
227 posts
Location: dublin Ireland
Mcp, any change of getting a vid like slack one and slack 2 for doubles cause it was a great help to me when I was learning single staff contact
Grow old but never grow up
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
hmmmm, I've not been doing doubles long enough....
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
er... plus look here:
https://www.spherculism.com/poiple/module...gall&gid=27
mikes ones are mostly doubles... but tim does some hardcore contact...
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
enthusiast
227 posts
Location: dublin Ireland
Thank you
Grow old but never grow up
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
why was there no irish people at the bjc? What was that about? Well there was, but he wasn't one of you lot...
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
whats the bjc?
who was he?
Love is the law.
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
dunnoe, liam or ewan or somebody. Didn't know you lot. But is going to uberstaff... yay!
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Evan?
Was he into uber contact? He knows some of us. I missed him at the dublin juggling convention.
If its him. And i think it is.
Love is the law.
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
I dunnoe, I just saw him do some nice doubles. I think it was evan, he said he knew faberge... anything else I can't remember, I was spinning so much and just generally playing in the sun...
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
bwahaha
infintite ninja style infinite back of the neck spins.
colm from the circus showed me a tasty one handed behind the head contact thing
like the contact windmill that knoxious does but with one hand.. start the second half of an elbow wrist elbow. instead of going on to your elbow lift your hand behind your head and keep your hand bent back as much as possible. wait till you feel the stick roll a bit on your upside down hand and the turn your body 180. voila
Love is the law.
503 posts
Location: bristol
i think i've finally cracked the matrix
the bit which i was missing out was holding the staff sufficiently off-centre that you can continue to push it round an arm as you begin the move. it's possible to add loads of spin this way, since you're pushing against your arm as a fulcrum.
ture na sig
enthusiast
227 posts
Location: dublin Ireland
Im finally starting to get jesus's or jesi! not sure what the plural is. I managed 2 and a half last night before i fell on my ass. been tryin to get into a matrix from a neck pinch but its really tough, biggest problem is getting momentum into the staff. Any suggestions to help!
Grow old but never grow up
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
Im gettin way better Jesii (search for a thread on plurii dec, all will be revealed) since i started using the wrist elbow entry. Gets the stick right in the center f my back where i need it.
Same goes for a pivot (snes tuen 180). the staff goes into the right place right away on the neck so when you turn for a chest roll the stick stays nice and close to your neck where you need it.
colm reckons he can kiss the staff mis jesus.
Love is the law.
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,964 posts
Location: Southampton - Possibly..., United Kingdom
nice
anymore than one i have trouble with, halo jesus halo is my limit!
well that is until next weekend anyway
"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."
old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
ok, things i learnt, front halo's and front side poviots, a lil scary with fire i must say, but yes.
jesii im getting cleaner, and neck wrap to front side halo is something new i found as well
its good to staff :P
Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars
Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
poooo... All I ever practise anymore is poncy doubles moves and cheesy dancing with staff. I'd better get out tommorrow and practise proper staff contact...
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
oh the dancy stuff is fun as well!!!
got a gig soon, to help a friend out, with his music course, so i have to dance around lots.
some of the flow you can get, i hadnt relised, and things that are sooooo simple look damn cool with a tech :P
Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars
Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,964 posts
Location: Southampton - Possibly..., United Kingdom
why not proper double staff contact
"...We don't stop playing because we get old, we get old because we stop playing......."
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
can you expand on those tasty sounding moves lava?
how about front side halo (as opposed to a backside halo or [censored] halo) turn 180 to front side neck roll.
ooohh, cant wait to try that
Love is the law.
old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
tasty moves :P right so the front side halo i enter right shoulder, the same i way i would a normal halo.....but lean diffrently and it goes across the front :P the pivot thing, if its a piviot,....is just getting another spin, but that spin is usually on the front of the left shoulder, then it can be made to come back to a FSH (front side halo) and off down the right arm :P.
the neck thing to FSH goes on, on the left shoulder horotontal, wraps the neck, spins on the back, lean. and goes for FSH from the left shoulder
there are many ways to do that, but the one above is my fave so far :P Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars
Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
incedible
i've no idea what your talking about lava.
the first one. does it halo on your back as you pivot back to another FSH. as in. is it FSH to Jesus?
the second one. you cant halo in the H plane
well you can but i donthink you can call it a halo. or are you changing planes. can you break it down move by move? describe the path the stick travels on with out using all megs fancy names? coz im lost I dont know why
Love is the law.
old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
i dotn halo in the H plane, i switch it with a lil bit of nifty neck work!!!
i have a DV cam at the mo, maybe i should film them a lil :P
nope its all done on the front so you have to move your head out the way quite a lot
Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars
Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
yeah, T&B does loads of frontside halos to throat wraps. I think they be a good way to get rid of face-smacking fears...
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
oooooo i like this....my mum has just got a mirrior in the front room, a nice bit one, at perfect height, and since i normally practice in the front room (i know i shouldnt but still) this is cool i can see what is going on
Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars
Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
oh please do mister twilight.
is T&B coming to uberstaff?
and whats wrong with spherculism?
Love is the law.
old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
mmmm just tried those nice butterfly flowers..mmmmmm i cant wate till its dark now.
damn me not being at uberstaff :'(
this day is being good
i will go buy a tape later today then
Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars
Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
all quiet on the western front...
I was practising stupidly poncy things as you know:
Double staff hug figure of eights... (butterfly, cos parallel looks weird.) Just the same as the poieristas do it.
and more pendulum weaves! This time, parallel two beat weaves... hmmmmm pendulum...
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
any chance of being able to see pendular things any time soon?
mmmm just got (bout an hour ago) 5 beets out of foward dual fish,
a lil help needed...? any one?
righ ok, so going steve like, right hand, so it would wrap the frontside of you neck, but instead you duck and the staff goes on to the back, and down the other arm, i just cant make it clean yet, any ideas?
Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars
Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
2 bags and orbit got some video of them...
Oh! And at the bjc I learned reverse fishtail, to hair brush to halo roll to pose.
SWEET!
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
is that, flicking hair to the side type hair bursh?
Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars
Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
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