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*edit*
so i reckon this thread will hold a record of the new things and stuff im learning along the way, all input of any kind is welcome...
*edit*
*where was I? oh yeah here, The elbow, arm, arm elbow roll*
Its simple really, I cant do it.
I've seen some real nice clips of this move (Thankyou MCP/Glass) but I still seem to be missing somthing fundamental.
So I take the staff in my right hand, bring it accross my body under my extended left elbow and roll. extend left arm and let staff roll onto right arm. Bring staff back towards body on right arm
Now here is the problem, it just stops working there, I think i might be missing an extra beat/spin or something. Or it it could be the position of my wrist. Dont ask me what my wrist is doin, it goes all wonky in a natural reaction to the feeling of the staff falling off when i start bending my right arm on the way back in,
Any ideas?
If I can get this I'll move onto to trying to combine it with a shoulder rool and a turn to get it across my back and other shoulder.
I'm hoping to put up a clip soon, not of what i cant do but of what I can, after six months it's be cool to get some HOP feedback.
*edit*
so i reckon this thread will hold a record of the new things and stuff im learning along the way, all input of any kind is welcome...
*edit*
*where was I? oh yeah here, The elbow, arm, arm elbow roll*
Its simple really, I cant do it.
I've seen some real nice clips of this move (Thankyou MCP/Glass) but I still seem to be missing somthing fundamental.
So I take the staff in my right hand, bring it accross my body under my extended left elbow and roll. extend left arm and let staff roll onto right arm. Bring staff back towards body on right arm
Now here is the problem, it just stops working there, I think i might be missing an extra beat/spin or something. Or it it could be the position of my wrist. Dont ask me what my wrist is doin, it goes all wonky in a natural reaction to the feeling of the staff falling off when i start bending my right arm on the way back in,
Any ideas?
If I can get this I'll move onto to trying to combine it with a shoulder rool and a turn to get it across my back and other shoulder.
I'm hoping to put up a clip soon, not of what i cant do but of what I can, after six months it's be cool to get some HOP feedback.
Love is the law.
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We could always use the Irish Thread in events
Keep spinning strugz. I've managed to make myself quite dizzy with that one. I've just been entering it from a normal halo type entry though. Just pushing it into place from a reverse figure of eight. not at all fancy like yours. Will give it a shot.
I reckon you could trap it instead of halo'ing it too. the spin back in the other direction. Its one of those very ungracefull traps though.
Dunc!!!! Drop over anytime dude. Your always welcome. We could always have a uberstaff decpmpression, decompression party
We could always use the Irish Thread in events
Keep spinning strugz. I've managed to make myself quite dizzy with that one. I've just been entering it from a normal halo type entry though. Just pushing it into place from a reverse figure of eight. not at all fancy like yours. Will give it a shot.
I reckon you could trap it instead of halo'ing it too. the spin back in the other direction. Its one of those very ungracefull traps though.
Dunc!!!! Drop over anytime dude. Your always welcome. We could always have a uberstaff decpmpression, decompression party
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Posted:
MEANIE!!
Written by: strugz
tiz sad news Dunc - but you a bloody poier anyway
staffer wannabe!
MEANIE!!
Let's relight this forum 
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for Dunc
for strugz
you'll make it to Ãœberpoi though, won't you??
for Dunc for strugzyou'll make it to Ãœberpoi though, won't you??
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of course
of course
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i knew youd take it in the jest it was given...............
Tea stealer
i knew youd take it in the jest it was given...............
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You mean like shoulder carries? Where it just does a one beat on your shoulder? (Ie it wobbles up and down?) This is what I'm going to use to learn shoulder fishtails. Don't ask me why.
What I learnt today:
Jesus 3 turns. (once) which is: 1080 degrees.
Elbow pops, with less pain.
Really gotta practise those elbow fishtails now...
Otherway angels.
Damn, I learnt nothing... Hope it's sunny tommorrow....
You mean like shoulder carries? Where it just does a one beat on your shoulder? (Ie it wobbles up and down?) This is what I'm going to use to learn shoulder fishtails. Don't ask me why.
What I learnt today:
Jesus 3 turns. (once) which is: 1080 degrees.
Elbow pops, with less pain.
Really gotta practise those elbow fishtails now...
Otherway angels.
Damn, I learnt nothing... Hope it's sunny tommorrow....
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Is that the one Knox does on his vid?
Written by: strugz
leanrt new move last night - elbow wrist wrist elbow, push up into between neck and shoulder - from here you can pivot the same speed as the stick is turning, effectively the stick isnt spinning you are, when you stop it goes into a halo roll then back into elbow wrist wrist elbow
Is that the one Knox does on his vid?
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Dunc - its only coz im jelous of your poi
MCP - i think they are shoulder carries, yeh, getting shoulder fishtails youd have to twist ya body to some funky beat to pull them off 
Dentrassi - not sure, havnt seen that in ages, will have to go download it again to see...........
Now where can i download it from..........
Dunc - its only coz im jelous of your poi
MCP - i think they are shoulder carries, yeh, getting shoulder fishtails
youd have to twist ya body to some funky beat to pull them off Dentrassi - not sure, havnt seen that in ages, will have to go download it again to see...........
Now where can i download it from..........
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no idea. i seem to remember it was a pretty dodgy website though
no idea. i seem to remember it was a pretty dodgy website though
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youre telling me!
youre telling me!
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Stick swap in front. (1 beat outwards butterfly to 1 beat inwards)
Stick swap in back (Double halo from inwards butterfly)
Two very tasty direction chnges that can be in continiously.
Stick swap in front. (1 beat outwards butterfly to 1 beat inwards)
Stick swap in back (Double halo from inwards butterfly)
Two very tasty direction chnges that can be in continiously.
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stick swap in front - throwing one?
Halo from behind - is that with the under the arm (from back) entry?
Continuous................ ?
Ado - i know its early and i totaly understand the monday "my brain doesnt work yet feeling"
But some more info would be grand
stick swap in front - throwing one?
Halo from behind - is that with the under the arm (from back) entry?
Continuous................ ?
Ado - i know its early and i totaly understand the monday "my brain doesnt work yet feeling"
But some more info would be grand
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The sticks in front come across your body in towards you on the down swing of an outwards butterfly.
Keep going until the staffs touch each other and the push them accross each other into opposite hands. Its like the leg wrap or neck wrap things bender, josh and fluffy do but without the legs or the neck. Each stick goes into the opposite hand.
You should be in an inwards butter fly now.
The halo is a back roll.
Both sticks come over behind the head on the upswing of a reverse butterfly. Place each stick off center on your back with more stick on the hand side. Give em a push and leave go so each stick gos into the opposite hand.
You should be back in forwards butterfly now.
Its easier to do this a teeny bit out of plane. Hence starting in one beats.
Now no more questions. I havent finished my coffee yet.
The sticks in front come across your body in towards you on the down swing of an outwards butterfly.
Keep going until the staffs touch each other and the push them accross each other into opposite hands. Its like the leg wrap or neck wrap things bender, josh and fluffy do but without the legs or the neck. Each stick goes into the opposite hand.
You should be in an inwards butter fly now.
The halo is a back roll.
Both sticks come over behind the head on the upswing of a reverse butterfly. Place each stick off center on your back with more stick on the hand side. Give em a push and leave go so each stick gos into the opposite hand.
You should be back in forwards butterfly now.
Its easier to do this a teeny bit out of plane. Hence starting in one beats.
Now no more questions. I havent finished my coffee yet.
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Ok no more questions
Its all clear now anyways - i thought it was something harder for a sec, but no................. You tried alternate outwards butterfly, drop left into continuous turning halo (neck variant) the other sould stay spinning in your hand at your side following the turns.........
Tiz nice
Ok no more questions
Its all clear now anyways - i thought it was something harder for a sec, but no................. You tried alternate outwards butterfly, drop left into continuous turning halo (neck variant) the other sould stay spinning in your hand at your side following the turns.........
Tiz nice
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Its not that hard at all
I saw this done very nicely on saturday night.
Wheneer i try any with turning doubles contact i always end up just bashing sticks together.
Its not that hard at all
I saw this done very nicely on saturday night.
Wheneer i try any with turning doubles contact i always end up just bashing sticks together.
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planes man, planes
Know what you mean though, thats why i shorted my doubles from 155 to 140cm
Seemed to do the job, for now
planes man, planes
Know what you mean though, thats why i shorted my doubles from 155 to 140cm
Seemed to do the job, for now
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I laugh in the face of planes
I laugh in the face of planes
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mmmm ok, good night/ evening to all, ummm
just got somethign cool, found a way of getting fowards fishtails in to halo, with some thumb foolery and got a 3 full turns out of a jesus. wooo
mmmm ok, good night/ evening to all, ummm
just got somethign cool, found a way of getting fowards fishtails in to halo, with some thumb foolery and got a 3 full turns out of a jesus. wooo
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A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
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Cool
How?
Cool
How?
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oh i knew you would ask, have to explain,.....
ok, so you know how you go in to inverted fistails, and you come back through under your armand the staff ends swap side, so one end is coming back in to your head....well, just jiggle tha so that it goes in to a halo, much fun
oh i knew you would ask, have to explain,.....
ok, so you know how you go in to inverted fistails, and you come back through under your armand the staff ends swap side, so one end is coming back in to your head....well, just jiggle tha so that it goes in to a halo, much fun
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A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
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Thats even better than mo-sephs
Written by: Lavatwilight
....well, just jiggle tha so that it goes in to a halo, much fun
Thats even better than mo-sephs
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Then just do the same thing with two sticks, isolating them
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a few days ago I found out you could do horizontal angel rolls. So then I decided angel rolls are just like steves, only then go in a different direction of spin on your body. So trying to do an anti-spin angel roll, (out of forwards fishtail) is just some kind of steve variant.
In five years time, i may be able to back this up with theory.
a few days ago I found out you could do horizontal angel rolls. So then I decided angel rolls are just like steves, only then go in a different direction of spin on your body. So trying to do an anti-spin angel roll, (out of forwards fishtail) is just some kind of steve variant.
In five years time, i may be able to back this up with theory.
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ok sorry ado...better explination, lift the arm up, so the staff is falling towards the shoulder, and thenmove the arm out of the way, and turn in to it a lil.
on another note, i had my first ever public performance tis evening, all of 7 mins some thing, on stage with ifrit, doing staff whilst he did poi, to a firends music tech, drum and bass things he had made up, went quite well, altho i dont like being on stage, with lots of people watching.
ok sorry ado...better explination, lift the arm up, so the staff is falling towards the shoulder, and thenmove the arm out of the way, and turn in to it a lil.
on another note, i had my first ever public performance tis evening, all of 7 mins some thing, on stage with ifrit, doing staff whilst he did poi, to a firends music tech, drum and bass things he had made up, went quite well, altho i dont like being on stage, with lots of people watching.
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A) it does feel as good
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nice one lava, congrats
nice one lava, congrats
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Posted:
btb staff swapping is a new one for me.
mamma sez i was spesh :eyes glaze over:
btb staff swapping is a new one for me.
mamma sez i was spesh :eyes glaze over:
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Posted:
almost solid: double staff steve shower.
did it three times: dual fishy turns! Hmmmmm....
I want sunshine, beautiful sunshine!
almost solid: double staff steve shower.
did it three times: dual fishy turns! Hmmmmm....
I want sunshine, beautiful sunshine!
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mmmm dual fishy turns. mmmmm.
got another one today. dual plane matrix: trow one, matrix t'other.(its a cheat lefthandself andre)
R
mmmm dual fishy turns. mmmmm.
got another one today. dual plane matrix: trow one, matrix t'other.(its a cheat lefthandself andre)
R
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Posted:
i think my contact is getting better coz im having alot more of those
'SH1T how did that happen moments'
lots of little uber hints are also clicking. shoulder rolls and elboa trap/carry contact things in particular.
you guys are up to some keraazeee stuff
rob
meg :duck:
bender
i think my contact is getting better coz im having alot more of those
'SH1T how did that happen moments'
lots of little uber hints are also clicking. shoulder rolls and elboa trap/carry contact things in particular.
you guys are up to some keraazeee stuff
rob
meg :duck:
bender
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what is a duck smiley?
what is a duck smiley?
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duck the spinning horizontal stick...
duck the spinning horizontal stick...
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