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Posted:*edit*

so i reckon this thread will hold a record of the new things and stuff im learning along the way, all input of any kind is welcome...

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*where was I? oh yeah here, The elbow, arm, arm elbow roll*



Its simple really, I cant do it.



I've seen some real nice clips of this move (Thankyou MCP/Glass) but I still seem to be missing somthing fundamental.



So I take the staff in my right hand, bring it accross my body under my extended left elbow and roll. extend left arm and let staff roll onto right arm. Bring staff back towards body on right arm



Now here is the problem, it just stops working there, I think i might be missing an extra beat/spin or something. Or it it could be the position of my wrist. Dont ask me what my wrist is doin, it goes all wonky in a natural reaction to the feeling of the staff falling off when i start bending my right arm on the way back in,



Any ideas?



If I can get this I'll move onto to trying to combine it with a shoulder rool and a turn to get it across my back and other shoulder.



I'm hoping to put up a clip soon, not of what i cant do but of what I can, after six months it's be cool to get some HOP feedback.


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PyroMonkey
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b...bal...lence?....
Location: Northern Beaches, Sydney
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Posted:throw n catch same hand

same direction, oops i mean opp directions tongue

like spinning in strugz avitar but with an extra half spin

im only throwing one at a time though, havent gotten that far

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Posted:but strugz is going in opposite directions confused

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Posted:mmm... doubles ubblove

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PyroMonkey
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Posted:yeah.... im going opposite directions, sorry im not the best at describing things

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Pirate Ninja
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Posted:dont worry

im pretty crap at understanding them smile

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PyroMonkey
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Posted:ahh just saw where i went wrong....
edit time!!


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Posted:Written by: ado-p

but strugz is going in opposite directions confused



its a problem im trying to deal with............. one day my brain will head in one direction only rolleyes

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Posted:I've got a lovely bunch of callouses! Bum ba bum ba, here they are a sitting on my hand... bum bum bum, big ones, small ones, some as big as you head!

Oh wrong thread, sorry.


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Posted:i just did the first half of the matrix woooooooo! bounce
i needed to say that cos no one near me would have a clue what it is or how hard it is


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Posted:Nice one max, now for the hardest part, which isnt the second half, its the mixing them togeater.

I can anti spin "as nate calles it" matrix, but still cant nail full normal one frown

my fave variant is steve down left arm, matrix, spin on stomack and lean some more to try and get it back to the neck biggrin


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Posted:i still mess it up most of the time but can do it 1 or 2 out of 10 times and the second part is easier i recon. i just lose it on my back in the first part. any advice on it not just flying off my back or just more practice

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Posted:just practice,
my mess up is always getting from the first part to the second part, and your right the second part is easyer biggrin

max sounds like you are learning damned fast!


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B) it does not look as good on film

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Posted:cool i'll practice some more (just been spinning in th rain)
yeah i've got quite far recently mainly from megs site and the fact that i had done lot's of staff before it was just that was only like 3 moves. so i already had a feel for it i just had to get my eye back in or in this case arm neck back and variouse other body parts although the other day it was the eye (ouch)


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Posted:woot
i just did the whole matrix it was done very badly but done never the less. now can i do it again
bounce bounce2 bounce bounce2 bounce bounce2 meditate bounce2 bounce bounce2 bounce bounce2 bounce


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Posted:ok, people learn wayyyyy to quickly these days !

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Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film

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Posted:i only managed after continuously practicing that one move for an hour today and i didn't do it that well

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Posted:still people learn tooo fast, slow down and dance :P

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Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film

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Posted:don't worry i still won't be as good as anyone on here for quite a while. also meditating helps me spin (seriously try it)
meditate
now i'm of to dance


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Posted:ah, but moving mediattion is dance, is stick is what you want :P biggrin

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Kyle Mclean-
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A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film

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Posted:Whooohoooo

Time to resurect this dusty old thing.

Stalls and lots more stall type things.

From the -fairly- standard staff stall where you have the staff horizontally accross the backs of both your hands and you lift one hand accross your body so your fingers are now pointing in.. and the staff is still balanced on the back of your hand.

I got these with a 180 turn now. 3 beat fishtail stylee. So your hand and the stick actually make a 360 in the wall plane. with the top half of the circle on the starting side and the bottom half on the finishing side of the 180 turn.

They also work very well with elbow traps. Say from a halo into an elbow trap... once its trap with can change the plane ane manoover the stick out into a stall... from trap you can flick the stick in the horizontal across your chest/belly into a elbow trap on the other side and do another stall. Mixed up with turns and posing this all looks lovely.

Also from the stall. Do a normal stall as described above. But turn a little to the side then cross the other hand behind your back and around the front to balance the other end of the staff. It doesnt really do anything but is nice ans posey too smile plenty of varations here.

And my fave. Stall the flick/swing the staff out and up so its making a circle on the horizontal plane. You have to lean right out becasue the long end of the stick has to pass around the inside... Do a kind of devilsticky thing with your arm here and then your into a steve... biggrin a fast, scary steve....

Any of that make sense? If not tell me... It might make me get off my ass long enought o make a video wink


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