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master sodium
Location: carson city, nevada
Member Since: 13th Apr 2002
Total posts: 536
Posted:ok so the other night I was spinning, and my friend commented on how much "better" I was then him. I made some comment about how I dont think anyone is better than anyone else, and what makes him say that I'm "better". his only response was "you do more moves then I do", and I think I said something like I'm only more practiced.

now this kinda got me to thinking. I had a point in life where I had alot of moves, but had absolutely no movement whatsoever. would this mean that I was better then these people I see who have less moves, but have alot more style? hell no! so what I'm getting at is what makes a person good, or better then someone else?

you can't have a war against terrorism because war IS terrorism.it's not about worshipping fire. its about making the fire want to worship you.

the man behind the curtain
Location: second star on the right and s...
Member Since: 10th May 2002
Total posts: 52
Posted:there are different levels of skills and some people are better then others but an exact mesure is impossible as as there are so many different directions that one can go, ie this person might be more fluid but have less moves, but this person might be stiff but master very complicated things. so i see it as whoever puts on a better show, puts on a better show, whoever has more moves has more moves.

may you travel far andlive in interesting times.unless you a bhuddist in which case i wish you nothing

Aurora (1/2 a firesister)
Location: Canada, Ontario, Toronto
Member Since: 4th Jan 2002
Total posts: 249
Posted:I think this is a question for the judges of the Col3 contest...but I will offer my opinion too.

I think body movement and originallity are the most important factors. I mean when you get to a certain level everyone can pretty much do all the moves...but your personal expression comes out in how you put the moves together and how you as a person contribute to the performance.

Haha...I dunno..I'm still working on learning the moves..but this is just what I observe from watching

Om Namah Sivaya

back from the dead...sort of
Location: 4341'N 7938'W
Member Since: 23rd Feb 2002
Total posts: 884
Posted:Personally I think syncronization, fluidity and innovation are the key. Say you can only do the f and b weave windmill and butterfly, you can still put together an amazing set as long as...
-you keep the poi in proper time (syncronization)
-you flow nicely from one move to the next (fluidity)
-you string the moves together in an interesting way (innovation)

I find that you can DO a move for a long time before you truly KNOW it. Once you KNOW it, once you have truly incorporated it into your repetoire, you will be able to do it flawlessly, which will allow you to feel how it could link into another move, and that will allow you to innovate.

When you can DO a move you have to remember to try it when you've spinning. When you KNOW it,
it'll just happen as you're stringing moves together. I'm certain I wrote about the difference between doing and knowing a move in another post somewhere.

Myself, I can DO quite a few tricks, but I always try to go too fast or I get overexcited and screw up. I won't consider myself good until I learn to slow down and put the moves together properly.

Mr Miyagi
Location: japan
Member Since: 27th May 2002
Total posts: 13
Posted:Nothing is either good nor bad, but thinking makes it so.

Wax on...Wax off.

Location: Southampton
Member Since: 2nd Dec 2001
Total posts: 382
Posted:Fluidity is everything, three simple moves can look incredible if they compliment each other in their execution and flow with the music.
It is good to have a wide range of moves but natural rythym is most important. This, I feel, comes about by entering into a spiritual realtionship with the fire, one of awe and respect.

By the way, Man behind the Curtain, what's with the buddhist comments? Can I have an explanation?

A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words...


Oolering Man
Location: Farnborough, Hampshire
Member Since: 12th Jan 2002
Total posts: 729
Posted:goodness (if that is the correct word ) just like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder


Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:So does that mean that there's some bizzaro world where everyone sucks at poi except for one guy who when they finally take the bandages off his eyes he gets to see how good he is but since it's a bizzaro world everyone, including himself, thinks he sucks...

Do dee doo doo, do dee doo doo, do dee doo doo.

Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]


HOP admin
Location: HOP
Member Since: 18th Nov 2003
Total posts: 984
Posted:We ran a poll once about this sort of question. Here are the restults

Poll Title: What do you rate highest in a performance?
Fluidity of Movement 32.7% (80 Votes)
Passion or Energy 22.1% (54 Votes)
Choreography 11.8% (29 Votes)
Rhythm of Movement 9.8% (24 Votes)
Variety 9.4% (23 Votes)
Difficulty of tricks 8.1% (20 Votes)
Amount of fire 2.8% (7 Votes)
Don't know 2.4% (6 Votes)

"May your balls always burn"


Tantamount to fatuity
Location: Down the road
Member Since: 30th Jul 2001
Total posts: 15965
Posted:No Spiral, goodness is in the hands of the just, the minds of the pure and the intentions of everyone.

"I'll carry this....It's harder to spill a hat" - Chellybean
"...like a rabbit caught in a lighthouse?" - Chellybean


Oolering Man
Location: Farnborough, Hampshire
Member Since: 12th Jan 2002
Total posts: 729
Posted:Ok then how about it being down to the paerception of the individual that is watching?