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I've been juggling clubs for a while.



but now I have left the confinds of London. And I'm of for a trip a round the world.



As im not in the greatness of the London juggling and spinning clubs. I thought that I would start this of to keep up with you lot.

And to keep you informed of what is out there in the big wide world.



So the latest moves that I am working on are.



1 Flats:

most of all im trying to do flat back cross.

But also 522 combos with one of the 2's caught under the leg

also box and 441's



2 stalls:

Im trying all type of stalls on different places, feet legs, shoulder and the chin.



do you have any more to add to this.

that I could be trying

When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"

there's a few anomolies there jon...

the numbers actually represent how long it is before that ball is thrown again - the throw heights are an analogy of this.

a 3 is thrown and has three beats to wait before it is thrown again.

therefore for any trick we can write the pattern repeatedly and follow the path of each individual ball.
if no balls need to be thrown at the same time (ignoring multiplexes at the moment), then the siteswap is juggleable.

example below picking each of the three balls in turn and seeing where they go in the pattern:

531531531...
5315315...
531531...

so as there are no balls landing in the same hand at the same time, we know 531531531531... is a valid siteswap.

we write siteswaps as the shortest repeatable sequence: so 531531531... becomes just '531'; the 3 ball cascade is just '3'.

multiplexes are written in square brackets (with no comma's) like this: 7121[75]1

you should ignore numbers with crosses as they are only used in sync siteswap which has different rules to async ('vanilla') siteswap.

you can start with your right hand or your left hand, as long as you alternate r-l-r-l-r-l-r-l... for the entire siteswap sequence.


like you said though jon, the best thing about them is they let you do what you like with hand position, catch type, catch position and so on, making siteswaps very versatile for creating interesting pattern variations.


what i have discovered recently is that you can play around with the heights of the throws, the heights of your catches and the dwell time (how long you hold onto a ball) to mess around with your siteswap patterns too.

its why the rhythm of 441 with the 1 btb is so different - throwing high 4's while having a much longer dwell time on the 1 ball makes the pattern fit perfectly and gives you the extra time you need to do the 1 in a difficult position.

i siteswap.

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

but i ain't no hippy

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"

When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"

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and a positive advert for blonde dreads can be found here:


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see - you love them now don't ya

but i think if i got them i'd have to quit my job, learn to surf and smoke more weed (if that's possible)...

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"

if i had her phone number, it would be yours my man

i know she's american if that helps at all?
you can tell cos her megadrive says 'genesis' on it.

and its observations like that that prevent me from looking cool in front of girls...

good job i already found me a goddess that doesn't care that i'm a geek

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"

i think soon my goddess will hate that im a geek, im going to be working till 7pm every night for the forseeable future to sort out work

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Written by: �ber seal

so what about me.

what am I to do?



either track down blonde dreadlock girl in the above picture (i'd highly recommend you do that in fact - she has lots of cool consoles and she isn't very ugly either) or find yourself a different gurl that doesn't mind you're a smelly, juggling hippy?

and mech - that's not a geeky, that's being a work-a-holic.

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"

no, he's the �ber seal

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

Holistic Spinner (I hope)

Burner of Toast
Spinner of poi
Slacker of enormous magnitude

When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"

ah wah wah wah a wah wah

ahh, its okay to post pictures of sexy, blonde dreadlocked, geek tease girls in this thread but as soon as the conversation gets all hot and accented, we have to stop?

fair enough

martin - (6x,4)(4,2x) should be a doddle for you - do you juggle it different to how you do your (6x,4)(0,2x)?

will - sorry i missed brizzle
i saw some pictures of you last night and you were dressed very much like a clown - i chose to ignore them
did yoo see my new pictures in my gallery here...?
441 in wallplane is sick - norbi's website is great for ring tricks - either him or michael karas (can't remember which) has a video of a wicked 441 variation with arms through a ring.

i've just started working on head rolls and chin balances with clubs and balls.
still can't do 744 or 64 solidly out of 5 yet - must get house with higher ceiling...

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

Hello there munkees

I started doing 441 with clubs with the 4's in wallplane.
But it was very hard, so I started learning inverse cascade in the wallplane.
Which helped.

I also been learning tomahawk cascade with clubs. Which is reeally nice.

I have dreadlocks. And so does my bird.
But she has no consoles.
But Weasel is gonna bring his N64 to our house. If Adam lets him. He says they aint no good.


Recently I caught 531 with clubs all behind me back. Been practicing doing the 31 as backcross and a pass, that was good, then threw a really high backcross and did the 31 backcross pass business. I was chuffed.

I havn't juggled clubs for days 'cos I had to move house and start Uni and generally not be a dosser, which sucked.

But I have been learning snakes and arm rolls and isolations and the like, 'cos there are billions of these acrylic balls rolling round my house now.

Which was nice

Some things you have to see to believe, but
Some things you have to believe in to see.

Holistic Spinner (I hope)