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Posted:I've been juggling clubs for a while.
but now I have left the confinds of London. And I'm of for a trip a round the world.
As im not in the greatness of the London juggling and spinning clubs. I thought that I would start this of to keep up with you lot.
And to keep you informed of what is out there in the big wide world.
So the latest moves that I am working on are.
1 Flats:
most of all im trying to do flat back cross.
But also 522 combos with one of the 2's caught under the leg
also box and 441's
2 stalls:
Im trying all type of stalls on different places, feet legs, shoulder and the chin.
do you have any more to add to this.
that I could be trying
but now I have left the confinds of London. And I'm of for a trip a round the world.
As im not in the greatness of the London juggling and spinning clubs. I thought that I would start this of to keep up with you lot.
And to keep you informed of what is out there in the big wide world.
So the latest moves that I am working on are.
1 Flats:
most of all im trying to do flat back cross.
But also 522 combos with one of the 2's caught under the leg
also box and 441's
2 stalls:
Im trying all type of stalls on different places, feet legs, shoulder and the chin.
do you have any more to add to this.
that I could be trying
When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"
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Posted:funny enough, i do remember that video 
go here, download thomas1.mpg, watch it, learn it all, come home, gimme a hug.
go here, download thomas1.mpg, watch it, learn it all, come home, gimme a hug.
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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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Posted:cole, shut it you, or ill be forced ti hurt you in an evil way of my chosing! 
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Posted:thanks cole.
you think I can get that all befor I get back.
(ber thinks a while) oh I'm going to be at the ejc for over a week of
so I'll see you soon then.
and get it all by then hehehe
you think I can get that all befor I get back.
(ber thinks a while) oh I'm going to be at the ejc for over a week of
so I'll see you soon then.
and get it all by then hehehe
When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"
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Posted:Written by: coleman
funny enough, i do remember that video
go here, download thomas1.mpg, watch it, learn it all, come home, gimme a hug.
my god.
I'm going to become gay, and try to marry sir Dietz.
or become a kidnapper and hold him till I can learn all his tricks.
have spent the last 2 hours down loading and watching his vids.
juggle porn or what.
I'm of to
and after that I will be doing
with some of this throwen in
funny enough, i do remember that video
go here, download thomas1.mpg, watch it, learn it all, come home, gimme a hug.
my god.
I'm going to become gay, and try to marry sir Dietz.
or become a kidnapper and hold him till I can learn all his tricks.
have spent the last 2 hours down loading and watching his vids.
juggle porn or what.
I'm of to
and after that I will be doing
with some of this throwen in
When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"
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Posted:yeah, thanks for the offer mech, but i should be ok for ball juggling info from my mate.
grrr. 4 balls feeling so cool, but i consistently get to 8 catches before everything goes pear shaped. i think my natural instinct to throw the ball to other hand kicks in and it all goes to sh*t.
i think the best thing about balls is that my hands arnt sore from club abuse. theres that one point on my left hand, 1.5cm down on the palm from my index finger, which my club always hits causing much pain and hilarity.
will ball juggling, the only thing suffering is my thesis, which when i think about it is due in 3 days, and so i really shouldnt be on here telling you all about it.
bye for now
grrr. 4 balls feeling so cool, but i consistently get to 8 catches before everything goes pear shaped. i think my natural instinct to throw the ball to other hand kicks in and it all goes to sh*t.
i think the best thing about balls is that my hands arnt sore from club abuse. theres that one point on my left hand, 1.5cm down on the palm from my index finger, which my club always hits causing much pain and hilarity.
will ball juggling, the only thing suffering is my thesis, which when i think about it is due in 3 days, and so i really shouldnt be on here telling you all about it.
bye for now
"Here kitty kitty...." - Schroedinger.
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Posted:Written by: Dentrassi
i think the best thing about balls is that my hands arnt sore from club abuse.
I'll go with that, cant believe how much they hurt, even with padded handles... especially when they land on your head
i think the best thing about balls is that my hands arnt sore from club abuse.
I'll go with that, cant believe how much they hurt, even with padded handles... especially when they land on your head
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Posted:yeah i agree - clubs are evil 
eyes take the worst punishment in my experience - all of my closest juggling friends have had at least one "oooh, that could have been *really* nasty" type eye injury.
i used to bruise my hand there all the time too den - in fact i've hardly club juggled since the british convention because of exactly that injury (whose idea was it to try to throw bloody quints to the ceiling of the big top?!).
and if your hands want to throw crossing balls, you could always start on the 4 ball patterns that help build up to 5:
552 and 55550.
martin - dietz just won gold in the ija individuals (i have no idea how - he's crap!).
you'll have to become a real groupie to get anywhere near him now...
in related news i managed to poke myself really hard in the temple with my thumb last night.
was nailing 55514 with the 1 behind the head and tried to pass my empty hand quickly through the side of my head.
which didn't work at all...
eyes take the worst punishment in my experience - all of my closest juggling friends have had at least one "oooh, that could have been *really* nasty" type eye injury.
i used to bruise my hand there all the time too den - in fact i've hardly club juggled since the british convention because of exactly that injury (whose idea was it to try to throw bloody quints to the ceiling of the big top?!).
and if your hands want to throw crossing balls, you could always start on the 4 ball patterns that help build up to 5:
552 and 55550.
martin - dietz just won gold in the ija individuals (i have no idea how - he's crap!).
you'll have to become a real groupie to get anywhere near him now...
in related news i managed to poke myself really hard in the temple with my thumb last night.
was nailing 55514 with the 1 behind the head and tried to pass my empty hand quickly through the side of my head.
which didn't work at all...
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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Posted:NICE TRICK 55514 always liked that one of my fave's
but with the 1 behind the head. that sounds better
ber runs of for one min.
comes back with smile and BIG
like that what does it look like from the other side.
hope to see you soon.
but with the 1 behind the head. that sounds better
ber runs of for one min.
comes back with smile and BIG
like that what does it look like from the other side.
hope to see you soon.
When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"
DeletePosted:building up..... consistently up to 16 catches of 4 ball...
im getting to the point where im am beginning to control my throws, and adjusting for my over enthusiastic left arm.
im really working on this 4 ball stuff to master that 4 ball mills mess whichi think looks really cool.
am also trying to get the hang of 1's. am trying to get a continuous 313 going, but my hands are being most uncooperative.
im getting to the point where im am beginning to control my throws, and adjusting for my over enthusiastic left arm.
im really working on this 4 ball stuff to master that 4 ball mills mess whichi think looks really cool.
am also trying to get the hang of 1's. am trying to get a continuous 313 going, but my hands are being most uncooperative.
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Posted:if you know site swap.
then you should know that 313 is not a trick that can be done.
you must be doing something else.
to work it out.
you add up all the numbers you throw, in this case 313 = 7.
you then divide that number by the amount of numbers you started with, in this case 3.
7 devided by 3
that gives you 2.3333333.
this number tells you how many balls you are throwing.
and you can't throw .3333333 of a ball.
so it is not a valid site swap.
that is not to say that you are not doing a trick like it. beacuse we are human, and we can cafugle numbers and throws.
but there might be other numbers you are throwing.
like 4x4x1
but x's are another story not for to day
then you should know that 313 is not a trick that can be done.
you must be doing something else.
to work it out.
you add up all the numbers you throw, in this case 313 = 7.
you then divide that number by the amount of numbers you started with, in this case 3.
7 devided by 3
that gives you 2.3333333.
this number tells you how many balls you are throwing.
and you can't throw .3333333 of a ball.
so it is not a valid site swap.
that is not to say that you are not doing a trick like it. beacuse we are human, and we can cafugle numbers and throws.
but there might be other numbers you are throwing.
like 4x4x1
but x's are another story not for to day
When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"
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Posted:I have a great game for you to play
When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"
DeletePosted:stupid me. got all confussd. what i meant, was throwing a ball in each hand up and catching it with the same hand - but doing this alternately, and throwing a 3rd ball between the two hands at the same time.
never mind - ill duck off and find the actual name.
never mind - ill duck off and find the actual name.
"Here kitty kitty...." - Schroedinger.
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Posted:does the ball you throw between hands change each time.
if so it might be 441.
or it could be the box, if you throw the 4 ball and the 1 ball at the same time.
if the 1 is the same each time.
if so it might be 441.
or it could be the box, if you throw the 4 ball and the 1 ball at the same time.
if the 1 is the same each time.
When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"
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Posted:Hey guys : )
If you do get some vid. footage from cole, Bring it to Aus and i'll watch it!
I need some new inspiration : )
If you do get some vid. footage from cole, Bring it to Aus and i'll watch it!
I need some new inspiration : )
What if I should fall right through the centre of the Earth and come out the other side where people walk upside-down?!
DeletePosted:what are you interested in eveish? i know a few juggling/circusy folk in sydney who i could probably steal some resources off.
where abouts in Oz are you?
where abouts in Oz are you?
"Here kitty kitty...." - Schroedinger.
DeletePosted:Dentrassi - I am in Canberra, so pretty close to Sydney. I generally juggle balls or fire clubs so any new stuff to master on those is fun. I would also like to try some stuff with rings though, but since everyone has different tricks and styles, I would love to meet any funky circus folk in sydney : )
What if I should fall right through the centre of the Earth and come out the other side where people walk upside-down?!
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Posted:Written by: ber seal
you must be doing something else.
like 4x4x1
but x's are another story not for to day
if you know site swap.
then you should know that 4x4x1 is not a trick that can be done.
sync siteswap must have brackets and no odd numbers.
the box in siteswap is:
(4,2x)(2x,4) or more simply: (4,2x)*
this weekend i have been mostly working on inverse 5551 into mills.
you must be doing something else.
like 4x4x1
but x's are another story not for to day
if you know site swap.
then you should know that 4x4x1 is not a trick that can be done.
sync siteswap must have brackets and no odd numbers.
the box in siteswap is:
(4,2x)(2x,4) or more simply: (4,2x)*
this weekend i have been mostly working on inverse 5551 into mills.
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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Posted:Written by: coleman
Written by: ber seal
you must be doing something else.
like 4x4x1
but x's are another story not for to day
if you know site swap.
then you should know that 4x4x1 is not a trick that can be done.
sync siteswap must have brackets and no odd numbers.
this weekend i have been mostly working on inverse 5551 into mills.
cole I love you to bits.
but as I sead you can always cafugle those numbers. and I did not do that right.
One day I will be god and then I can throw all this number stuff out.
And do what ever I want.
like 4x4x1.
but I will call it the cole cofuseinator.
Written by: ber seal
you must be doing something else.
like 4x4x1
but x's are another story not for to day
if you know site swap.
then you should know that 4x4x1 is not a trick that can be done.
sync siteswap must have brackets and no odd numbers.
this weekend i have been mostly working on inverse 5551 into mills.
cole I love you to bits.
but as I sead you can always cafugle those numbers. and I did not do that right.
One day I will be god and then I can throw all this number stuff out.
And do what ever I want.
like 4x4x1.
but I will call it the cole cofuseinator.
When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"
DeletePosted:brain ache, and cole can you explin juggling nuber to me tomorrow pls
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Posted:uber sorry for the hi-jacks again but this is the first proper juggling thread we've had for ages!
cole, i've just followed a few of your no's move links for the first time only to discover that i've been trying half these patterns without knowing their no's translations. for example 55550 is just 4 balls in a 5 ball pattern isn't it? i think i can see how all the no's work now. a 0 is a no throw in't it? as for skills i'm getting ever closer in my quest for 5 at the moment + can do an inconsistent 4-ball tennis now. we should have a juggle at spitz tomorrow if you're gonna be there...
cole, i've just followed a few of your no's move links for the first time only to discover that i've been trying half these patterns without knowing their no's translations. for example 55550 is just 4 balls in a 5 ball pattern isn't it? i think i can see how all the no's work now. a 0 is a no throw in't it? as for skills i'm getting ever closer in my quest for 5 at the moment + can do an inconsistent 4-ball tennis now. we should have a juggle at spitz tomorrow if you're gonna be there...
It is our fantasies that make us real. Without our fantasies we're just a blank monkey' - Terry Pratchett
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Posted: martin
mech - no probs, but only if you try and read this first
sorry for not replying to your email - been super busy here friday and today.
if i don't get a chance this afternoon, i'll just speak to ya tomorrow
dub - i should be at spitz so i'll see you there
martin mech - no probs, but only if you try and read this first
sorry for not replying to your email - been super busy here friday and today.
if i don't get a chance this afternoon, i'll just speak to ya tomorrow
dub - i should be at spitz so i'll see you there
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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Posted:siteswap is supposed to hurt!
if it were easy to understand, everyone would laugh when someone explains how the inverse cascade is actually the box.
but i know from experience they don't.
quite the opposite in fact...
back to work
if it were easy to understand, everyone would laugh when someone explains how the inverse cascade is actually the box.
but i know from experience they don't.
quite the opposite in fact...
back to work
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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Posted:the only siteswap that hurts is that dam 11 that hits me on the head.
and cool about the hijack. us jugglers need this place I think.
so feel free
love you all lots.
and cool about the hijack. us jugglers need this place I think.
so feel free
love you all lots.
When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"
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Posted:i don't understand how an inverse 5 ball cascade works.
i've looked at simulators, i've watched people doing it, i've even run a tape of me juggling a cascade backwards.
i've juggled inverse 3b snakes, constant 3b inverse flashes, all nice and tight.
but put 5 balls in my hands and i can't inverse flash them neatly to save my life.
martin, give me your hands and your brain now please.
i've looked at simulators, i've watched people doing it, i've even run a tape of me juggling a cascade backwards.
i've juggled inverse 3b snakes, constant 3b inverse flashes, all nice and tight.
but put 5 balls in my hands and i can't inverse flash them neatly to save my life.
martin, give me your hands and your brain now please.
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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Posted:cole,
carm down, take a brake, and smoke one for me, please.
now what you need to do is to try throwing them higher, at first atleast.
nice and slow? take your time. and think onday you'll be as good as me. hehehe
also you know what would help you no end is to come to carvin, where I am, just for a week. starting on sunday. I think that there are a few people here that can help you.
carm down, take a brake, and smoke one for me, please.
now what you need to do is to try throwing them higher, at first atleast.
nice and slow? take your time. and think onday you'll be as good as me. hehehe
also you know what would help you no end is to come to carvin, where I am, just for a week. starting on sunday. I think that there are a few people here that can help you.
When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"
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Posted:oh no help me.
I,m in carvin at the moment. and I am already getting in to the siteswap thing. and the convention has not started.
53453463363373337333
Is the combo im doing at the mo.
and there will be more on the way
also going for 744744.
with the aim of getting 9444494444, by the end of the convention.
god knows what else I'll have by the end.
martin runs of for a chat with the almighty one.
I think you guys might need some pratice. if what I have been told is true. hehehe
I,m in carvin at the moment. and I am already getting in to the siteswap thing. and the convention has not started.
53453463363373337333
Is the combo im doing at the mo.
and there will be more on the way
also going for 744744.
with the aim of getting 9444494444, by the end of the convention.
god knows what else I'll have by the end.
martin runs of for a chat with the almighty one.
I think you guys might need some pratice. if what I have been told is true. hehehe
When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"
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Posted:you're there already? that's badf*ckinass
as is that combo.
instead of help i offer encouragement...
rob got me into linking up 4b siteswaps
the best combo i've done is (4)53453474414747123(4).
a big long number, but fairly easy compared to your one.
it has a left handed 7 in it which i don't like and can't really do with any consistency yet but cunningly the 441 underneath it is easy to sketch on timing to compensate
have you tried having a 4b session with 534 as your base pattern?
i did it for about an hour and it completely did my head in - but just that one session taught me loads - and when i'm juggling a fountain now, i can stick a 534 in before or after quite a few of my tricks.
still did my head in though
744744 is hardcore, 9444494444 is getting on to unbelieveable and b444444b444444 is reserved for people with surnames like beever or bone.
or dietz.
and here i am - i still can't juggle a bloody inverse cascade!
i've been resting my right hand since wednesday (tendonitis twinges
) which means left handed juggling all the way.
mainly sorting out 3 in 1 hand as its pretty solid in my right already and if my left catches up, i should be well on the way to 6b happiness.
just for the extra challenge i've been having a go at sticking in one round of 804060 every now and then (though i don't think i'm quite ready for that really - only caught it once in 2 days!).
this place is cool by the way.
this weekend, the plan is for lots of dizzyness - 2up pirouettes from 2 in 1 hand and 3 in 1 hand.
but you're so right - i do need more practice...
so why the f*ck am i not in carvin?!!???!
nyc hit the nail on the head - i suck.
as is that combo.
instead of help i offer encouragement...
rob got me into linking up 4b siteswaps
the best combo i've done is (4)53453474414747123(4).
a big long number, but fairly easy compared to your one.
it has a left handed 7 in it which i don't like and can't really do with any consistency yet but cunningly the 441 underneath it is easy to sketch on timing to compensate
have you tried having a 4b session with 534 as your base pattern?
i did it for about an hour and it completely did my head in - but just that one session taught me loads - and when i'm juggling a fountain now, i can stick a 534 in before or after quite a few of my tricks.
still did my head in though
744744 is hardcore, 9444494444 is getting on to unbelieveable and b444444b444444 is reserved for people with surnames like beever or bone.
or dietz.
and here i am - i still can't juggle a bloody inverse cascade!
i've been resting my right hand since wednesday (tendonitis twinges
) which means left handed juggling all the way.mainly sorting out 3 in 1 hand as its pretty solid in my right already and if my left catches up, i should be well on the way to 6b happiness.
just for the extra challenge i've been having a go at sticking in one round of 804060 every now and then (though i don't think i'm quite ready for that really - only caught it once in 2 days!).
this place is cool by the way.
this weekend, the plan is for lots of dizzyness - 2up pirouettes from 2 in 1 hand and 3 in 1 hand.
but you're so right - i do need more practice...
so why the f*ck am i not in carvin?!!???!
nyc hit the nail on the head - i suck.
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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